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ptw

Homestead, FL

#8446 Aug 26, 2013
Well our family have been victims to this (civil servant/cop) organized scheming corruption for over 15yrs.

As you see, I've provided solid information, specific to the medical field from knowledgeable individuals with a combined 54 yrs of scientific / medical experience, that would politely and respectfully disagree with your assessment,(as you know I do; no offense intended). However, best of luck to you and your family in your direction.
MER123

La Porte, TX

#8447 Aug 26, 2013
I think the main reason that there is such a big push for suicide for many of us is that sooner rather than later technology will be available that can literally read memories and replay them as if our brain was a hard drive. That is when all GS victims will truly be able to expose what is happening to them.

We are likely to be murdered before that happens, however if we can simply remain alive long enough to have a semblence of sanity to be able to vocalize and connect with others about the experience and we are somewhat large in number, it will be un-ignorable once that technology is available.
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#8448 Aug 26, 2013
no1especial wrote:
<quoted text>
They want you to kill yourself though at the same time they will miss you so much to abuse. I'll pray God will do it for you instead. sorry.
In the know and mri123 have picked up on names I've used. They may not be real. Who the hell would spend so much time on an Internet website doing this? Perps are such boring people.

But taking my alternate names is an interesting thing to do from a sadists point of view.
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#8449 Aug 26, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
Cant imagine as a target that you wouldnt know what DEW is....
O. Directed energy weapons. Lol. Thanks for the explanation.
MER123

La Porte, TX

#8450 Aug 26, 2013
Also, to be fair (And not speaking from a stockholm syndrome perspective)

The original stalking was to "figure me out"

However, there were still many people "cluing me in" and tryng to help me. At the very beginnign it was working towards me instead of against me.

In the end though, having seen how many times I was egged on, and met with so many people that have an extremely negative perspective... It was designed to destroy as well.

Its not totally 100% evil for all people.
Many examples were placed on me to prevent it from getting to this point.

I am now at the point of where they are basically pushing for a suicide. Therefore, I do not have a "blue pill" to take anymore. So my main objective, as with other TI's in a similar boat is survival.

We are walking memory sticks that need sustenance to keep the data.
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#8451 Aug 26, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
Not allowed to talk about it? Explain.
I talked and now im being stalked. California has to appear tobe a perfect place. How can you live in what is advertised as an oasis if all your neighbors are military, lawyers and real estate agents?
MER123

La Porte, TX

#8452 Aug 26, 2013
Trying to figure out who is behind this seems futile to me personally I feel that it is and can be MANY different types of societies.

It is possible that that is probably the point as this seems to be so well designed that it is meant to be just mass confusion.(Such as the many different ages, races, etc.) This keeps people running in circles.

I think the main thing is simply finding each other first before and above all else, and spreading information about the fundamentals of the process.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8453 Aug 26, 2013
MER123 wrote:
RunGsersRun
Do you have a way to contact you?


I was thinking about that. Obviously I dont want to put anything on this site.
I'll come up with something.
I see you now have Dickenson as your location. Is that just a more accurate location?
I know a perp who lives there. Or at least someone who participated in my stalking.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8454 Aug 26, 2013
ptw wrote:
Well our family have been victims to this (civil servant/cop) organized scheming corruption for over 15yrs.
As you see, I've provided solid information, specific to the medical field from knowledgeable individuals with a combined 54 yrs of scientific / medical experience, that would politely and respectfully disagree with your assessment,(as you know I do; no offense intended). However, best of luck to you and your family in your direction.
I know two TIs personally who would beg to differ. And I've seen the damage that was done to them.
I came down with diabetes and I'm not really over weight and it doesnt run in my family. All of a sudden it pretty much disappeared after confronting the issue. The pain stopped(in that particular place anyway)and my blood sugar went back to almost normal all by it self.
THAT doesnt happen. And I have doctors to prove that.
To top it all off there are a multitude videos out there that show some of the symptoms and they match mine and the two others I know.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#8455 Aug 26, 2013
MER123 wrote:
Also, to be fair (And not speaking from a stockholm syndrome perspective)
The original stalking was to "figure me out"
However, there were still many people "cluing me in" and tryng to help me. At the very beginnign it was working towards me instead of against me.
In the end though, having seen how many times I was egged on, and met with so many people that have an extremely negative perspective... It was designed to destroy as well.
Its not totally 100% evil for all people.
Many examples were placed on me to prevent it from getting to this point.
I am now at the point of where they are basically pushing for a suicide. Therefore, I do not have a "blue pill" to take anymore. So my main objective, as with other TI's in a similar boat is survival.
We are walking memory sticks that need sustenance to keep the data.
Most T.I.'s end up homeless and or commit suicide.'Figuring you out' definitely happens. What does not concern them, they are all over and into like rabid dogs. They were in my friend's UtErUs and from the perp doctor to his likewise 'christian' friends put all of her business out there.

To me 100% evil= rapists, pedophiles, serial&/cold blooded killers. They seem to rule the world.

But get it straight, 99.99% of the time there was never a way out; the blind can't lead the blind. People who enjoy psychologically torturing others (even when they KNOW who you are and are NOT) can't help you because it is against their nature. And the blue pill is a bad idea. It's better to die in reality.
FightGangStalkin g

Pasadena, CA

#8456 Aug 26, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
Everyone
From what I've seen of MER123s,post I cant imagine how any of you could possibly have enough info to label him a perp.
And a lot of the things he said ring true for me, because I have experienced those exact same things. All of us have different perceptions on who is responsible....
Still waiting for your theory on who you think is responsible...

Ted Gunderson (who was a high-level official in the FBI) said the FBI was responsible - just like in the first version of Cointelpro. Do you have a different theory?
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8457 Aug 26, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
I know two TIs personally who would beg to differ. And I've seen the damage that was done to them.
I came down with diabetes and I'm not really over weight and it doesnt run in my family. All of a sudden it pretty much disappeared after confronting the issue. The pain stopped(in that particular place anyway)and my blood sugar went back to almost normal all by it self.
THAT doesnt happen. And I have doctors to prove that.
To top it all off there are a multitude videos out there that show some of the symptoms and they match mine and the two others I know.
So now your suggesting, somehow, someone in your "immediate" close location has set up equipment that can be specifically programmed to cause a variety of specific diseases?? Honestly, what does your intelligence tell you in the very least? Don't you think that that is impossible at any normal cognitive awareness level?

Knowing all the factors of the possible onset to diabetes, that is provided / advertised everywhere since it's a national concern, and that medicine is not an exact science since there are so many factors of overwhelming biological circumstances and conditions, why dismiss the all the logic and practicallity, to go right to the inventive (for lack of a better term, no offense)?

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#8459 Aug 27, 2013
If it isn't already too late:

I see gang stalkers as bonafide Demons who will rape you for your flaws and make up or distort anything negative about you to spread on a macro MACRO level.

My friend lives with one of the stalkers, a self-confessed bully... Try to guard your reputation as best as you can. One of the books a cell of the racket was using is 48 laws of power. If you can get your hands on it, even the e-book it might help. A lot of these 'christians' have it as their real bible.

Everyone has skeletons in their closets, that if it does not get perpetually PUBLISHED you can actually get to overcome; and move on with your life. BUT NOT WITH GANGSTALKING. Your reputation is so damaged that moving does not help as with my friend's case. When I heard confirmation I knew she really wasn't paranoid. The perps were telling her she was schizo..... and no suprise the 'doctor' said so too. But everyone knows she was followed the last time she tried to move because landladies and neighbours said people came by telling them the 'truth' about her. I am new to this, did not know her at the time either but it is spoken of regularly and laughed about too.

If you are gay, hopefully you live in a liberal area where your sexual preference won't be used against you. It doesn't matter if you have issues/low self-esteem/victim of rape, whatever, try not to be promiscuous either.

The rabid dogs love ANY and ALL kinds of information that can be used against you that in the wrongest of contexts will be disseminated.
in the know

Kunming, China

#8460 Aug 27, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're saying it's odd for a TI to state how many years he/she has been a target?
Thats the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And I dont believe I even need to explain why.
And yes I know about the masons and there use of numbers.
But you apply it to everyone. According to you if someone gives a date that happens to have one your numbers in it they're perps.
You do you realize it's impossible to exchange info without using numbers right?
No, I say likely. There's a big difference. Basically you can be totally innocent and use this.But the majority are counter intelligence for FREEMASONRY. So you claim to know FREEMASONRY and it's love of numerology. Then you should know the 7/7 bombing in the UK is simplified to 5.The Japanese nuclear power plant explosion was simplified 3/11 to 5. The 9/11 terrorist take simplifies to 11. The powerful control number in Freemasonry for the BUSH family SKULL and BONES group a sub-group inside FREEMASONRY. You can tell me about Jimmy Savile a member of FREEMASONRY who sexually molested 10,000's of kids and Hollie Greig, sexually molested by her FREEMASON father and 12 of his friends. They all got away with what they did with 'Insufficient evidence' And all the victims were labelled "Crazy" . So hmm interesting, people who stood up against FREEMASONRY were harassed by similar tactics as Gang Stalking. But wait it gets better! Freemasonry Practice a harassment program of their enemies and members who go out of line called "The white glove treatment" and "The silent dagger" Exactly like gang stalking.Wait a moment Scientology (a part of Freemasonry Pyramid and founded by a mason) also do "fair gaming". Look these up online they are all harassment control methods that are used by the pyramid FREEMASONRY groups. Apart from the sick fact FREEMASONS are paedophile helpers the logic is clear and precise. These methods the groups use all stem from FREEMASONRY. Anyone reading this,go and look up all these tactics they use, they arenearly identical to these tactics. The difference is that FREEMASONRY has put it's members in many governmental positions, thus they have now incorporated this method into the government telling police and other services to ignore these events and to refer the victim to a psychiatrist etc. So there you have it. Clear and precise logic as to who is behind Gang Stalking. OK, why? Simple they are mentally insane cult who are trying to get their NWO (New world order). For this they are attempting to remove the 1 in 20 who will be outspoken or fight them. The tactics are simple and very sound. They simple pretend the person is dangerous or undesirable, they try to have them committed as mentally ill or unstable. Thus they get controlled by the mental health industry or the judiciary. The whole idea is to have the person hit out in anger or turn to their doctor or police and say, people I don't know are harassing me. How? They cough statistically too high, or turn their car lights on. OK..... Now you sound crazy as you are trying to explain very subtle and excusable events. The only clear logic is the frequency of them. So they are statistically impossible in such numbers/occurrences. Other things, if you can record on camera, the impossible frequency, illegal entries, etc then you have some good evidence. Anyway, look it up, it truly is a mad elite group trying to have this done. Sad but unfortunately true.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#8461 Aug 27, 2013
RGSR wrote:

"Everyone

From what I've seen of MER123s,post I cant imagine how any of you could possibly have enough info to label him a perp."

***RGSR:

My impression of you over a period of time has been of a quite reasonable person who takes care of issues that arise on "his" own. I like that.

However, the impression that MER123 brings to this thread is one of acceptable "suicide/death" as a final "answer" to the on-going difficulties of dealing with OS/GS.

And, not in the least, "his" on-going diatribe of the worst-case-scenario for TIs, in general. Do you really think that's acceptable?

Backing up MER123 is the admitted perp, no1especial, who has nothing productive to add except for bible verses and this:

"Most T.I.'s end up homeless and or commit suicide."

"They want you to kill yourself though at the same time they will miss you so much to abuse. I'll pray God will do it for you instead. sorry."

wtf.

Do you really think it's wise to be inviting someone like this into your home? On the other hand.....(wink).

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#8462 Aug 27, 2013
no1especial wrote:

"If it isn't already too late"

***A perfect example of the kind of terror tactics involved in the dissemination of bullsh*t.

By the way, speaking to anyone except the above poster: It's NEVER too late.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8463 Aug 27, 2013
FightGangStalking wrote:
<quoted text>
Still waiting for your theory on who you think is responsible...
Ted Gunderson (who was a high-level official in the FBI) said the FBI was responsible - just like in the first version of Cointelpro. Do you have a different theory?
I would say it's pretty obvious the government is involved and they condone it. It would be highly unlikely with todays hyper intrusive government that they wouldnt be aware. And the vast amounts of money needed for prolonged surveilance and hightech equipment that isnt even on the public radar screams big gov.
The lack of connection as far as TIs go makes you think "test subject" which obviously points to big gov.

The part where it gets sketchy in my mind is that this is pretty much global. Leading you to groups such as the masons(who are firmly entrenched in governments around the world.
I've already mentioned the reasons I think they MAY not be the culprits,but it's obviously still open for debate.

It also points to globalist,and or,new world order types.
Which are thought to control the government.
That would explain the shady underside of stalking and the money needed to carry it out. Add that to the seeming connection with TIs and work place harassment and claims of former employers actually starting the harassment.

So all we really know for sure in my mind,is the government is involved. And we have a second layer yet to be fully explained.

Oh....The power was out yesterday so I couldnt respond to your post.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8464 Aug 27, 2013
ptw wrote:
I have two relatives through marriage that have lost their battles lasting years, to bone and brain cancers that developed into other cancers that ravaged their bodies. I have two relatives that are now fighting battles with different cancers throughout different areas of their bodies.
I have a close friend that I just learned, is engaged in their own personal battle with a very aggressive cancer. I am very familiar with two professionals for over 27 yrs., that are very knowledgeable of cancer down to the cell level, and if they couldn't answer many questions about cancer they'd know where to get a satisfactory answers.
If there were such a device (DEW's) of such power as many OS victims looking for a quick answer are misled to believe (which you know I don't believe because I've stated it repeatedly, and now you know why); I can confidently say that it would kill cancer not induce it,(just like all of these individuals I've identified, have either personally experience as patients through radiation and chemo-threapy [or of others knowledgeable and working in the field]).
I don't doubt you are a victim of OS, but all my knowledge, experience and associations suggest there is no DEW as you describe!! I can also tell you that all these individuals/families, having gone through this battle and lost, or are now going through this battle along with their support groups dealing with the same tragic disease, would be offended and short changed knowing the misery they've gone through at such a simplistic idea as DEW's!
FYI, medicine is not an exact science, and it's definitely not a novice field! It's a field of new hopes and "biological" discoveries every day. My suggestion is "leave it" to the professionals!
I'm going to point out the obvious here.....
We all know to many X-rays at the docs is a very bad thing.
We also know that radar is detrimental to your health.
And of course you have the common household microwave,for which they sell leak detectors...why? Because they are again,very bad for you.
I can show you some other things that can be easily weaponized but I believe I've made my point.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8465 Aug 27, 2013
in the know wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I say likely. There's a big difference. Basically you can be totally innocent and use this.But the majority are counter intelligence for FREEMASONRY. So you claim to know FREEMASONRY and it's love of numerology. Then you should know the 7/7 bombing in the UK is simplified to 5.The Japanese nuclear power plant explosion was simplified 3/11 to 5. The 9/11 terrorist take simplifies to 11. The powerful control number in Freemasonry for the BUSH family SKULL and BONES group a sub-group inside FREEMASONRY. You can tell me about Jimmy Savile a member of FREEMASONRY who sexually molested 10,000's of kids and Hollie Greig, sexually molested by her FREEMASON father and 12 of his friends. They all got away with what they did with 'Insufficient evidence' And all the victims were labelled "Crazy" . So hmm interesting, people who stood up against FREEMASONRY were harassed by similar tactics as Gang Stalking. But wait it gets better! Freemasonry Practice a harassment program of their enemies and members who go out of line called "The white glove treatment" and "The silent dagger" Exactly like gang stalking.Wait a moment Scientology (a part of Freemasonry Pyramid and founded by a mason) also do "fair gaming". Look these up online they are all harassment control methods that are used by the pyramid FREEMASONRY groups. Apart from the sick fact FREEMASONS are paedophile helpers the logic is clear and precise. These methods the groups use all stem from FREEMASONRY. Anyone reading this,go and look up all these tactics they use, they arenearly identical to these tactics. The difference is that FREEMASONRY has put it's members in many governmental positions, thus they have now incorporated this method into the government telling police and other services to ignore these events and to refer the victim to a psychiatrist etc. So there you have it. Clear and precise logic as to who is behind Gang Stalking. OK, why? Simple they are mentally insane cult who are trying to get their NWO (New world order). For this they are attempting to remove the 1 in 20 who will be outspoken or fight them. The tactics are simple and very sound. They simple pretend the person is dangerous or undesirable, they try to have them committed as mentally ill or unstable. Thus they get controlled by the mental health industry or the judiciary. The whole idea is to have the person hit out in anger or turn to their doctor or police and say, people I don't know are harassing me. How? They cough statistically too high, or turn their car lights on. OK..... Now you sound crazy as you are trying to explain very subtle and excusable events. The only clear logic is the frequency of them. So they are statistically impossible in such numbers/occurrences. Other things, if you can record on camera, the impossible frequency, illegal entries, etc then you have some good evidence. Anyway, look it up, it truly is a mad elite group trying to have this done. Sad but unfortunately true.
As I've said several times. I'm not ruling them out.
My biggest problem is you seem to use it indiscriminately.
You cant just go around calling everyone a perp because they put a date in a post or you'll get nowhere.

Not sure if you read it,but in a previous post I said I never call someone a perp unless I'm damn sure they are.
They will always give themselves away at some point,and you might learn something in the process.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8466 Aug 27, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
RGSR wrote:
"Everyone
From what I've seen of MER123s,post I cant imagine how any of you could possibly have enough info to label him a perp."
***RGSR:
My impression of you over a period of time has been of a quite reasonable person who takes care of issues that arise on "his" own. I like that.
However, the impression that MER123 brings to this thread is one of acceptable "suicide/death" as a final "answer" to the on-going difficulties of dealing with OS/GS.
And, not in the least, "his" on-going diatribe of the worst-case-scenario for TIs, in general. Do you really think that's acceptable?
Backing up MER123 is the admitted perp, no1especial, who has nothing productive to add except for bible verses and this:
"Most T.I.'s end up homeless and or commit suicide."
"They want you to kill yourself though at the same time they will miss you so much to abuse. I'll pray God will do it for you instead. sorry."
wtf.
Do you really think it's wise to be inviting someone like this into your home? On the other hand.....(wink).
I look at it like this. If you never reach out to people you'll never learn a thing. And for the sake of argument,lets say he is a perp.
What exactly can he do that isnt already being done? They come into your home when you leave anyway so what difference does it make?
We talk and he turns out to be a nice guy,I have a new bud who is immune to the bullshit they dish out.
If he's a perp I send him on his way.
I've met several TIs this way.

The one thing you have to remember...they dont want us getting together.

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