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I found some really scary information this week. People will do pretty much anything to be able to afford to live in california.
What do they do? Who's telling you to post here? If you know enough to post here, you shouldn't be surprised what people do to other people by now...
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Seriously?
I've been a victim of this crap for around 14 years,and I've seen it all.
Why on earth would they tell you who they are?
You can count on most everything being a lie. Almost without exception all my encounters with fake friends/stalkers have claimed to be ex military. And or masons. The ones that come in contact with you in a minor way always say they are from out of town.
When you look at them half are trashy pieces of crap that you know wouldnt be accepted into the military.
While I'm not saying there are no masons who participate. I find it highly unlikely they would tell you they were masons.
Why would they paint a target on their backs?
Funny enough this guy above is Freemasonry counter intelligence. They identify themselves using numerology. The fact he has said he has been a target for 14 year most likely shows he is counter intelligence. In freemasonry they like to use the number 5 in numerology, basically all numbers are simplified into single digit. So 14 = 1+4 = 5. This is how Freemasonry identify themselves. Just for example 23 = 2+3 = 5. This works with all numbers so 11111= 1+1+1+1+1 =5. This for example with 77 = 7+7 =14 =1+4 =5. So always simplified to 1 digit 1-9 only. Anyway, each Freemasonry counter intelligence will say something like, "I have been gang stalked and I have a 23 months old baby" Something like that to factor is thier numerology 5. They can say nearly anything their age, child's age, length of time etc. This is how to spot them instantly. No one when they describe this and their problems have to mention how long or the age of their kids or themselves. So just a good tip to spot the counter intelligence. Also those talking about crazy things, such as lizard men, implants, gray aliens, mind matrix etc. It's all bull and counter intelligence of Freemasonry. You will see they are mostly Freemasons or sub-groups such as Jehovah Witness, Scientology, Morons etc. They organise in their local lodges to do this. If you think, "what's this about" Look up what Scientology did to members who left their group, it's called 'Fair Game'(very similar to Gang Stalking. Look up what happens to members of Jehovah who leave the group, Look up Freemasonry and "the Silent Dagger" or "White glove treatment". They basically did Gang stalking to their enemies and members who wanted to leave or not do what they are told. Now Freemasonry (The Pyramid with the Eye at the top) is seeking to have a NWO (New world Order) but they are failing terribly. So now you know who. What can you do? Very simple, talk and try to group together online. They monitor mostly everything from around you. They use technology to observe you from afar and do many things to so called "make you think you are going crazy" Are you,LOL ofcourse not.This is the NWO way to try to remove dissidents (Hero's, intelligent people and strong willed). They want obedient slaves for their NWO and as Freemasonry has shown, they like peadophiles as they are easy to control. Thus Jimmy Savile (peadophile), claimed Ted Heath, Ken Clarke etc. Why? Simple "Do what you are told and we will supply you with children to rape". Freemasonry promotes this massively and i'd recommend that you look up "The HOllie Greig' case of Freemasonry molesting a down syndrome girl her father and 12 friends, all Masons. Her mother found out and she went to the police. They used the first weapon of Freemasonry the Mental health approach. Freemasonry has many members in the mental health industry, police force, judiciary and government,local and central. So,the mother was committed into a mental hospital, drugged and threatened that she should shut up and be quiet, as she imagined it. Well the mother played along and got set free and went straight to a psychiatrist who gave her a clean sane bill of health. She then went at them full guns blazing, the sick freaks effected the judiciary and had a "insufficient evidence".
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Also, if you are curious, buy some spy recorders. Record your house and other places you think they are such as work etc. You can buy them easily from ebay. Though they will most likely knowas they are working with their members in government and secret service. Thus the PRISM program a Pyramid with light through it the NSA's logo this is the Freemasonry logo. The pyramid with the light going through it symbolising the enlightened state these bafoons think they have obtained, when in reality it's just the greedy elite families controlling the fools of society who are weak and needy. Hence, gang stalkings objective is to remove the 1 in 20 who would rise up against them as they are intelligent, strong willed and determined. The main goal is to have the person institutionalised, so they are easy to control by the Freemasonry controlled state. It's a tactic used in the old soviet union. This however is Freemasonry, hence why there are loads of movies depicted with the all seeing eye or people covering 1 of their eyes, like our dear friend Lady Gaga. Anyway, look all around how many one eye's can you see in films and on symbols etc. There you go,Freemasonry eye of providence, the all seeing eye or for those in the know, Lucifers eye. I mean it's even on the 1 dollar bill, you don't need a more fantastic example of who is trying to control the USA and the world. But what is needed is very simple. The USA has the right to remove rogue governments, do it. Then after non-freemasons are put into place, you need to eradicate every Freemasonry image and member from organisations. The fraud that has been happening for many years can easily be rectified. All assets of Freemasons are frozen and seized by the government, including organisations, charities and companies. Once this is done they are quite simply TOAST in the USA. Then without the war engine the western world will follow suit.
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Hey "in the know" apparently you're not.

If you've paid any attention to this thread over the years,you would notice that the years I've been a target have increased over that time. So what exactly does that mean in your fevered mind? Do 12 or 13 have any special meaning as well?

Get a grip...you sound a little loony,and that doesn't do any of us any good.
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OS/GS really is all about illegal privacy violations taking place behind the backs of all Americans. And it always has been!

Overwhelming Information being published in the news and specifically on recent site forums by victims from credible sources have provided an "eye opening" confirmation that this level of OS/GS corruption has deep seated entity/agency, enforcement roots (as of military abuse) and that it's been taking place for decades by corrupt civil servants.

And new recent exposure identifies NSA (FBI/DHS/DOJ) illegal and unwarranted capturing/tracking of everyone's online searches/history, phone metadata and social/chat history from your email addresses and unknowingly IP addresses (emails required by this site; IP provided automatically) from which to violate every aspect of your family's privacy!

And we now hear that illicitly accessed private information/data is all fed into these increasingly (so it appears) abusive and violating entities/agecies databases at the rate of 41 billion every month!

This is of course "the network", the "group" turning a blind eye to demented segments of local/area civil servants/neighborhood watch, acting as a "gang" (above/outside the law) violating, stalking, assaulting citizens for kicks !
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Thankfully, disgusted Americans are awakening to being intentionally deceived and lied to about unconstitutional crimes/violations; still being exhibited by conscious self-serving efforts by these directors bent on protecting and covering up abusive access to your illegally and unwarrantedly (fraudulently) captured privacy data (it's called damage control)!

Why? Well for one, as real OS victims can attest, "privacy" is really used or abused toward engaging in organized scheming, maliciously orchestrated campaigns to assault and discredit Americans (documenting/reporting abuses/misconduct and corruption) for sadistic sport, retribution, perverse amusement and kicks !

OS/GS has always been about an organized scheming, criminally corrupt network of abusive civil servants illegally, unwarrantedly and maliciously violating your constitutional civil rights, liberties and privacy from which to engage in harm, destruction, falsifications, more fraud, assaults, crimes and violations! All real felonies, not the "pushed" EH bull crap!

Corruption it appears, is what these agencies/entities are good at due to a complete lack of "accountable, responsible, culpable, respectful and democratic" oversight !! And from this we get "their" abusive interpretation of secret law, TIPS, FBI assessment teams and DHS/FBI/NSA "supposed" foreign terrorist programs. Yet, as a victim, this corruption has every signature of cowardly criminal "abuse of power, domestic terrorism, and fascism" (a.k.a. OS)!

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Conspiracy Theories Explained

Random events are deeply meaningful to paranoid schizophrenics. Is something happening in their brains?

By Kat McGowan, published on November 01, 2004 - last reviewed on February 20, 2007

"Paranoid schizophrenics are prone to delusions, tales in which random events become deeply meaningful. Some believe in complex conspiracies; others think they are Jesus Christ.

These stories sound crazy, but they may be the brain's efforts to make sense of its own internal messages, suggests Shitij Kapur, professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto and vice president of research at the Canadian Centre for Addiction and Mental Health. In addition to other brain abnormalities, schizophrenics have too much dopamine. Just as addicts' desensitized dopamine systems make them feel that nothing matters, high levels of the neurotransmitter make schizophrenics believe that everything is significant.

Because the addict's dopamine-driven salience system keeps telling her that something very important is happening, ordinary events appear intensely meaningful. That police car? That song on the radio? That man with a cigarette walking by? They must be part of a massive international conspiracy.

Kapur calls it "biased inductive logic"a top-down effort to explain the feeling that everything seems important. The cognitive parts of a schizophrenic's brain create the paranoid tale in an effort to explain the constant red alert blaring from the dopamine circuits, using any stimuli available. This is why delusions are culturally appropriate. African schizophrenics may fear they've fallen under the spell of a shaman, while Kapur's patients in Toronto think that the Mounties are after them.

Kapur cautions that this theory is still speculative, but it could support a radical idea: treating schizophrenia with cognitive therapy. If drugs control the overactive dopamine system, patients may then gradually unlearn their delusions."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/20050...

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NEW YORK WOMAN PAID VISIT BY JOINT TERRORIST TASK FORCE FOR COOKING LENTILS

"I felt a sense of creeping dread take over. What else had I looked up? What kind of searches did I do that alone seemed innocent enough but put together could make someone suspicious? Were they judging me because my house was a mess (Oh my god, the joint terrorism task force was in my house and there were dirty dishes in my sink!). Mostly I felt a great sense of anxiety. This is where we are at. Where you have no expectation of privacy. Where trying to learn how to cook some lentils could possibly land you on a watch list. Where you have to watch every little thing you do because someone else is watching every little thing you do."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/01/...

**You're an idiot, Seven.
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Seven...self analysis, as described in its own words:
Hektor Seven wrote:
...deeply..paranoid...
schizophrenic....prone to delusions...
..crazy.....Mental..abnormalit ies
believe..her..very important...meaningful...polic e car..
feeling..parts of a schizophrenic's brain..
fear..fallen under the spell of..Mounties..
radical..overactive..delusions ..
Gosh, I couldn't agree more!
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ptw wrote:
Seven...self analysis, as described in its own words:
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Gosh, I couldn't agree more!
Why suktor even bothers anymore is beyond me.
If brains equaled job performance his head would be empty.
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Hektor Seven wrote:
Conspiracy Theories Explained
Random events are deeply meaningful to paranoid schizophrenics. Is something happening in their brains?
By Kat McGowan, published on November 01, 2004 - last reviewed on February 20, 2007
"Paranoid schizophrenics are prone to delusions, tales in which random events become deeply meaningful. Some believe in complex conspiracies; others think they are Jesus Christ.
These stories sound crazy, but they may be the brain's efforts to make sense of its own internal messages, suggests Shitij Kapur, professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto and vice president of research at the Canadian Centre for Addiction and Mental Health. In addition to other brain abnormalities, schizophrenics have too much dopamine. Just as addicts' desensitized dopamine systems make them feel that nothing matters, high levels of the neurotransmitter make schizophrenics believe that everything is significant.
Because the addict's dopamine-driven salience system keeps telling her that something very important is happening, ordinary events appear intensely meaningful. That police car? That song on the radio? That man with a cigarette walking by? They must be part of a massive international conspiracy.
Kapur calls it "biased inductive logic"a top-down effort to explain the feeling that everything seems important. The cognitive parts of a schizophrenic's brain create the paranoid tale in an effort to explain the constant red alert blaring from the dopamine circuits, using any stimuli available. This is why delusions are culturally appropriate. African schizophrenics may fear they've fallen under the spell of a shaman, while Kapur's patients in Toronto think that the Mounties are after them.
Kapur cautions that this theory is still speculative, but it could support a radical idea: treating schizophrenia with cognitive therapy. If drugs control the overactive dopamine system, patients may then gradually unlearn their delusions."
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/20050...
Interesting you quote an East Indian psychiatrist. I remember when my gang stalking started I was googling East Indian culture to try to understand the pathology. I was reading how Asians and East Indians are so sexist that they abort girl fetuses. I started googling different nationalities with the word "crazy" "women" and "nationality". White women, black women, Asian women brought up a gazillion results. But when I googled the nationalities that were stalking me at that point almost no results came up. Google is obviously censored by these people so they can come into the country without even applying. You're probably one of those nuts who sits in Starbucks all day with your back to the corner and you're hacking all the computers. What a freak.
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Heavy wrote:
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What do they do? Who's telling you to post here? If you know enough to post here, you shouldn't be surprised what people do to other people by now...
Excellent argument, whatever it is...
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Here is a blog post by someone who claims that private investigators can't be accused of stalking because they have a license.

http://www.notstalking.com/2013/06/is-gang-st...

One of my books on stalking has a whole chapter on stalking by proxy. Private investigators are major offenders of this crime. Sometimes stalkers will get licensed just so they can follow their victims around. There is a legitimate story of how some rich guy paid a p.i. To follow a woman around with a helicopter. The guy who killed the actress, I think her name was was Schaefer, hired a p.i. To get her address from the DMV.
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Hektor Seven wrote:
Conspiracy Theories Explained
Random events are deeply meaningful to paranoid schizophrenics. Is something happening in their brains?
By Kat McGowan, published on November 01, 2004 - last reviewed on February 20, 2007
"Paranoid schizophrenics are prone to delusions, tales in which random events become deeply meaningful. Some believe in complex conspiracies; others think they are Jesus Christ.
These stories sound crazy, but they may be the brain's efforts to make sense of its own internal messages, suggests Shitij Kapur, professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto and vice president of research at the Canadian Centre for Addiction and Mental Health. In addition to other brain abnormalities, schizophrenics have too much dopamine. Just as addicts' desensitized dopamine systems make them feel that nothing matters, high levels of the neurotransmitter make schizophrenics believe that everything is significant.
Because the addict's dopamine-driven salience system keeps telling her that something very important is happening, ordinary events appear intensely meaningful. That police car? That song on the radio? That man with a cigarette walking by? They must be part of a massive international conspiracy.
Kapur calls it "biased inductive logic"a top-down effort to explain the feeling that everything seems important. The cognitive parts of a schizophrenic's brain create the paranoid tale in an effort to explain the constant red alert blaring from the dopamine circuits, using any stimuli available. This is why delusions are culturally appropriate. African schizophrenics may fear they've fallen under the spell of a shaman, while Kapur's patients in Toronto think that the Mounties are after them.
Kapur cautions that this theory is still speculative, but it could support a radical idea: treating schizophrenia with cognitive therapy. If drugs control the overactive dopamine system, patients may then gradually unlearn their delusions."
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/20050...
Notice how this ego-manica, "monsterous" deviant is trying to rationalize it's felony crimes, just as the other sadistic sexual pervert/kidnapper Ariel Castro did, through the exact same tactics of defaming, accusing and blaming victims !!

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Mru486 Wrote:

Here is a blog post by someone who claims that private investigators can't be accused of stalking because they have a license.
http://www.notstalking.com/2013/06/is-gang-st...

Not a real good blog for TIs to be quoting or looking at in depth. I understand your point but this kind of stuff can really "cut deep".

My suggestion is that any TI interested, should spam that article with your own comments about Gang Stalking.

By the way, check out one that was left this morning.

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Mru486 Wrote:

Here is a blog post by someone who claims that private investigators can't be accused of stalking because they have license:

http://www.notstalking.com/2013/06/is-gang-st...

Not a real good blog for TIs to be quoting or looking at in depth. I understand your point but this kind of stuff can really "cut deep".

My suggestion is that any TI interested, should spam that article with your own comments about Gang Stalking.

By the way, check out one that was left this morning.
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I've been made to know that there is no way this will ever end. I grew up in the town my stalkers occupy never knowing and realizing just how the people really were over the years. The university always made it seem like it was so liberal and artistic. The underside is highly conservative with a masonic village (yes, it is real) on the outskirts with a heavy religious undertone. They are nation wide (I tried to run) and well connected. They use gangs and people of low caliber for their nefarious deeds. Homeless drug users will do anything for a hundred dollars. The lies and the slander are easily placed by people who simply slide into any scene. If you are paid regularly or well off with nothing to do after work it becomes a simple matter of greasing the palms of people you meet. Say, at coffee houses or bars. To many people this seems so far out as to not be possible. I thought the same thing for years as I had a hard time with why anyone would bother. But after 12 years of constant harassment (some times more intense than others) there can be only one conclusion. They will not stop no matter what I do.

I can say that I am now aware of a wealthy conservative element working closely with local and fed government, University staff and professors, police, churches, and local watch groups. Some individuals have to come to light through my own investigation as former military or closely affiliated, and at least is a federal agent.
Which leads me to be believe COINTELPRO has taken a drastic new course in what is being termed Social Engineering. Government elements assist local communities unofficially to "clean up" their town using barely legal tactics and underhanded politics as well as utilizing police and gangs to force the poor into "acceptable" situations or out of town. All for the sake of safety and the children. Which is a terrible place to hide tyranny. The proof is in the pudding as they say. All one has to do is look at local politics and what, as a whole, the bunch of them say they're trying to do to clean up their town. However, leaving affords no end as I was tracked across state lines and had encounters in the middle of no where with people I had never met who knew my face and name. The news from other cities points to the same issues with people fighting local governments over ordinances that are highly un-constitutional and have no consideration for human rights. The masons ARE involved. They wanted me to be sure I knew. They want us all scared is what it comes down to. Scared is compliant. A terrified person will do almost anything to end it. Even conform. They know this. They want us to fit into one of their boxes. And until we, do we will be faced with them day in and day out until we find a way to raise the consciousness of these deluded people.
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I've been made to know that there is no way this will ever end. I grew up in the town my stalkers occupy never knowing and realizing just how the people really were over the years. The university always made it seem like it was so liberal and artistic. The underside is highly conservative with a masonic village (yes, it is real) on the outskirts with a heavy religious undertone. They are nation wide (I tried to run) and well connected. They use gangs and people of low caliber for their nefarious deeds. Homeless drug users will do anything for a hundred dollars. The lies and the slander are easily placed by people who simply slide into any scene. If you are paid regularly or well off with nothing to do after work it becomes a simple matter of greasing the palms of people you meet. Say, at coffee houses or bars. To many people this seems so far out as to not be possible. I thought the same thing for years as I had a hard time with why anyone would bother. But after 12 years of constant harassment (some times more intense than others) there can be only one conclusion. They will not stop no matter what I do.
I can say that I am now aware of a wealthy conservative element working closely with local and fed government, University staff and professors, police, churches, and local watch groups. Some individuals have to come to light through my own investigation as former military or closely affiliated, and at least is a federal agent.
Which leads me to be believe COINTELPRO has taken a drastic new course in what is being termed Social Engineering. Government elements assist local communities unofficially to "clean up" their town using barely legal tactics and underhanded politics as well as utilizing police and gangs to force the poor into "acceptable" situations or out of town. All for the sake of safety and the children. Which is a terrible place to hide tyranny. The proof is in the pudding as they say. All one has to do is look at local politics and what, as a whole, the bunch of them say they're trying to do to clean up their town. However, leaving affords no end as I was tracked across state lines and had encounters in the middle of no where with people I had never met who knew my face and name. The news from other cities points to the same issues with people fighting local governments over ordinances that are highly un-constitutional and have no consideration for human rights. The masons ARE involved. They wanted me to be sure I knew. They want us all scared is what it comes down to. Scared is compliant. A terrified person will do almost anything to end it. Even conform. They know this. They want us to fit into one of their boxes. And until we, do we will be faced with them day in and day out until we find a way to raise the consciousness of these deluded people.
I think you'll find that they let you know,what they want to let you know.
Misdirection is their specialty.
Why dont you go hang out at the lodge and see if you can spot your stalkers attending meetings?
See here's the thing. When you confront or photograph these people they run. If they are so determined to keep you from identifying them,why would they tell you where you can find them? They're trying to make you show up at the lodge and start shooting so you'll end up in prison.

Oh and by the way...I'm a somewhat wealthy Republican.
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Somewhat whatever!
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I've been made to know that there is no way this will ever end........They want us to fit into one of their boxes. And until we, do we will be faced with them day in and day out until we find a way to raise the consciousness of these deluded people.
You are right, but the perps are the dinosaurs. Even half the right-wingers now think the police state people are scum. They are losing the big picture debate about whether America should be a Nazi retard utopia.

Marijuana legalization, gay marriage, and polls showing most Americans think Edward Snowden is a hero... None of this bodes well for the creepy fascist tribe. Real Americans believe in freedom - not East Germany Stasi-type neighborhood spy clubs.

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