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Kunming, China

#8097 Jul 27, 2013
Freemasonry is behind gang stalking, they years ago did a similar process to their enemies and members who did not obey,called 'The white glove treatment' or 'THe silent dagger'.
So they simply are doing it on a wide scale now as they want to bring about their NWO (new world order) and all those good people who would stand against them they are trying to remove. I have emailed the government regarding a peadophile case belived to be Freemasons and NO ONE would reply, stating they would not talk about the Masons subject.
Simple they are behind this with their weird new world order.
Brina

Minneapolis, MN

#8098 Jul 27, 2013
Now the gang stalkers know I donate blood, so now the asking the at CSL plasmato rig me for death.......this man Derrick Kimmons who shouts death threats to me via v2k remarking how he will kill me and my kid.....having other gang stalkers remarking whe. My facebook.com/karizmakid comes down I will be murdered or fake suicided....I dont do hard drugs like coke or meth or pop pills these ppl are using law enforcement to spearheadspearhead mind control psychotronics and electronic weapons on cilvilians this operation is DOD which is hiding behind law enforcement clauses concerning nonconsensual testing on civilians for crowd control purposes noway being v2ked you are going to be killed is crowd control it is wrong ......This may be HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE DIA instead of just DOD.
Brina

Minneapolis, MN

#8099 Jul 27, 2013
Mru486 wrote:
U.s. army, synthetic telepathy, uc irvine
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php...
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-503063_162-201172 ...
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Riverside, CA

#8100 Jul 27, 2013
Comment from another forum. Might be of interest.
Harbinger wrote:
Trying to inflate the riff-raff who work these shakedowns to secret agent status is foolhardy. They are trailer trash with the skills of monkeys, totally valueless time, with authoritarian dreams. By trying to mimic programs of the past, they hope to provoke strong reactions for blackmail and lawsuits by an involved ambulance chasing attorney. They steal lawn furniture to sell at flea markets. The American landscape is filled with such trash looking to scratch a living without work. If anyone is a victim of this scam, pay no attention, beef up security. A video security system will work wonders.
You're exactly right. Most of the street-level perps are just useful idiots desperate for cash - or vigilantes who have been lied to. The Director of the FBI is not going to personally pay you a visit to harass you.

But don't believe for a second that the federal government - which can spy on and assassinate people remotely on the other side of the earth and can monitor the entire country's email doesn't know exactly what's going on. The fact that they don't try to intervene means they approve of what's happening. They see it as serving their purposes.

The news media contains numerous articles about the federal government closely monitoring - and trying to manipulate - online information. There are also plenty of news articles about the federal government using private corporations to gather intelligence (Stratfor and others) and to spread propaganda, and even to perform military operations (Blackwater, etc.).

The NSA alone (one of about 16 intelligence agencies) outsources work to about 500 corporations to support their national and international spying.

The fact that the perps in your neighborhood - and the perps in these forums ("Brina" "Hector 7" "Tampa Knows" etc.) are probably just low-level contract employees doesn't mean anything. Gang Stalking is ultimately the project of high-level gov't people and their cronies.

But you're right: the common perps (online and on the street) are just lowly minions.

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Kunming, China

#8101 Jul 27, 2013
Freemasonry are behind Gang Stalking for their New World Order. Plain and simple. Avoid the crazy talk on here,it's their counter intelligence.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8102 Jul 28, 2013
in the know wrote:
Freemasonry are behind Gang Stalking for their New World Order. Plain and simple. Avoid the crazy talk on here,it's their counter intelligence.
Seriously?
I've been a victim of this crap for around 14 years,and I've seen it all.
Why on earth would they tell you who they are?
You can count on most everything being a lie. Almost without exception all my encounters with fake friends/stalkers have claimed to be ex military. And or masons. The ones that come in contact with you in a minor way always say they are from out of town.

When you look at them half are trashy pieces of crap that you know wouldnt be accepted into the military.

While I'm not saying there are no masons who participate. I find it highly unlikely they would tell you they were masons.
Why would they paint a target on their backs?
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#8103 Jul 28, 2013
I know that google controls what comes up in searches in order to censor various communities. Really weird I haven't seen this before about synthetic telepathy. The tech people definitely like to mess with people's heads through the Internet. I guess tv is more believable at this point.

Here's interesting article on the beginning of synthetic telepathy by miller.
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#8104 Jul 28, 2013
in the know wrote:
Freemasonry are behind Gang Stalking for their New World Order. Plain and simple. Avoid the crazy talk on here,it's their counter intelligence.
They could be one of many power seeking political cliques who knows that nobody wants them around.
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#8105 Jul 28, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously?
I've been a victim of this crap for around 14 years,and I've seen it all.
Why on earth would they tell you who they are?
You can count on most everything being a lie. Almost without exception all my encounters with fake friends/stalkers have claimed to be ex military. And or masons. The ones that come in contact with you in a minor way always say they are from out of town.
When you look at them half are trashy pieces of crap that you know wouldnt be accepted into the military.
While I'm not saying there are no masons who participate. I find it highly unlikely they would tell you they were masons.
Why would they paint a target on their backs?
Yeah, masons are a secret society. They use their meetings as ways to practice keeping secrets as a group. All the people I've seen vandalizeing my car have been immigrants, Hispanic, East Indian and Asians. Other people sometimes get caught up in their gossip though. It's interesting to see which demographics will participate most easily.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#8106 Jul 29, 2013
GANGSTALKING IS MURDER DOT WORDPRESS DOT COM

"Based on my investigative work...I have come to the conclusion that
thousands of victims have been targeted by an illegal government rogue
criminal enterprise that is active 24 hours a day in the U.S. This
conspiracy is far too active to be controlled or operated by private
enterprise whose goals are achieving financial gain. These operations
require extensive financing with no return on the investment. This
program's operations are financed by illegal black operations, i.e.,
narcotics, prostitution...

I have documentation and know that throughout the U.S., operating 24
hours a day and 7 days a week, there is a Central Command...whose
administrators can instantly initiate surveillance, phone taps and
harassment against anyone in the country...at any time, day or night. I
have files on numerous cases of active, programmatic, illegal
government harassment currently being conducted against thousands of
Americans. This makes the FBI's former COINTELPRO program, which I
worked on, including in a supervisory capacity, look like a Sunday
school program by comparison.

- former FBI Assistant Director, Ted L. Gunderson, in an affidavit
in support of F.O.I.A. plaintiff's case in Labella v. FBI, et. al.,
2012 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 37830 (E.D.N.Y. Mar.19, 2012)(Garaufis,J.)

http://gangstalkingismurder.wordpress.com/
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#8107 Jul 29, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
GANGSTALKING IS MURDER DOT WORDPRESS DOT COM
"Based on my investigative work...I have come to the conclusion that
thousands of victims have been targeted by an illegal government rogue
criminal enterprise that is active 24 hours a day in the U.S. This
conspiracy is far too active to be controlled or operated by private
enterprise whose goals are achieving financial gain. These operations
require extensive financing with no return on the investment. This
program's operations are financed by illegal black operations, i.e.,
narcotics, prostitution...
I have documentation and know that throughout the U.S., operating 24
hours a day and 7 days a week, there is a Central Command...whose
administrators can instantly initiate surveillance, phone taps and
harassment against anyone in the country...at any time, day or night. I
have files on numerous cases of active, programmatic, illegal
government harassment currently being conducted against thousands of
Americans. This makes the FBI's former COINTELPRO program, which I
worked on, including in a supervisory capacity, look like a Sunday
school program by comparison.
- former FBI Assistant Director, Ted L. Gunderson, in an affidavit
in support of F.O.I.A. plaintiff's case in Labella v. FBI, et. al.,
2012 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 37830 (E.D.N.Y. Mar.19, 2012)(Garaufis,J.)
http://gangstalkingismurder.wordpress.com/
I would have liked to see gunderson s documentation, for sure. The Masonic lodges really have come back at the same time as my stalking started. All of my stalkers would drop anything and do whatever a tall white guy told them to do.
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8109 Jul 30, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
GANGSTALKING IS MURDER DOT WORDPRESS DOT COM
"Based on my investigative work...I have come to the conclusion that
thousands of victims have been targeted by an illegal government rogue
criminal enterprise that is active 24 hours a day in the U.S. This
conspiracy is far too active to be controlled or operated by private
enterprise whose goals are achieving financial gain. These operations
require extensive financing with no return on the investment. This
program's operations are financed by illegal black operations, i.e.,
narcotics, prostitution...
I have documentation and know that throughout the U.S., operating 24
hours a day and 7 days a week, there is a Central Command...whose
administrators can instantly initiate surveillance, phone taps and
harassment against anyone in the country...at any time, day or night. I
have files on numerous cases of active, programmatic, illegal
government harassment currently being conducted against thousands of
Americans. This makes the FBI's former COINTELPRO program, which I
worked on, including in a supervisory capacity, look like a Sunday
school program by comparison.
- former FBI Assistant Director, Ted L. Gunderson, in an affidavit
in support of F.O.I.A. plaintiff's case in Labella v. FBI, et. al.,
2012 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 37830 (E.D.N.Y. Mar.19, 2012)(Garaufis,J.)
http://gangstalkingismurder.wordpress.com/
Once again these FBI relevations are significant and speak directly of the same levels of targeted criminal activities going on today by these same entities/agencies (NSA, etc) and specifically of OS/GS.

The difference is old world and new world funding. Yester-year this may have included the necessity to engage in black operations (as recent news out of the Boston mobster case claims with the FBI in bed with mobsters).

Today you have funding by the Department of Homeland Security (under the guise of "terrorists supposed dedicated" programs, that's been illegally adapted to include "spying" on ordinary, everyday citizens for kicks [felony])!

And where is this funding going; to your local sheriff offices (DHS TIPS program involving neighborhood watch [ex-enforcement/military/civil servant personnel]) in the way of direct cash and as recent publications identify, through other entities/agencies,(military equipment, abusive FBI assessment training).

Again, utilized against ordinary, everyday Americans for kicks, vendettas, retaliations (whistleblower targeted), perverse sport and sadistic amusement (OS/GS), involving illegal, unconstitutional felony violations to privacy, civil/legal rights and liberties (all felonies)!
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8110 Jul 30, 2013
As recent NSA relevations identify, and real OS victims can attest, it's obvious that entity/agency/DHS funding/equipment being used in illegal and unwarranted computer hacking (via cable access), phone/cell wiretapping, cell/gps tracking, cable box eavesdropping by local enforcement.

And (according to the dismantling of equipment posted on the web), it also appears that these illegal violations to privacy/civil rights have extended to the use of pin camera technology place in cable boxes, now enabling video recorded spying within American households.

This is how ALL OS/GS has permeated itself into civil society; through illegal, unwarranted mail (photo) and gps (auto) tracking, eavesdropping, recording and wiretapping initiatives (these are the uncontrollable excesses, abuses, misconduct worrying congressional representatives)!

And, it's already been documented that the FBI had previously lobbied commercial communications companies to included these capabilities in all of their consumer products! And it you've lobbied it, you'll use it (as all the obvious lying, deception and obstruction of justice indicates) illegally and unwarranted!
qux

Brooklyn, NY

#8111 Jul 30, 2013
Thoughts become words.
Thought salad becomes word salad.
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8112 Jul 30, 2013
correction, speaking of fbi: And if you lobbied it, you'll use it
ptw

Homestead, FL

#8113 Jul 30, 2013
In stark contrast, and observable to all victims; are "back door" concerted and deplorable efforts behind inventive, phony EH's bull crap and disgusting attempts to assimilated this "designed psychosis" (fraud) into designed OS (felonies); then somehow claim it's inclusive and real (as hacking/eavesdropping/wiretapp ing/gps). It is not!

EH would not make a pimple on a gentleman's arse, in any attempt to assimilate authenticity or by trying to included it in "any" category as "real" commercially available technology,(vs. FBI admitted, lobbied capabilites for "real" eavesdropping, wiretapping and hacking)!

EH, V2K, through wall radar, etc., etc, etc, is nothing but a corrupt attempt at fringe fabricated, phony bull crap, intent at creating and spreading dispair, uselessness, and dependency by it's insecure and criminal creators, "pushing" an OS "inventive" psychosis.

The whole idea of EH is beyond completely obsurd and is probably the stupidist thing I'll ever hear! Clearly any attempt is purely deceptive and manipulative towards covering up enforcement, entity/agency (FBI/NSA) corruption, violations, crimes and atrocities; which we all now know are behind all OS/GS!

Again, only "stupid is, as stupid does" (corrupt civil servant) would invent terms (EH) covering up "actual, real" physical threats/ harassment, defamation campaigns, felony crimes/violations. F'ing unbelievable!

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#8114 Jul 30, 2013
DANIEL ELLSBERG, FAMED WHISTLEBLOWER OF THE PENTAGON PAPERS:

****A FINAL WORD FOR THOSE INSIDE THE SYSTEM TO STEP FORWARD****

AMY GOODMAN: Dan Ellsberg, why don’t you pick it up from there, and that is how what you did then relates to today. In the last few years, you have been calling for people, who like you 35 years ago were inside the system, to step outside and to release an equivalent of the Pentagon Papers. Do you think they exist—the papers and these people who could step forward?

DANIEL ELLSBERG: Well, of course, the papers exist. The Pentagon Papers, the equivalent of them, exist in safes in Washington, all over Washington, not only in the Pentagon, but in the CIA and the State Department and elsewhere. Are there people who realize what the meaning of those—the full meaning of those papers in their safes? Yes. We know from many leaks and memoirs that have come out that there were people in the White House and the CIA and the Pentagon who realized that we were being lied into war. They realized that as early as 2001.

So my message, Amy, over the last two years has been to officials in that position, of whom there are hundreds, not only in 2001 and 2002, hundreds right now who could prevent a war with Iran that is on the tracks right now, that they know, and that they know would be disastrous. They could put that out with the authority of their position, but especially of documents, at the risk—the certainty—of losing their clearances, which would almost certainly—which would mean losing their career with the executive branch, possibly, very likely, subjecting them to prosecution, possibly to conviction, possibly to prison. And by taking that risk, they would have a high chance of averting a catastrophe that would lead to the deaths of tens, hundreds of thousands of people and disastrously reduce our security. They know that. So by taking their own personal risk, like the 5,000 people who went to prison as draft resisters in Vietnam, and by the people here who took risks with their institution and their privacy, by taking that risk they could avert this.

SO MY MESSAGE IS TO THEM:

Don’t do what I did. Don’t wait 'til the war has started. Don't wait 'til the bombs have fallen against Iran, or earlier Iraq. Don't wait ’til the engine of this war is unstoppable. Before the war, take the risk. REVEAL WHAT YOU KNOW TO BE THE TRUTH. Reveal the truth under the lies of your own bosses and your superiors. OBEY YOUR OATH TO THE CONSTITUTION, which every one of those officials took, not to the commander-in-chief, not to superior officers, but to the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, which they know is being violated.

AMY GOODMAN: Pentagon whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg, Unitarian leader Robert West, and Democratic presidential candidate Mike Gravel.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/7/4/how_the_...

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#8115 Jul 30, 2013
LAWMAKERS WHO UPHELD NSA SPYING RECEIVED DOUBLE THE DEFENSE INDUSTRY MONEY

That’s the upshot of a new analysis by MapLight, a Berkeley-based non-profit that performed the inquiry at WIRED’s request. The investigation shows that defense cash was a better predictor of a member’s vote on the Amash amendment than party affiliation. House members who voted to continue the massive phone-call-metadata spy program, on average, raked in 122 percent more money from defense contractors than those who voted to dismantle it.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/mone...

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#8117 Jul 30, 2013
ARMY DEPLOYS ILLEGAL "PSY-OPS" ON U.S. SENATORS
____by Michael Hastings

The U.S. Army illegally ordered a team of soldiers specializing in "psychological operations" to manipulate visiting American senators into providing more troops and funding for the war, Rolling Stone has learned – and when an officer tried to stop the operation, he was railroaded by military investigators.

The orders came from the command of Lt. Gen. William Caldwell, a three-star general in charge of training Afghan troops – the linchpin of U.S. strategy in the war. Over a four-month period last year, a military cell devoted to what is known as "information operations" at Camp Eggers in Kabul was repeatedly pressured to target visiting senators and other VIPs who met with Caldwell. When the unit resisted the order, arguing that it violated U.S. laws prohibiting the use of propaganda against American citizens, it was subjected to a campaign of retaliation.

"My job in psy-ops is to play with people’s heads, to get the enemy to behave the way we want them to behave," says Lt. Colonel Michael Holmes, the leader of the IO unit, who received an official reprimand after bucking orders. "I’m prohibited from doing that to our own people. When you ask me to try to use these skills on senators and congressman, you’re crossing a line."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/ano...

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Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#8118 Jul 30, 2013
LAWSUIT LAUNCHED AGAINST DOJ FOR FBI RECORDS ON MICHAEL HASTINGS

On July 24, Forbes revealed that computer security researcher team Chris Miller and Chris Valasek could wirelessly manipulate a moving automobile with a laptop.

Miller and Valasek’s work served to bolster speculation that Hastings’s vehicle was hijacked via a cyber attack, resulting in his tragic death on June 18.

Hastings rose to prominence for his expose in Rolling Stone magazine on now-retired U.S. Army General Stanley McChrystal that ultimately lead to the general’s resignation.

Hastings also exposed an illegal U.S. Army psychological operation directed against U.S. senators visiting Afghanistan. The operation was intended to influence the legislators to appropriate more funding to the war effort.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/29/lawsuit-lau...

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