Since: Sep 12

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#7720 Jun 15, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
<quoted text>
Word salad is not about specific words. It's about an unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases. It may describe a symptom of mental conditions in which a person attempts to communicate an idea, but words and phrases that may appear to be random and unrelated come out in an incoherent sequence instead. Often, the person is unaware that he or she did not make sense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad
When PTW used the term "word salad" I think PTW was refering to some of the posts which I wrote. PTW mashed key phrases together which I used in my posts. I could say that hurt my feelings, but it really didnt. I just accept it as "destructive criticism".

Because I follow the forum daily, I do have a sense of what Ptw is saying, however. And I often agree.

TZ_1

Since: Dec 09

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#7721 Jun 15, 2013
Get A Clue wrote:
Hektor Seven wrote:
<quoted text>
Word salad is not about specific words. It's about an unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases. It may describe a symptom of mental conditions in which a person attempts to communicate an idea, but words and phrases that may appear to be random and unrelated come out in an incoherent sequence instead. Often, the person is unaware that he or she did not make sense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad
Yes, you moron.
It's called aphasia. Usually, associated with Alzheimer's disease or other related conditions of dementia.
Actually, the mental condition 'word salad' refers to schizophrenia.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.c...

Thank you for trying to insult me, but if you have been following this forum you would know insults are useless.

Have a nice day, anyway!
FormerLAer

La Crosse, WI

#7722 Jun 15, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, the mental condition 'word salad' refers to schizophrenia.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.c...
Thank you for trying to insult me, but if you have been following this forum you would know insults are useless.
Have a nice day, anyway!
Who is paying you to post here? I've noticed that a lot of ugly, older men participate in gangstalking.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7723 Jun 15, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, the mental condition 'word salad' refers to schizophrenia.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.c...
Thank you for trying to insult me, but if you have been following this forum you would know insults are useless.
Have a nice day, anyway!
On a different tone.. I would like to thank you for starting this forum, Hektor. And I appologize for mis-spelling your name (or screen name) in an earilier post. The forum gives many people a chance to put their ideas up and discuss their views.
You may think this is all delusional.

But the reality (or lack thereof) regarding organized stalking has nothing to do with the perceptions of it. If it exists, then it does so whether anyone believes in it or not. And conversely, if it doesn't exist, then it also does so regardless of the perceptions of anyone. What I am trying to get at is that you may dismiss people who you may think are schizophrenic. Perhaps you could determine that many people who believe in organized stalking are schizophrenic. But you still havent disproved that organized stalking does exist.

Do I believe in it? Yes, you know I do. Also, ask any black person who lived during segregation. I am sure thay might have an opinion. You see, Hektor, there are real examples of this. They might just not be the examples that the skeptic, or the advocate would like.
xyz

Lincoln, NE

#7724 Jun 15, 2013
From what i've studyed from abnormal psychology there are 2 things that make a person crazy. 1 is pyhsical & the other is social or psycological. Alzhimers or a brain tumor are physical. Schizoprenea bipolar disorders depresion are general caused by social psycological interactions being abused especially as a child but sometime as a adult. Althought physical changes occur in the body after the psycholgical illnes ocurs. thats why psycotropic drugs can bring them back sometimes

Its ironic that the whole point to being gangstalked is to drive someone insane, & a insane person is a discredited person,

I may be wrong on a few things I think thats it.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#7725 Jun 15, 2013
twilightzone_1 wrote:
<quoted text>
On a different tone.. I would like to thank you for starting this forum, Hektor. And I appologize for mis-spelling your name (or screen name) in an earilier post. The forum gives many people a chance to put their ideas up and discuss their views.
You may think this is all delusional.
But the reality (or lack thereof) regarding organized stalking has nothing to do with the perceptions of it. If it exists, then it does so whether anyone believes in it or not. And conversely, if it doesn't exist, then it also does so regardless of the perceptions of anyone. What I am trying to get at is that you may dismiss people who you may think are schizophrenic. Perhaps you could determine that many people who believe in organized stalking are schizophrenic. But you still havent disproved that organized stalking does exist.
Do I believe in it? Yes, you know I do. Also, ask any black person who lived during segregation. I am sure thay might have an opinion. You see, Hektor, there are real examples of this. They might just not be the examples that the skeptic, or the advocate would like.
Segregation is the result of racism and does not support your argument. To use a lack of evidence to support your argument is a fallacy better known as an 'Argument from ignorance'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ig...

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xyz

Lincoln, NE

#7726 Jun 15, 2013
Racism is a specialized type of prejudgment, prejudgement can apply to anyone, prejudice, persicution, takes many forms.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7727 Jun 15, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
<quoted text>
Segregation is the result of racism and does not support your argument. To use a lack of evidence to support your argument is a fallacy better known as an 'Argument from ignorance'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ig...
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Perhaps, but a black PERSON who lived through segregation might just be in support of my arguement.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7728 Jun 15, 2013
First off, your resident cyberstalking dirty cop is not defending word salad, read this perverted deviant's previous posts starting somewhere around pg.132 (or sooner), this is typically what he's called others "charlatans" over!

So what is the resident dirty cop deceptively attempting to take your attention from; the rest of the post obviously:

Real OS/GS victimized families may want to consider searching these current, hot topics:
spying on citizens,
spying on u.s. citizens
spying on americans
spying on american citizens
NSA violations
secret law
Fisa court

OS/GS is all about "real" crimes/violations taking place everyday behind your family's and friend's backs!

These felony violations are what's behind all OS/GS crimes, corruption and cover up, and how it's been implemented ! All illegal !(and as you'll notice, from the searches above, some people are getting upset enough to file class action suits against those providing data to the NSA).

If you're a "real" victim to OS/GS think what's practical towards protecting your privacy:

For instance at home: turn off cell phones, un-plug home phones, turn power off "to" cable box and "turn up" your radios (place cell in front of speakers); careful of internet and email entrapment, and in my view formally document and report any and all levels of identified and ongoing violations taking place against your family to establish both a baseline and timeline of victimization (knowing you'll be further victimized, violated, obstructed and tampered with by the very agencies you report to)!
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7729 Jun 15, 2013
twilightzone_1 wrote:
<quoted text>
When PTW used the term "word salad" I think PTW was refering to some of the posts which I wrote. PTW mashed key phrases together which I used in my posts. I could say that hurt my feelings, but it really didnt. I just accept it as "destructive criticism".
Because I follow the forum daily, I do have a sense of what Ptw is saying, however. And I often agree.
TZ_1
No offense intended!
This word salad stuff shows up all the time. And it's the same conjecture of unfounded stuff!
Yours was just formulated in a tight package, If you look back, you'll find the same or similar stuff!

But here's the problem: if you've been a victim for 15yrs+ as our family; report everything to this "menagerie" of so called civil servant/enforcement, entities/agencies (local, county, state, federal), only to encounter continuous instantaneous, sadistic and demented attacks over years based on or adapted solely from all your formal letters; you pretty much have nailed this corruption, deception, manipulation, obstruction of justice, investigative tampering, felony crimes/violations/assaults etc., etc., OS/GS to the wall!

The other pieces just keep falling into place, a.k.a. sadistic, demented and perverted criminals within the military, transitioning into civil servant enforcement (2/3 makeup) engage in the same level of OS/GS crimes now targeting the naive, unsuspecting and defenseless public!
Mru486

San Francisco, CA

#7731 Jun 15, 2013
A guy called into last nights Coast to Coast show and related a story about organized stalking. He said he was law enforcement. I can't remember his relationship with the target, i think sister or sister in law? She was stalked for 6-7 years and then killed herself. It was on the open lines portion of the show. Story sounded convincing, but probably not real. Cnn has a story about parents of a deceased navy seal who are suing because their phones were tapped by the military. Thanks to all these leaks. Yay for edward snowden.

Speaking of wordsalad, im pretty certain that there isspyware that can trash a persons spellcheck on apple programs.
Mru486

San Francisco, CA

#7732 Jun 15, 2013
Are you guys all a bunch of defense contractors sitting in the mv public library looking for people to harass?
US Tyranny

New York, NY

#7733 Jun 16, 2013
Ed Snowden: HERO.
Mru486

Union City, CA

#7734 Jun 16, 2013
Q&A from yahoo questions. Yahoo and google don't know anything about gang stalking of course.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
Mru486

Union City, CA

#7735 Jun 16, 2013
US Tyranny wrote:
Ed Snowden: HERO.
I loves him very very much and hope that he will be ok.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7736 Jun 17, 2013
ptw wrote:
<quoted text>
No offense intended!....(edited)
But here's the problem: if you've been a victim for 15yrs+ as our family; report everything to this "menagerie" of so called civil servant/enforcement, entities/agencies (local, county, state, federal), only to encounter continuous instantaneous, sadistic and demented attacks over years based on or adapted solely from all your formal letters; you pretty much have nailed this corruption, deception, manipulation, obstruction of justice, investigative tampering, felony crimes/violations/assaults etc., etc., OS/GS to the wall!....(edited)
I've been there. I saw the pattern early and started a more "soft approach" when I was voiceing my opinion.(at least when talking to people who I was not sure would be simpathitic.) I have also learned to profile people somewhat to see if they will be open before I go into too many details. And I am getting pretty good at it I think.
One thing I found out is that alot of people will seem to agree, and then they do a drastic mood or personality change and flip backwards. That used to alarm me, but now I almost enjoy watching it. I believe I have actually observed a true personality change in another person several times.(as in true multiple personality disorder). And I began to wonder...could some of the "unexplainable" events reguarding organized stalking be related to a multiple personality disorder in these groups of people. This disorder is hard to understand in an individual.
But to think of it in relation to a social network is mind-boggling.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7737 Jun 18, 2013
twilightzone_1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I've been there. I saw the pattern early and started a more "soft approach"..........
Hope the "soft approach" is better than the "helter skelter" approach (no offense)!

Your approach should provide you with a sound foundation though vs. one that takes you all over the place! If you're a victim over years, maybe a decade or more as many, I'd guess at some time, floundering is being replaced with conviction; tried, true and tested!

As example, I approach OS/GS simply by paying attention to "real" crimes/violations/assaults and challenging obvious [organized scheming] corruption, obstruction and tampering behind it all! And based on my last/recent posts, and current news events, I'd say my foundation/conviction has strengthened.(I've re-posted beginning 5 from approx. 1, 1/2 years ago to compare).
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7738 Jun 18, 2013
ptw wrote:
what I've learned about gangstalking over the years is that it's a civil servant originating crime, based on the blatant violation of your and everyone's personal/professional privacy, that's why enforcement does nothing about it. It's a tool abeit an illegal tool and stalking is it's holy grail of retaliating and victimizing harassment , that's why nothing is done about this obvious crime. Gang stalking is a felony crime based of the complete violations (constitutional/civil/legal rights, liberties and freedoms) of it's citizens from an obvious illicit network [local, county, state, federal] of corruption that's gone amuck, and has filtered down to the lowest common level of area enforcement (households/families/friends/c ommunity informants/snitches, established connections to services/alliance personnel, watch/explorer groups (bullies/thugs/misfits) and even homeowner assoc. Gang stalking can no longer be controlled because it's so pervasive and these common criminals/assailants need to work somewhere, the locations all of us shop/visit etc. Gangstalking doesn't operate in a vacuum, it's an organized scheming crime, and these "perps" are not what organizes this corruption, they're the long established, illicit medium from which it applies the assaults based on the ongoing violations of privacy [eavesdropping/wiretapping [home, phone, internet], tampering [mail/faxes, refuse] and tracking [cellphone, GPS] all illegal, all unwarranted and all carried out by a common, subversive network of corruption. Gang stalking is a combination of felony crimes/violations/assaults and should be addressed, acted upon and approached and reported as such.
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ptw

Orlando, FL

#7739 Jun 18, 2013
ptw wrote:
Gang stalking is all about felony violations of "civilian's families" privacy/civil rts/liberties and the obstruction of justice implemented in the suppression of a victim's efforts toward reporting this national atrocity of corruption and felony crimes which also makes it a whistleblower hate/reprisal crime. Gang stalking is a national crime, documented/recognized by the Justice Department, and obstructed as well at every level to the point of obsurbity, deception, manipulation, misleading, misinformation, recycling of victims between entities/departments, bogus off the mark responses, phone attempts toward closure and the catch all, "unresponsiveness". The actual physical gang stalking you and everyone experiences comes about after years of violations to every aspect of your personal/professional privacy, cowardly and illegally behind your and your family's back. It's a felony crime targeting it's nation's naive, unsuspecting and defenseless citizens behind their backs, and what makes it all possible, the illegal use of the latest development of sophiscated technologies and especially wireless and communicative (digital, massive informational capability) technologies, cellphones, GPS and even digital TV set top boxes, industries that all have been approached by your federal governmental agencies to instill capabilities into their software/hardware to allow for eavesdropping/wiretapping/reco rding,(search eavesdropping, wiretapping, surveillance on the internet.) Gang stalking does not exist in a vacuum, it's an organized scheming, controlled violation on the public, enhanced by not your paranoia but by that of federal governments, and their attempts in trying to stay ahead of the game (terrorism). Unfortunately the very individuals exposed to using these levels of violations exit the military and get jobs in the only place, many of them can or are guaranteed, local, county, state, federal civil servant service/enforcement, and that's where is continues to be a problem for their neighbors and other unsuspecting citizens.
2nd post on pg134
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7740 Jun 18, 2013
ptw wrote:
Once again, gang stalking does not exist in a vacuum, it's a combination of controlling, "networked" [local, county, state, federal] felony crimes/violations/assaults that have been around for a long time. I believe Eleanor White reviewed a book published in 2001 by David Lawson "Organized Stalking in America". I believe Mr. Lawson was a private detective and his book was based on 12 years of investigations on this crime. Which means this felony crime has been around for longer than 2 decades. Which means it's also had a lot of time to perfect it's crimes, violations, assauts and tactics, methods, capabilities, effectiveness and adaptiveness, instantaneous adaptiveness due to these same advances in technology (cyber stalking, portable cellphone/conversations, texting). Gang stalking as I've leaned is also known as group/gang vengeance (whistleblower crime), domestic terrorism/surveillance and one of it's techniques is psychological terrorism/stalking assaults. Now where do you think this atrocitiy was developed as a psychological tool from which to engage in by these toothless, low social economic pinheads/bullies/thugs common criminals, victims encounter. Certainly not by these visual assailants (watch/informants/snitches/thu gs/bullies) but from organized scheming networks of professionally designed, tested and proven corruption; [local, county, state, federal] civil servants/enforcement/ex-milita ry? And were does this group reside, in your community as civil servants/postal/emergency techs/enforcement, as retired civil servants, families/relatives/friends, contacts, accomplices and alliances of these individuals (parents, siblings, spouses, children). Again Gang stalking is an organized felony crime made possible from misconduct, misfeasance,and abuses (position, influence, authority, duties, office, access to resources/technologies/service s/alliances/groups possible only through illegal, unwarranted and continuous violations to citizen's personal privacy, rights/liberties/freedoms and perpetuated through lying, manipulation, deception, gamesmanship, brinksmenship denial of equal access, protection and representation to the law and justice (oppression, suppression and obstruction). Gang stalking is a combination of felony crimes violations, framing, aiding and abetting, entrapment, tracking, leaking/feedback/dissemination of incriminating information supplied by victims back to assailants, tampering [investigative, evidence, witnesses] and illegal coaching/advising of criminal behaviors/crimes/ tactics. Gang stalking is a combination of all of these felony crimes/violations/assaults and more, and should be addressed and reported to federal authorities as such.
3rd post on pg134

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