Gang Stalking Debate Forum!

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#7908 Jul 2, 2013
U.S. GOVERNMENT DECLARES HACKING AN ACT OF WAR....
THEN HACKS ALLIES

U.S. hacking of China and the EU may not have caused such harm to those countries, but that hasn't stopped EU officials from expressing outrage. "I am deeply worried and shocked about the allegations of U.S. authorities spying on EU offices," Martin Schulz, president of the European Parliament said. "If the allegations prove to be true, it would be an extremely serious matter which will have a severe impact on EU-U.S. relations."

Jean Asselborn, Luxembourg's foreign minister, also chimed in, calling the practice "abominable."

A spokesman for German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that "bugging friends is unacceptable."

French President Francois Hollande condemned the practice as well, saying, "We cannot accept this type of behavior between partners and allies." Hollande later said that the hacking was not necessary for anti-terrorism efforts. "We know that there are systems which have to control notably for the threat against terrorism, but I do not think that this is in our embassies or in the EU that this risks exist," he said.

President Obama, however, DOESN'T SEEM TO THINK HE'S DONE ANYTHING WRONG.

Apparently, you might be a terrorist if you work for the EU.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/us-government-d...

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#7909 Jul 2, 2013
PORN!, WINE!, NERF BALLS!: IRS CHARGES IT UP

A lack of oversight allowed Internal Revenue Service employees to purchase wine and pornography, among other things, with government-issued credit cards, the agency's inspector general said.

The IRS made more than 273,000 purchases totaling more than $103 million by using credit cards and another $4.4 million using convenience checks, the inspector general said in a June 20 report. The purchases took place in 2010 and 2011.

Of the almost 400 cards given to employees, just two percent were cut off before the employee to which they were assigned left the IRS, the IG said. The exact number cut off was not specified in the report, but two percent of 400 is eight.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/porn-wine-nerf-...

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#7910 Jul 2, 2013
"OBSCURE" GOVERNMENT ETHICS OFFICE HACKED :)

The office is a SMALL AGENCY within the executive branch that oversees compliance by federal employees with standards of conflicts and conflicts of interest, especially among members of the Senior Executive Service and presidential appointees.

"I don't know, understand why someone would want to shut down OGE's site. First of all, you'd have to know what OGE is, and how obscure an agency it is," Salamone said.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/government-ethi...
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#7911 Jul 2, 2013
ASPIH
Dont forget the 70 million in bonus's the IRS is getting for a job well done.

EVERY American should be outraged by the crap the IRS has pulled. Yet democrats see no problem with it.
It's time to abolish the IRS.And go with a flat or consumption tax.
We could save a shitload of money getting rid of a 100,000 gov jobs. And there wouldnt be any loopholes and EVERYONE would contribute.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#7912 Jul 2, 2013
And dont even get me started on the DHS under obama.
It's turned into that civilian army he wants so bad.

You know the one he said was going to be just as strong and well funded as the US military?

This guy is a loose cannon who's favorite two words are "executive order"

Unmitigated disaster.....

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#7916 Jul 3, 2013
PRISM-BREAK

Opt out of PRISM, the NSA's global data surveillance program.

Free alternatives to proprietary software.

http://prism-break.org/

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#7917 Jul 3, 2013
RESTORE THE FOURTH TO HOLD PROTESTS ON JULY 4TH FOR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS

Restore the Fourth is a grassroots, non-partisan, non-violent movement that seeks to organize and assemble nationwide protests on July 4th, 2013. Protesters in over 100 cities across America will gather to demand that the government of the United States of America adhere to its constitutionally dictated limits and respect the Fourth Amendment. http://www.RestoretheFourth.net provides a detailed list of protest locations.

HARTFORD, CT
BUSHNELL PARK OFF OF ELM STREET
JULY 4, 2013
8:00 AM

http://www.restorethefourth.net/
Sid

San Francisco, CA

#7919 Jul 3, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
Found some interesting info about Gang Stalking on Ask.com .
Couldn't figure out how to link it. Sorry.
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Thanks. The link didn't work. There were a few interesting posts about gang stalking on ask.com
Sid

San Francisco, CA

#7920 Jul 3, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny you mention that. Through all the years I've posted here I've never commented on it.
For some reason that one annoyed me.
I think it has to do with Democrats who seem to think it's the big bad Republicans who are responsible for GSing,and that obama is going to save them.
Obama sucks. As matter of fact he'll go down as the worst president in our history.
Yes I'm a Republican. But do I think the Republicans are going to save me from GSing? Not hardly.
Thats the problem with politics these days,people treat it like a football game. Pathetic.
Democrats are definitely into gang stalking. I'm pretty shocked by how the people who project as great humanitarian types, they seem to be the most likely to gang stalk.
Oregon Target

Roseburg, OR

#7922 Jul 3, 2013
Sid wrote:
<quoted text>
Democrats are definitely into gang stalking. I'm pretty shocked by how the people who project as great humanitarian types, they seem to be the most likely to gang stalk.
In the game of organized stalking, the offenders often will work into jobs or groups (political or other)which best disguise their true intentions. They will often display good intentions different or opposite to their true motives. The best cons in the game will work their way into law enforcement or political office to act as a gatekeeper for the others (criminals) they are trying to protect.

It is quite like a chess game with real people as pieces and positions in society as the squares. And if one starts too look bad, that person will be rotated out and someone else (probably also within the group) will be rotated in. Each time this happens, the replacement is designed to be a better fit for the task. However, it doesnt always work that way, and whenever someone looks dirty and has to make a run for it, it can cause a ripple up and down the network. And that is a good time to expose someone else if possible. Its always best to hit them when they are partly down. You cant make a bad person good. But if you make con artist criminals look like ordanary criminals, you have half way won just by doing that. And the game of organized stalking can be just as much fun for the targeted as for the offenders.
ptw

Homestead, FL

#7923 Jul 4, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
Every victim to OS/GS should consider reading this link information on wiretapping. I suggest taking a careful look at the data provided on these so called "legal" wiretaps. Considering the level of corruption, abuses, misconduct, violations and excesses by this same group of self-serving, self-regulated civil servant career employees, just think of full extent of obvious illegal, unwarranted and indiscriminate wiretaps and other abuses [gps] that are taking place.

And now recently we know through variable outside sources (provided in national news and linked sites), the level of out of control NSA activities violating privacy taking place for years, as is also obvious of all these other tied-in, networked (good-ole-boy) entities/agencies (local, county, state, federal). This data provides some idea of the far reaching real (and abusive, illegal) scope of this corruption taking place all across this land of ours, violating your civil/legal rights, liberties and privacy (cowardly and criminally [illegally] behind your backs)!
ptw

Homestead, FL

#7924 Jul 4, 2013
All OS/GS is based on all (civil servant involved) real violations to YOUR personal/professional privacy, civil/legal rights and liberties taking place for years before any overt stalking takes place.(There is no other entity capable of this scope of initiated and continued violations, other than civil servant).

All OS/GS is all based on (civil servant involved) real corruption (obstruction of justice, tampering), snaking its way through these tied-in, networked entities/agencies and organizations from your reporting and documenting as well as from ongoing illegal violations (wiretapping, mail tampering, gps tracking)!

All OS/GS is based on (civil servant involved) felony crimes/violations and everyone of it's participants ARE therefore real felony criminals! As victims, standing up for your family's rights, liberties, privacy, freedoms and safety are why I suggest YOU formally document it,(based on your individual experiences) at every level and continue to document it at every level in spite of the corruption (providing both a baseline and timeline of documentation to advance to other levels)!

This is one "solid" way (along with available research/data/information) you can individually determine the extent of this evolving, encompassing (civil servant) corruption including that of any politics involved! By formally working it, analyzing it, questioning it, challenging it, reasoning it out and putting it's enlightened pieces together!

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#7925 Jul 4, 2013
Persecutory delusion

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...

"Persecutory delusions are a delusional condition in which the affected person believes they are being persecuted. Specifically, they have been defined as containing two central elements:

1.The individual thinks that harm is occurring, or is going to occur.
2.The individual thinks that the perceived persecutor has the intention to cause harm.

According to the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the most common form of delusions in schizophrenia, where the person believes "he or she is being tormented, followed, tricked, spied on, or ridiculed." In the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the main feature of the persecutory type of delusional disorder. When the focus is to remedy some injustice by legal action, they are sometimes called "querulous paranoia".

In cases where reporters of stalking behavior have been judged to be making false reports, a majority of them were judged to be delusional.

If the delusion results in imprisonment or involuntary commitment, the person may feel justified in this belief."
in the know

Kunming, China

#7926 Jul 4, 2013
Hey

Yes,'Gang Stalking','Community Mobbing','Workplace Mobbing' etc There are a few names jumping around. Basically, this is the harassment program created by the Elite families (I use Elite as that's what they call themselves, but they are the filth of humanity). Basically, using Freemasonry, including Jehovah witness, scientology, Mormons etc (the weak needy people)They are trying to harass people they know that will stand up to them. They Use car headlights on in the daytime as their main method. All it is is a few cars are tracking you on GPS or by foot/visual and they will drive with the lights on and most of the other cars have no idea they are targeting someone specifically, but simply turn on their lights when they get a text to do so. Thus giving an illusion that they are all watching/following you. Also, when you are driving they actually follow you without headlights on. These cars will have cameras on the back of the rear view mirror. Some will carry targeting weapons that heat you up while you drive. They will not have their lights on. They will try to get you in the traffic, and fire when safe to do so.If you keep moving they will not use it, so change lanes. The EU is actually trying to take over via the same Nazi and old USSR tactics. They are trying to remove opposition. The EU is basically the Nazi EEC.The same plan to unite europe under 1 nazi controlled Europe and head towards the NWO (New world order. The EU has tried to remove this by making only recent laws that new cars should have daylight lights. This however is pathetic as they can't account for all bikes and older cars 2010 models having their lights on. Nice try but you have fallen flat on you dumb ass! Also, these lights are only on and all turn off once the target is indoors.

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#7927 Jul 4, 2013
Pseudoscience

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...

"Pseudoscience is a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but does not adhere to a valid scientific method, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status. Pseudoscience is often characterized by the use of vague, contradictory, exaggerated or unprovable claims, an over-reliance on confirmation rather than rigorous attempts at refutation, a lack of openness to evaluation by other experts, and a general absence of systematic processes to rationally develop theories."

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#7928 Jul 4, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
Persecutory delusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...
"Persecutory delusions are a delusional condition in which the affected person believes they are being persecuted. Specifically, they have been defined as containing two central elements:
1.The individual thinks that harm is occurring, or is going to occur.
2.The individual thinks that the perceived persecutor has the intention to cause harm.
According to the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the most common form of delusions in schizophrenia, where the person believes "he or she is being tormented, followed, tricked, spied on, or ridiculed." In the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the main feature of the persecutory type of delusional disorder. When the focus is to remedy some injustice by legal action, they are sometimes called "querulous paranoia".
In cases where reporters of stalking behavior have been judged to be making false reports, a majority of them were judged to be delusional.
If the delusion results in imprisonment or involuntary commitment, the person may feel justified in this belief."
Point well taken, Hektor 7.
However, anybody's delusion does not change history or reality. Hitler used organized stalking practices.(if you dont believe that, ask anyone from Jewish descent)White supremacy groups have used organized stalking practices.(look up history of the Ku Klux Klan)
So have groups like Rajneeshies. It is documented. It is fact.
People who claim to be organized stalking victims simply are suggesting that these same types (or similar) tactics have been used on them. If you are interested in learning more, I would suggest you contact Michael Hastings. But he sort of died in a firey crash. There was video on youtube, but the last I checked, It was removed or no longer available.

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#7929 Jul 4, 2013
twilightzone_1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Point well taken, Hektor 7.
However, anybody's delusion does not change history or reality. Hitler used organized stalking practices.(if you dont believe that, ask anyone from Jewish descent)White supremacy groups have used organized stalking practices.(look up history of the Ku Klux Klan)
So have groups like Rajneeshies. It is documented. It is fact.
People who claim to be organized stalking victims simply are suggesting that these same types (or similar) tactics have been used on them. If you are interested in learning more, I would suggest you contact Michael Hastings. But he sort of died in a firey crash. There was video on youtube, but the last I checked, It was removed or no longer available.
Understanding Madmen: A DSM-IV
Assessment of Adolf Hitler

Discussion

http://www.uccs.edu/~faculty/fcoolidg/Hitler%...

Page 12

"The main hypothesis was that Hitler would have been diagnosed with schizophrenia, paranoid
type. Although it was not his highest Axis I elevation, the mean consensus T score for the
Schizophrenia scale was nearly two standard deviations above the normative mean. Hitler’s
clinical elevations on the Psychotic Thinking and Paranoid scales also support this diagnosis. It
could, of course, be questioned whether someone with a schizophrenic disorder could rise to such
a high position of power and control of others, given that schizophrenia is generally such a
debilitating disease, particularly socially and occupationally. However, there are other
documented cases of murderous schizophrenic persons who have had extraordinary influence on
groups of others (e.g., Charles Manson, James Jones, etc.)
Examination of the current DSM-IV criteria for schizophrenia, paranoid type, also support
this diagnosis. It lists symptoms such as preoccupation with one or more persecutory or grandiose
delusions usually organized around a coherent theme."
ptw

Homestead, FL

#7930 Jul 4, 2013
Are politics involved in OS/GS? Seems more and more likely that it is considering how an obvious national (secret) program (as is evident by its obstruction/tampering) of OS/GS crimes/violations assaulting others has been in existence over decades.

And especially now that we've been informed of congressional / agency interaction behind closed doors developing secret law. And of confirming DOJ personnel developed and DHS implemented sheriff association/neighborhood watch TIPS programs supposedly implemented at terrorists; instead as it seems abusively adapted toward indiscriminate, illegally and unwarranted violations of privacy/civil rights/liberties of ordinary Americans for kicks, vendettas, reprisals (reporting corruption) and the sadistic, demented sport of it!(OS/GS come to mind for victims?)

Both "parties" appear to oppose "violations" at the same time they support them (as any two example links below can suggest), my question is who (representatives) knew what, about abusively implemented OS/GS terrorizing of ordinary Americans by civil servant cops/police/enforcement?
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President George W. Bush told CNN that National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden “damaged the country,” but defended the PRISM surveillance program that his administration launched.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/01/bush-talks-...
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Sunday, outspoken Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson of Florida, criticized the NSA and said Snowden’s disclosures had brought troubling behavior to light.
read more: http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/06/30/congressman-al...
Mru486

Walnut Creek, CA

#7931 Jul 4, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
Persecutory delusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...
"Persecutory delusions are a delusional condition in which the affected person believes they are being persecuted. Specifically, they have been defined as containing two central elements:
1.The individual thinks that harm is occurring, or is going to occur.
2.The individual thinks that the perceived persecutor has the intention to cause harm.
According to the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the most common form of delusions in schizophrenia, where the person believes "he or she is being tormented, followed, tricked, spied on, or ridiculed." In the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the main feature of the persecutory type of delusional disorder. When the focus is to remedy some injustice by legal action, they are sometimes called "querulous paranoia".
In cases where reporters of stalking behavior have been judged to be making false reports, a majority of them were judged to be delusional.
If the delusion results in imprisonment or involuntary commitment, the person may feel justified in this belief."
Psychiatry is a pseudoscience. If a patient asks a psychiatrist how the meds for treating delusions works, the psychiatrist will have to tell the patient he/she doesn't know. The shrink will then probably refer to studies. In fact, the studies now show that antidepressant and anti psychotics have the same cure rate as placebos. This may be because the meds are over prescribed to people who aren't really sick.
Psychiatrists work closely with the police, as do the insurance companies. Oe therapist I went to had me sign a paper stating that the FBI can ask to look at my medical records any time they want and she will be required not to tell me.
So, you tell me, mentor, who's the sick sh!t in this equation?

Since: Dec 09

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#7932 Jul 4, 2013
Mru486 wrote:
<quoted text>
Psychiatry is a pseudoscience. If a patient asks a psychiatrist how the meds for treating delusions works, the psychiatrist will have to tell the patient he/she doesn't know. The shrink will then probably refer to studies. In fact, the studies now show that antidepressant and anti psychotics have the same cure rate as placebos. This may be because the meds are over prescribed to people who aren't really sick.
Psychiatrists work closely with the police, as do the insurance companies. Oe therapist I went to had me sign a paper stating that the FBI can ask to look at my medical records any time they want and she will be required not to tell me.
So, you tell me, mentor, who's the sick sh!t in this equation?
Giving up is not the best way to solve a problem.

"Cognitive therapy has shown promise as an emerging treatment for delusions. The cognitive therapist tries to capitalize on any doubt the individual has about the delusions; then attempts to develop a joint effort with the sufferer to generate alternative explanations, assisting the client in checking the evidence. This examination proceeds in favor of the various explanations. Much of the work is done by use of empathy, asking hypothetical questions in a form of therapeutic Socratic dialogue—a process that follows a basic question and answer format, figuring out what is known and unknown before reaching a logical conclusion. Combining pharmacotherapy with cognitive therapy integrates both treating the possible underlying biological problems and decreasing the symptoms with psychotherapy."

Read more: http://www.minddisorders.com/Br-Del/Delusiona...

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