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Jul 21, 2013
 
First they ignore you,
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then they fight you,
then you win.

______Mahatma Gandhi
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Jul 21, 2013
 
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.
John Lennon
Yeah I'm very worried about this.
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Jul 21, 2013
 

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A Special Place In Hell wrote:
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
______Mahatma Gandhi
Either that or they explain to everyone that you are Ajax slaughtering the cattle and everyone believes them because of Occams rule.
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Jul 21, 2013
 

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Have a book called "stalkers and their victims" by Mullen, pathe and Purcell which has an entire chapter on "stalking by proxy". This is as close as the authorities can get to gang stalking or organized stalking.

There is discussion about how groups of people can be used to stalk a person. Interesting that there is a real case where a rich person hired a private detective to stalk a person with a helicopter.

Sorry my typing is so bad.

Other groups are often tricked into participating. Even includes information about Internet and media. Some media is making fun of organized stalking by creating false shows about it. The writers warn that stalking victims will often falsely accuse people of helping their stalkers, such as telephone company employees. So, its always good to doubt ones paranoias. I heard an official FBI guy give an official way of knowing if you are being tailed but he may have been a jerk so I won't repeat what he said.

The next chapter is on "False victims of stalking" which is what I assume targets are called. shrinks and law enforcement have high rates of being stalked themselves and they are very educated about their own situation so they might even assume you are there to stalk them. Some guesses are that 2percent of all stalking cases are false victimization. That figure seems low because it seems that most stalking victims have traditionally been ignored.
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Jul 22, 2013
 
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
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This is the best "example" that I've found.
Mike German, FBI, interviewed at the end of this clip mentions the black-mail of neighbors by rooting through their garbage:
SCOTT CROW: "DOMESTIC TERRORIST"
"Common Ground" founder and activist finds out he's been investigated and followed by the FBI for 8 years. No history of violence; no charges.
Former FBI, Mike German on black-mail of neighbors; over-extension of law and out-right lying through FOIA requests.
Democracy Now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
And again, straight from the horses (FBI) mouth, victims learn that their own country's entities/agencies are responible and have taken center stage in the perpetuation of "organized" violations against the public (their sworn to protect) by engaging in cowardice, corruption, and crimes!

Once again another credible (FBI) entity/agency source identifying "organized" scheming atrocities as a result of "illegal, unwarranted" initiatives, activities, policies and procedures,(notice NO WHERE do these credible sources engage in woo-woo, hocus-pocus crazy talk)!!

Why is this subtle recognition important; because it speaks to that element of the public, who get caught up in purposefully perpetuated "crazy talk" !!(As also displayed by an unquestioning element of the public who [beyond reasoning] believed in "crop circles," for years; now also firmly admitted to being nothing but a "FRAUD, HOAX" by those actually creating them).

So too V2K, EH, through wall radar as of all other perpetuated "bullcrap" out there (by this same network of cowardly corrupt and criminal civil servant/surrogate informants/snitches/turncoats) , are in absolute truth nothing but a "FRAUD, HOAX" !!
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#8057
Jul 23, 2013
 
If you have identified that you're a target of "organized assaults";

then you and your family have been victimized for years,

by nothing more than cowardly corrupt and criminal civil servants,

engage in nothing less than illegal, unwarranted privacy/civil rights/liberties and constitutional felony violations,

with "sole" intent to "screw" with your family/friends !!

This is how "ALL" law (less) enforcement (corrupt legal system) operates today !!
Sari

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#8058
Jul 23, 2013
 
ptw wrote:
If you have identified that you're a target of "organized assaults";
then you and your family have been victimized for years,
by nothing more than cowardly corrupt and criminal civil servants,
engage in nothing less than illegal, unwarranted privacy/civil rights/liberties and constitutional felony violations,
with "sole" intent to "screw" with your family/friends !!
This is how "ALL" law (less) enforcement (corrupt legal system) operates today !!
My stalkers are mostly illegal immigrants and their kids. It's true that they have most of the civil service jobs. The employees at my phone company are on some scary power trips. The illegal I migrants are all from corrupt countries.
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Do not ever forget FREEMASONRY is behind Gang Stalking with it's Freaky rich elite families at the top.

FREAKS!
RunGsersRun

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in the know wrote:
Do not ever forget FREEMASONRY is behind Gang Stalking with it's Freaky rich elite families at the top.
FREAKS!
There are several problems I have with the idea that freemasons are involved.
Number one is one of my stalkers claimed to be a high level mason and asked me to join. One of the biggest rules in free masonry is you NEVER ask someone to join.
Second is their vulnerability. It's not like the mason lodge location is a big secret.
I'm not saying for sure they aren't involved. But you need to take into account the penchant for the stalkers to tell you what you want to hear. Because it's wrong.

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#8062
Jul 23, 2013
 
WILL THE REAL TRAITORS PLEASE STAND UP?
___Behind The Mask Of Sanctimony

It is not clear to an ordinary person what Snowden has revealed that William Binney and other whistleblowers have not already revealed. Perhaps the difference is that Snowden has provided documents that prove it, thereby negating Washington’s ability to deny the facts with its usual lies.

Whatever the reason for Washington’s blather, it certainly is not doing the US government any good. Far more interesting than Snowden’s revelations is the decision by governments of other countries to protect a truth-teller from the Stasi in Washington.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/28/will-t...

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Jul 23, 2013
 
WHY DEMOCRATS LOVE TO SPY ON AMERICANS

___by Michael Hastings

For most bigwig Democrats in Washington, D.C., the last 48 hours has delivered news of the worst kind — a flood of new information that has washed away any lingering doubts about where President Obama and his party stand on civil liberties, full stop.

Glenn Greenwald’s exposure of the NSA’s massive domestic spy program has revealed the entire caste of current Democratic leaders as a gang of civil liberty opportunists, whose true passion, it seems, was in trolling George W. Bush for eight years on matters of national security.

“Everyone should just calm down,” Senator Harry Reid said yesterday, inhaling slowly.

That’s right: don’t panic.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/why-democra...

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Jul 23, 2013
 
WHY THE HACKS HATE MICHAEL HASTINGS

___by Barrett Brown

The most impact-laden story of the year, the one in which General Stanley McChrystal, the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, and his aides talked trash about President Barack Obama and members of his administration, appeared in Rolling Stone, not National Review.

And it was written by a perfect specimen of the new breed of journalist-commentator that will hopefully come to replace the old breed sooner rather than later, and which has already collectively surpassed the old guard by every measure that counts—for instance, not being forever wrong about matters of life and death.

I should note—not only in the interest of full disclosure, but also necessary context—that I am a friend and admirer of Michael Hastings, the author of the Rolling Stone piece in question. He was kind enough to blurb my upcoming book on the failures of the American punditry (and is planning on writing a novel on the same topic, incidentally); he shares my opinions on the state of journalism and opinion in this country; and he has joined up with Project PM, my perhaps quixotic attempt to do a small part in improving that media whose flawed reporting on matters of war and peace has recently had a hand in leaving hundreds of thousands dead and injured our republic’s ability to rationally operate both at home and abroad.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/0...

http://fightgangstalking.com/

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#8065
Jul 23, 2013
 
16 EXAMPLES OF POLITICIANS GETTING TROLLED ON TWITTER

Enjoy!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/tips-for-po...
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A Special Place In Hell wrote:
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
______Mahatma Gandhi
Don't know how to respond to this because I'm being gang stalked originally by East Indians. The head of one of the departments of the NSA is East Indian. I think it was the legal department.
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Electronic harassment(EH) lowers the level of acetylcholine by stimulating neurons in the temporal lobe?, which in turn lowers the dopamine-acetylcholine balance - slowing down perception and jamming the left brain. It also has an effect on the parasympathetic nervous system as this is primarily running off acetylcholine. DUMBELS right? you might encounter constipation or other symptoms. These effects cause "stress" and can impair judgement and the ability to control oneself... for example your anger. Who knows whatever behavioral disturbances this might lead to. This would be particularly troubling if the target were young with a yet to be fully developed frontal lobe. Going on and off medications, as some TIs do, would screw things up even more and it would take things even longer for things to return to normal. Lowered acetylcholine levels could also induce "mania" a kin to being on a dumb drug high.

I think gang stalking is all about EH. The whole experience is a vivid hallucination. It's amazing what suggestions and "charged" motoric tics can do. To get out all you have to do is restore the level of neurotransmitters ( acetylcholine ) and things are back to normal. Cholinergics aren't hard to find.

The motives of these groups is any guess.
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#8068
Jul 23, 2013
 
Latest real gangstalk vid caught on google earth.

http://m.youtube.com/watch...
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Jul 24, 2013
 
justin shizzel wrote:
Latest real gangstalk vid caught on google earth.
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
Could very well be stalking. It fits the behavior for sure.
Obviously need a little more info,like is there a university near by?

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"YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. OR, THE DANGER BECOMES GREATER."
_____Ai WeiWei

A quote from the Chinese artist and political activist from the documentary, "Ai WeiWei: Never Sorry".

http://www.aiweiweineversorry.com/

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ai-we...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_Weiwei
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Jul 24, 2013
 

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A Special Place In Hell wrote:
"YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. OR, THE DANGER BECOMES GREATER."
_____Ai WeiWei
A quote from the Chinese artist and political activist from the documentary, "Ai WeiWei: Never Sorry".
http://www.aiweiweineversorry.com/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ai-we...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_Weiwei
He's awesome.
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Jul 24, 2013
 

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TheFringe Radio Show had Cheryl welsh on talking about mind control and targeted individuals last night. There might be a podcast.

Here
S Cheryl welsh's website

http://mindjustice.org/

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