Gang Stalking Debate Forum!

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#8167 Aug 4, 2013
Sorry, RGSR,

Looks like Seven may have latched onto this "insult".

***anything that makes me laugh out-loud these days gets a (small) point from me. Should've kept quiet.

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#8168 Aug 5, 2013
FBI RAN CHILD PORN SITE FOR TWO WEEKS

Last November, the FBI raided a bulletin board-style site that was known to be a home of child pornography. But rather than shutting it down, they decided to keep it running—and see just how many users they could identify.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Bureau agents posed as child porn dealers, actively distributing pornography while the site was under their control—just as other agencies perform sting operations with drugs and prostitution.

http://gizmodo.com/why-the-fbi-ran-a-child-po...

WHISTLEBLOWERS, JOURNALISTS AND DISSIDENTS, TOO?

"FBI uploads malicious code on the deep web sites while everyone is off at Defcon. Talk about paying dirty," commented VarthDaTor. Defcon is an annual event in the US for security experts and hackers.

"The situation is serious," said gmerni. "They got the owner of FH and now they're going after all of us. Half the onion sites were hosted on FH! Disable Javascript in your Tor browser for the sake of your own safety."

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/au...

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#8169 Aug 5, 2013
ACTIVISTS STAGE SECOND NATIONAL DAY OF PROTESTS

"The tide has turned against the National Security Agency's unconstitutional phone and internet monitoring," said Ben Doernberg from Restore the Fourth NYC. "The front page of Monday's New York Times stated that opposition to the NSA's activities has 'momentum that even critics say may be unstoppable,'"

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/04/...

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#8170 Aug 5, 2013
THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED

____Gil Scott-Heron

Mru486

San Francisco, CA

#8171 Aug 5, 2013
The FBI gives permission to criminal informants to break law. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...

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#8172 Aug 5, 2013
THE NSA COMES CLEAN (Comic Strip)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/05/1228...
Mru486

San Francisco, CA

#8173 Aug 5, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
FBI RAN CHILD PORN SITE FOR TWO WEEKS
Last November, the FBI raided a bulletin board-style site that was known to be a home of child pornography. But rather than shutting it down, they decided to keep it running—and see just how many users they could identify.
The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Bureau agents posed as child porn dealers, actively distributing pornography while the site was under their control—just as other agencies perform sting operations with drugs and prostitution.
http://gizmodo.com/why-the-fbi-ran-a-child-po...
WHISTLEBLOWERS, JOURNALISTS AND DISSIDENTS, TOO?
"FBI uploads malicious code on the deep web sites while everyone is off at Defcon. Talk about paying dirty," commented VarthDaTor. Defcon is an annual event in the US for security experts and hackers.
"The situation is serious," said gmerni. "They got the owner of FH and now they're going after all of us. Half the onion sites were hosted on FH! Disable Javascript in your Tor browser for the sake of your own safety."
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/au...
They can probably change the code to make targets look like perves. And they probably do that more often than arresting the real perves. The FBI probably has to cover up more than it helps.
Mru486

San Francisco, CA

#8174 Aug 5, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
THE NSA COMES CLEAN (Comic Strip)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/05/1228...
That's funny.
Mru486

San Francisco, CA

#8175 Aug 5, 2013
At the car mechanics again trying to fix all the stuff that has been destroyed by the perps. They dig through my trash to see what I've just eaten and then put it in theflds ins and under the carpeting. Police harassment is really intense. And news that the FBI is encouraging it, probably behind it because they are pushing me to suicide.

Since: Sep 12

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#8177 Aug 5, 2013
Mru486 wrote:
Police harassment is really intense. And news that the FBI is encouraging it, probably behind it because they are pushing me to suicide.
Stay strong; look to the future; keep helping to spread the word.:)
Mru486

San Francisco, CA

#8178 Aug 5, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
<quoted text>
Stay strong; look to the future; keep helping to spread the word.:)
Thanks for the good words. Spreading the word can get a person into deep doodoo.
FightGangStalkin g

Calabasas, CA

#8179 Aug 5, 2013
A comment posted in another forum - might be of interest. This was a reply to comments by "Eleanor White"

The point of gang stalking victims contacting the government and the media and others is not to get help – they probably won’t get any immediate help. The point is that if enough TIs repeatedly make such contacts (along with other tactics, such as mailing flyers) it will eventually expose gang stalking to the general public.

You frequently remind us of the alleged effectiveness of your strategies, but they obviously haven’t worked. It’s time for TIs to become more aggressive. The civil rights movement didn’t succeed by quietly speaking to a few people occassionally. It succeeded through a bold strategy of civil disobedience and public marches and taking risks.

When the first version of the FBI’s Cointelpro was exposed it was because activists broke into an FBI office and seized incriminating documents and released them, exposing the agency’s secret crimes – which helped lead to investigations by the U.S. Senate. The same kind of aggressiveness will be required to expose the current version of Cointelpro.

It seems more than a little suspicious that your advice – namely, to always take the least aggressive approach and never publicly challenge the perps or raise questions about the involvement of law enforcement personnel – is exactly the same advice that a perp would want TIs to follow. Is that just a coincidence?

Anyone who wants to see gang stalking continue without any problems for the perps would advocate what you’re suggesting: quietly endure the harassment.

You challenged me to cite evidence of the involvement of a particular government agency in organized stalking – but you haven’t yet even tried to explain away the claims of the late Ted Gunderson, the former FBI official who first exposed it as a government conspiracy.

In my opinion, a former head of the Los Angeles FBI office is more credible on this issue than someone who just posts comments online claiming to be a victim.

By the way, although you inexplicably never seem interested in relevant news reports, you might want to have a look at what’s being reported in this week’s news. Just today Reuters reported on a policy of U.S. law enforcement officials lying about investigation sources, and just yesterday, USA Today reported that the FBI frequently authorizes criminals to commit crimes. Sound familiar?

FightGangStalking.com lays out the case in detail for the idea that organized stalking is part of a counterintelligence policy.

So far I haven’t seen anyone in this forum or anywhere else make any specific arguments against the information presented there.
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8180 Aug 6, 2013
OS/GS is neighborhood watch / informant criminals / thugs, Police / Sheriff, entity / agency, Institutional / Organizational felony corruption, privacy / civil rights / liberties based violations, GPS tracking / stalking / defamation, crimes, obstruction of justice, investigative tampering!

...AND NOT...

OS/EH perp chemtrails, DEW, V2K, nano-tech disease, through wall / millimeter radar / short wave / microwave / radio / satellite / heat beam waves, HAARP, Freemasonry, secret society, silicone chip implants, laser weapons, high energy / low frequency auditory mind control / rape !

Agree.....or.......Disagree (you judge)!
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8181 Aug 6, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
THE NSA COMES CLEAN (Comic Strip)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/05/1228...
Funny, chilling and as it now seems, so very (criminally) true!
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8182 Aug 6, 2013
FightGangStalking wrote:
A comment posted in another forum - might be of interest. This was a reply to comments by "Eleanor White"
The point of gang stalking victims contacting the government and the media and others is not to get help – they probably won’t get any immediate help. The point is that if enough TIs repeatedly make such contacts (along with other tactics, such as mailing flyers) it will eventually expose gang stalking to the general public.
You frequently remind us of the alleged effectiveness of your strategies, but they obviously haven’t worked. It’s time for TIs to become more aggressive. The civil rights movement didn’t succeed by quietly speaking to a few people occassionally. It succeeded through a bold strategy of civil disobedience and public marches and taking risks.
When the first version of the FBI’s Cointelpro was exposed it was because activists broke into an FBI office and seized incriminating documents and released them, exposing the agency’s secret crimes – which helped lead to investigations by the U.S. Senate. The same kind of aggressiveness will be required to expose the current version of Cointelpro.
It seems more than a little suspicious that your advice – namely, to always take the least aggressive approach and never publicly challenge the perps or raise questions about the involvement of law enforcement personnel – is exactly the same advice that a perp would want TIs to follow. Is that just a coincidence?
Anyone who wants to see gang stalking continue without any problems for the perps would advocate what you’re suggesting: quietly endure the harassment.
You challenged me to cite evidence of the involvement of a particular government agency in organized stalking – but you haven’t yet even tried to explain away the claims of the late Ted Gunderson, the former FBI official who first exposed it as a government conspiracy.
In my opinion, a former head of the Los Angeles FBI office is more credible on this issue than someone who just posts comments online claiming to be a victim.
By the way, although you inexplicably never seem interested in relevant news reports, you might want to have a look at what’s being reported in this week’s news. Just today Reuters reported on a policy of U.S. law enforcement officials lying about investigation sources, and just yesterday, USA Today reported that the FBI frequently authorizes criminals to commit crimes. Sound familiar?
FightGangStalking.com lays out the case in detail for the idea that organized stalking is part of a counterintelligence policy.
So far I haven’t seen anyone in this forum or anywhere else make any specific arguments against the information presented there.
Yeah I have my doubts about EW as well and have made the same comments. She claims to be a thirty year victim and yet she has accomplished nothing with her tactics.
She use to post here and made many comments about not sounding crazy. Yet on the other Topics board she said she thought that the stalkers had somehow tapped into a third dimension. Sounds pretty loony to me.
Whatever the case her tactics dont work,and I agree a more aggressive approach is needed.
The problem as I see it is that by the time most victims figure out whats going on they're broke and have been labeled as crazy.
Thats where her ideas would actually help by making the public aware so when it happens to them they dont make the same mistakes.
But other then that I think she's full of shit.

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#8183 Aug 6, 2013
ptw wrote:
OS/GS is neighborhood watch / informant criminals / thugs, Police / Sheriff, entity / agency, Institutional / Organizational felony corruption, privacy / civil rights / liberties based violations, GPS tracking / stalking / defamation, crimes, obstruction of justice, investigative tampering!
Looks like the more information that comes out about the illegal nature of the NSA, DOJ, FBI, CIA and the US government, in general, the more you're going to have to add to your nefarious list of crimes!

***save a copy and keep adding to it :)
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8184 Aug 6, 2013
I couldn't agree more with both of you!
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8187 Aug 6, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
........a more aggressive approach is needed.
The problem as I see it is that by the time most victims figure out whats going on they're broke and have been labeled as crazy.
This now needs to be an area of extreme focus as with exposing all the corruption behind it!
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8189 Aug 6, 2013
Fight Gang Stalking wrote:
<quoted text>
The question is what do you do with the information? Now you know how the game is played (corrupt and/or deranged local and federal pigs are involved, others are manipulated and lied to so they will participate - doctors, landlords, ex-con's, etc.) and you're documenting what is happening. Now what?
The question is this: how do you disrupt the process? How do you expose these criminal rat-bastards?
These now are the important questions and areas of required, conceptual thought and focus as of previous post!

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#8190 Aug 6, 2013
Agree, completely.

Enough with the defensive tactics.

All TIs need to, seriously, consider and implement, well-tailored offensive tactics.

Some creative tactics can be found on this website:

http://fightgangstalking.com/tactics-for-figh...

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