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FightGangStalkin g

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Edna wrote:
Coast to coast am will have a show with dr. John hall on Monday.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2013/08/26
I'll bet you a box of doughnuts that the program will NOT feature a discussion of the published articles about the re-emergence of the FBI's counterintelligence program, and FBI whistle-blower Ted Gunderson's claims about gang-stalking, and the recent job ad for counterintelligence role players discussed a few days ago on InfoWars.

But if you want to know about that stuff you can find analysis and links on FightGangStalking.com
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"Organized Stalking" is but one by-product of much larger "Oganized Scheming Corruption," by which all levels of enforcement are obviously operating above and outside the law; whether it's at the local, state or federal (national) level!

The "Absolute" by which all "Organized Stalking" is initiated, implemented and able to sustain itself is through "illegal and unwarranted" ongoing violations to everyone's (family/friends) personal and professional privacy (eavesdropping, mail tampering, refuse collection, illegal audio/video recordings, etc.), civil rights and liberties (financial, employment, medical, constitutional, legal, etc.)!

"Organized Stalking" is of course a nation wide crime; the mere scope, propensity and pre-occupation for engagement in violations, abuses, misconduct, excesses and ensuing victimization from corruption, solidifies inclusiveness to a databased network of local level civil servants (military required hiring) as of national entity/agency (NSA, CIA, DHS, FBI) civil servants.

This "Culture of Corruption" behind all "Organized Stalking" manifests in civil servant illegal, unwarranted and ongoing felony violations (privacy/civil/legal rights/liberties) of victims long before physical assaults appear; initiated from illicit targeted actions by "group informants" one indirectly or directly interact (military, community, civil servant, neighborhood watch, work, business, etc.) including "forums" (trolling email / IP addr. metadata [data mining])!
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The New York Times published the following article on August 21, 2013:

Secret Court Rebuked N.S.A. on Surveillance
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and SCOTT SHANE
Published: August 21, 2013

WASHINGTON ó A federal judge sharply rebuked the "National Security Agency" in 2011 for repeatedly misleading the court that oversees its surveillance on domestic soil, including a program that is collecting tens of thousands of domestic e-mails and other Internet communications of Americans each year, according to a secret ruling made public on Wednesday.

The "85-page ruling" by Judge John D. Bates, then serving as chief judge on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, involved an N.S.A. program "that systematically searches the contents of Americansí international Internet communications", without a warrant, in a hunt for discussions about foreigners who have been targeted for surveillance.

The Justice Department had told Judge Bates that N.S.A. officials had discovered that the program had also been gathering domestic messages for three years. Judge Bates found that the agency had violated the Constitution and declared the problems part of a pattern of misrepresentation by agency officials in submissions to the secret court.

(Read much more [250 million communications intercepted each year] at the following link:)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/2011-rul...
MER123

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Another way to tell if someone is not a real TI is their EXTREME takes on things.

(This is part of the slander process)

Anything being said by a perp that leans towards being extremely negative towards someone or something is used in the future to show other people or to label you as a hateful person.(I think)

Im putting this together from what im reading.

If you are not homeless yet, be very very wary of people that approach you and start talking shit on anyone or anything. This will be used against you in the future.

Slowly but surely, over the years this information will be used to slander you to people who are not yet "In on it"

This slander process is how eventually, you will have every form of social group working against you.

The "Vets" will go along anyways simply by knowing you are blacklisted. Which every form of social group has true "Perps" anyways. The true perps are the ones that will come to you with a negative view on something, then use this to show the other unaware people in the social group.

Normal....

However, the difference is with gangstalking you will have "True" perps from a certain social group come into your life somehow, and do something messed up to you. So eventually you actually might dislike a certain "type" of person, which after that you are approached by the real "perp" with the negative view.

slowly but surely, as your life starts to degrade you will be more susceptible to slander more and more.

(Personally for me, I don't have a choice on the matter sometimes)(Hard to explain)

The main thing, honestly is to get off on the right foot in the first place and KEEP it there no matter what happens. and be VERY careful about what you say to ANYONE.(Something I also don thave a choice on sometimes lol)

but, like from what I've read... sometimes you can be placed on these lists for particularly no reason.

From what I can remember at the moment, I've been a "target" since I was very very young, however it was originally intended to help me.
MER123

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If there was a way to "fight" this it would be by starting at the grass roots and warning people that are not TI's of the entire process. Or people that ARE TI's (Before they are at the point of homelessness)

Instead of trying to "write congress" or try to go to many dead ends on where this started, where it's coming from etc. That will be futile and will waste time.

The best way to go about it would be to just inform people of the VERY BASIC grass roots processs.

Eventually, that will spread enough of a word to where "writing congress" Wont be necessary, it will just be normal information and will lose its effectiveness.

Ironically, if this truly was meant for some "greater good" Machiavellian tactics wouldn't be used to "hunt people down" Its really just one form of extremism.

The difficult part, will honestly be getting people to CARE as this bleeds through EVERY sect of society. As I said earlier, people are taught social engineering skills very very young.(I was tested on since I was 14)

People will be more apt too listen if there is no "extreme" take on it, such as trying to point the finger at a government agency, etc etc.

Once enough people are informed of the grass roots process, and understand that the end goal is essentially to get someone to murder themselves it would be possible that by basic humanitarian beliefs and a general moral standard that it would lose its effectiveness.

This is a very very long term process. It starts by simply finding other true TI's.
MER123

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The other process the TI must go through is the "shaming".

This is designed to make you lose every form of pride and self worth.

How?

Well, if you are a true target, whenever you try to buy new clothes, get into a certain hobby, etc etc, the gangstalkers will make sure that someone is near you to make you feel insecure about yourself. if you listen to a certain type of music someone in your life, or someone that approaches you will make sure to talk crap about your music, clothing tastes, etc.

This eventually over the years breaks you down and makes you more susceptible to the slander process.

Once you are in the final stages of homelessness, all you can remember is being sneered at, and looked down upon, which leads you to believe that "Something is wrong with you" or you will actually start to feel GUILT for what seem to be NO reason.

This is extremely powerful and is something you must look at with an almost robotic perspective and focus on the main goal. Which is to simply find other TI's.
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The only thing that keeps me going is knowing the fact that this has been happening to me since I was 14 years old.

I was literally target practice for every "friend" that I ever had, including my very own intimate partners.

Due to the fact that I didn't have much of an identity, and had identity AND personality issues, instead of steering me in the right process I was instead egged on during those stages, to simply see where I would go with it and how effective they would be able to apply the slander, and various other techniques.

This is what leads me to believe that there are no moral or even righteous bounds to this. The fact that I was basically a human experiment.
MER123

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I have very sensitive information of the entire process for over a decade. Which is one of the reasons I believe the targeting for me is so very very extreme.

To be honest though, even though I never had a choice in the matter, if I could have I would have just taken the blue pill.

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MER123 wrote:
Another way to tell if someone is not a real TI is their EXTREME takes on things.
(This is part of the slander process)
Anything being said by a perp that leans towards being extremely negative towards someone or something is used in the future to show other people or to label you as a hateful person.(I think)
Im putting this together from what im reading.
If you are not homeless yet, be very very wary of people that approach you and start talking shit on anyone or anything. This will be used against you in the future.
Slowly but surely, over the years this information will be used to slander you to people who are not yet "In on it"
I have seen that with a t.i. I know. Truth that was said, good AND bad, yes.
Edna

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Interesting article on electronic harassment featuring John hall. They can out stuff in your shampoo. The implants make one guy taste metal and feel like he's being electrocuted. That's exactly what I felt when I was living in Santa Cruz. I think the metallic taste was poisoning from living on bad septic systems. the electronics is from something else because i had itbefore living in that area

http://www.forteantimes.com/features/fbi/5383...
MER123

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Personally, My opinion is that Focusing on DEW's and "Where this is coming from" is futile, it not like we're going to suddenly shut down sattellites, and if this creeps all the way up into the "government" as is being said it's not like we're going to suddenly get into office and/or convince someone that is in office to suddenly risk his own life for what is probably a handful of destitute people.

I feel that the main thing here is to simply find others like us.

The focus can also be on the social engineering behind it all.

However, nowadays especially it is something that is taught from childhood so fighting this "epidemic" which has probably been going on longer than we have been alive is a lifelong and possibly generational thing.

Unfortunately, most of us have been stripped of our ability to reproduce due to social murder and destitution.

I feel all the ganstalking websites clearly explain what can happen to a targeted individual but it never goes into prevention and training, which if becomes widespread information is the only way to marginalize the victims.

However, once again being that it is so huge, there are also people that have technical and internet skills (Such as anonymous, and various people in the computer field)

Meaning that any true website about it is probably not going to remain public for long.

It is not an entirely futile process I feel though.
We just need to find each other. It'll be a start.
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Looks like all perp spam here today

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brina

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Sabrina Taylor supposedly to be killed because of gang stalking related pedophilia and rape allowed because of entry by landlord's and homeless shelter staff who allowed these activities saying my facebook account of these crimes cost my kid her life and my life......the mind control was used against us in order to cause my kid to kill me or vice versa......scopamine was used on us and they tried to force my kid to commit suicide and tried to cause heart attack in myself maybe for insurance fraud. Maybe to just to cover up the pedophilia. The v2k perps claimed they ordered me to stab my kid and under their influence I was controlled by them. I didn't kill the kid,but the perps claimed they are able to cause this stuff. I think it is a lie in order to set me or the kid up for crime.

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MER123 wrote:

"Well, if you are a true target, whenever you try to buy new clothes, get into a certain hobby, etc etc, the gangstalkers will make sure that someone is near you to make you feel insecure about yourself. if you listen to a certain type of music someone in your life, or someone that approaches you will make sure to talk crap about your music, clothing tastes, etc.

This eventually over the years breaks you down and makes you more susceptible to the slander process."

***You've got it all figured out. Good for you.

Most "real" TIs don't spout off about their experiences the way you do. Nor, do they presume to always know what's going on. Just an FYI.

It seems you're inferring that TIs are pretty big "pussies", all around.

You really need to come up with something a little more creative than the scripted sh*t that's put in front of you.
MER123

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A Special Place In Hell wrote:
MER123 wrote:

***You've got it all figured out. Good for you.
Most "real" TIs don't spout off about their experiences the way you do. Nor, do they presume to always know what's going on. Just an FYI.
It seems you're inferring that TIs are pretty big "pussies", all around.
You really need to come up with something a little more creative than the scripted sh*t that's put in front of you.
A special place in hell is a prime example of perpdom.

See how every statement here is some sort of "trick question" or trap?

Basically, this is a way to get into some ridiculous argument running in circles about the matter, or to start arguing on semantics and drift beyond the point.

Either way, where gangstalking starts and boils down to is the very grass roots of social engineering and rumour mongering. Then comes the bad luck, etc etc. which makes you more susceptable to slander.

Writing a senator or trying to figure out where this came from will likely go nowhere. This is a true lifelong generational thing and it starts from the very grass roots of it all which is basic social engineering. I feel strongly that as a true TI our main goal is to survive, and to find others like us. it is only through spreading the grass roots process of it that it can be mitigated.

Not going in circles trying to explain that when this man uses this hand signal this person is going to be sent to harass etc. It was obviously designed to be excuseable in every way in terms of the legal system.

It has been said that 1 in every 12 people are involved in gangstalking, which makes sense. If that 1 person is trained from youth in this type of social engineering he/she can easily manipulate the other 11 into an opinion.

As i've said, ive been a target since very early adolescence, and was used as target practice. Knowing that the end result of this will likely be suicide.

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My friendís dream was to have her own family. Since the guys she chose in recent years ended up turning on her from the influence of the perps to then become perps themselves she happily resigned herself to her happy 'lonesome'. Being by yourself is better than being with a pestilence; even normal people know that.

Information was circulated on the block that an ex of hers would come visit her which it did; if it had been me I would have cock roach sprayed him. She then found out that if she were to even adopt a child that the child would also be stalked. Told explicitly so I was there and could not believe my ears. OMG. This is why I call them Demons.

This racket is about Profits and Demons and Sadism with no limit. Thankfully she is not selfish and weíve convinced her it is best after all because that is no way to raise a child. People don't have to like people, the bible says to love but it's obvious it must be hard to when you have something ratchet violating your nethers. But in heaven all will be hers.

To the gangstalkers visiting this page, you are multiplied cockroaches and your spawn will get Theirs even if You donít Now. spit! You will burn in hell.

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A special place in hell is a prime example of perpdom.
See how every statement here is some sort of "trick question" or trap?
Basically, this is a way to get into some ridiculous argument running in circles about the matter, or to start arguing on semantics and drift beyond the point.
Either way, where gangstalking starts and boils down to is the very grass roots of social engineering and rumour mongering. Then comes the bad luck, etc etc. which makes you more susceptable to slander.
Writing a senator or trying to figure out where this came from will likely go nowhere. This is a true lifelong generational thing and it starts from the very grass roots of it all which is basic social engineering. I feel strongly that as a true TI our main goal is to survive, and to find others like us. it is only through spreading the grass roots process of it that it can be mitigated.
Not going in circles trying to explain that when this man uses this hand signal this person is going to be sent to harass etc. It was obviously designed to be excuseable in every way in terms of the legal system.
It has been said that 1 in every 12 people are involved in gangstalking, which makes sense. If that 1 person is trained from youth in this type of social engineering he/she can easily manipulate the other 11 into an opinion.
As i've said, ive been a target since very early adolescence, and was used as target practice. Knowing that the end result of this will likely be suicide.
For a "guy" that just came on this thread crying about his "problems" as a TI and trying to delude others into thinking of you as some kind of "profound" leader.....

"As i've said, ive been a target since very early adolescence, and was used as target practice. Knowing that the end result of this will likely be suicide."

Excellent work!

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MER123 wrote:
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A special place in hell is a prime example of perpdom.
See how every statement here is some sort of "trick question" or trap?
Basically, this is a way to get into some ridiculous argument running in circles about the matter, or to start arguing on semantics and drift beyond the point.
Either way, where gangstalking starts and boils down to is the very grass roots of social engineering and rumour mongering. Then comes the bad luck, etc etc. which makes you more susceptable to slander.
Writing a senator or trying to figure out where this came from will likely go nowhere. This is a true lifelong generational thing and it starts from the very grass roots of it all which is basic social engineering. I feel strongly that as a true TI our main goal is to survive, and to find others like us. it is only through spreading the grass roots process of it that it can be mitigated.
Not going in circles trying to explain that when this man uses this hand signal this person is going to be sent to harass etc. It was obviously designed to be excuseable in every way in terms of the legal system.
It has been said that 1 in every 12 people are involved in gangstalking, which makes sense. If that 1 person is trained from youth in this type of social engineering he/she can easily manipulate the other 11 into an opinion.
As i've said, ive been a target since very early adolescence, and was used as target practice. Knowing that the end result of this will likely be suicide.
They want you to kill yourself though at the same time they will miss you so much to abuse. I'll pray God will do it for you instead. sorry.

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MER123:

"a)As huge and organized as this is, there is no real possible way that any site that is actually on the internet and is remaining there has any contacts to any real TI's.

b)Anonymous the hactivist group is also involved.

c)THat being said, i'm a bonafide TI and i'm posting on here... So it is possible."

Such as you'd enjoy all TIs to:

a)believe it
b)LOL
c)again, "pussies"
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"Organized Stalking" is all about "human behavior" albeit "corrupt human behavior!" "Organized (+cyber) Stalking" is "all" about a culture / industry / institution / organization of (entity, agency, police) corrupt, excessive, abusive and "illegal" organized scheming (civil servant violating) human behavior (inclusive to tampering, obstructing / covering it up).

And nobody is immune to being targeted; not even the families of these corrupt civil servants "behind" it !!

On Saturday 24 August 2013, "theguardian" published the following article by Adam Gabbatt;

NSA analysts [plural]'wilfully violated' surveillance systems, agency admits. NSA acknowledges that one analyst used agency tools to track former spouse but insists it has 'zero tolerance' for abuses.

The National Security Agency has admitted that some of its analysts [plural] deliberately abused its "surveillance" systems, with one analyst disciplined for using "NSA" resources to track a former spouse.

The agency said Friday it had found "very rare instances of wilful violations of NSA's authorities" as officials briefed reporters that various agents [plural] had used the NSA's controversial data monitoring capabilities to spy on love interest.

"The Wall Street Journal also said" anonymous officials had admitted that NSA analysts [plural] had abused their positions to monitor love interests. It said the practice is infrequent but "common enough to garner its own spycraft label: LOVEINT".

In its official statement, the NSA did not directly address the issue of data monitoring for amorous purposes. The agency admitted that abuses had taken place over the past decade but did not specify what the nature of those abuses were.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/24/...

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