Mru486

San Francisco, CA

#7732 Jun 15, 2013
Are you guys all a bunch of defense contractors sitting in the mv public library looking for people to harass?
US Tyranny

New York, NY

#7733 Jun 16, 2013
Ed Snowden: HERO.
Mru486

Union City, CA

#7734 Jun 16, 2013
Q&A from yahoo questions. Yahoo and google don't know anything about gang stalking of course.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
Mru486

Union City, CA

#7735 Jun 16, 2013
US Tyranny wrote:
Ed Snowden: HERO.
I loves him very very much and hope that he will be ok.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7736 Jun 17, 2013
ptw wrote:
<quoted text>
No offense intended!....(edited)
But here's the problem: if you've been a victim for 15yrs+ as our family; report everything to this "menagerie" of so called civil servant/enforcement, entities/agencies (local, county, state, federal), only to encounter continuous instantaneous, sadistic and demented attacks over years based on or adapted solely from all your formal letters; you pretty much have nailed this corruption, deception, manipulation, obstruction of justice, investigative tampering, felony crimes/violations/assaults etc., etc., OS/GS to the wall!....(edited)
I've been there. I saw the pattern early and started a more "soft approach" when I was voiceing my opinion.(at least when talking to people who I was not sure would be simpathitic.) I have also learned to profile people somewhat to see if they will be open before I go into too many details. And I am getting pretty good at it I think.
One thing I found out is that alot of people will seem to agree, and then they do a drastic mood or personality change and flip backwards. That used to alarm me, but now I almost enjoy watching it. I believe I have actually observed a true personality change in another person several times.(as in true multiple personality disorder). And I began to wonder...could some of the "unexplainable" events reguarding organized stalking be related to a multiple personality disorder in these groups of people. This disorder is hard to understand in an individual.
But to think of it in relation to a social network is mind-boggling.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7737 Jun 18, 2013
twilightzone_1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I've been there. I saw the pattern early and started a more "soft approach"..........
Hope the "soft approach" is better than the "helter skelter" approach (no offense)!

Your approach should provide you with a sound foundation though vs. one that takes you all over the place! If you're a victim over years, maybe a decade or more as many, I'd guess at some time, floundering is being replaced with conviction; tried, true and tested!

As example, I approach OS/GS simply by paying attention to "real" crimes/violations/assaults and challenging obvious [organized scheming] corruption, obstruction and tampering behind it all! And based on my last/recent posts, and current news events, I'd say my foundation/conviction has strengthened.(I've re-posted beginning 5 from approx. 1, 1/2 years ago to compare).
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7738 Jun 18, 2013
ptw wrote:
what I've learned about gangstalking over the years is that it's a civil servant originating crime, based on the blatant violation of your and everyone's personal/professional privacy, that's why enforcement does nothing about it. It's a tool abeit an illegal tool and stalking is it's holy grail of retaliating and victimizing harassment , that's why nothing is done about this obvious crime. Gang stalking is a felony crime based of the complete violations (constitutional/civil/legal rights, liberties and freedoms) of it's citizens from an obvious illicit network [local, county, state, federal] of corruption that's gone amuck, and has filtered down to the lowest common level of area enforcement (households/families/friends/c ommunity informants/snitches, established connections to services/alliance personnel, watch/explorer groups (bullies/thugs/misfits) and even homeowner assoc. Gang stalking can no longer be controlled because it's so pervasive and these common criminals/assailants need to work somewhere, the locations all of us shop/visit etc. Gangstalking doesn't operate in a vacuum, it's an organized scheming crime, and these "perps" are not what organizes this corruption, they're the long established, illicit medium from which it applies the assaults based on the ongoing violations of privacy [eavesdropping/wiretapping [home, phone, internet], tampering [mail/faxes, refuse] and tracking [cellphone, GPS] all illegal, all unwarranted and all carried out by a common, subversive network of corruption. Gang stalking is a combination of felony crimes/violations/assaults and should be addressed, acted upon and approached and reported as such.
post 1
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7739 Jun 18, 2013
ptw wrote:
Gang stalking is all about felony violations of "civilian's families" privacy/civil rts/liberties and the obstruction of justice implemented in the suppression of a victim's efforts toward reporting this national atrocity of corruption and felony crimes which also makes it a whistleblower hate/reprisal crime. Gang stalking is a national crime, documented/recognized by the Justice Department, and obstructed as well at every level to the point of obsurbity, deception, manipulation, misleading, misinformation, recycling of victims between entities/departments, bogus off the mark responses, phone attempts toward closure and the catch all, "unresponsiveness". The actual physical gang stalking you and everyone experiences comes about after years of violations to every aspect of your personal/professional privacy, cowardly and illegally behind your and your family's back. It's a felony crime targeting it's nation's naive, unsuspecting and defenseless citizens behind their backs, and what makes it all possible, the illegal use of the latest development of sophiscated technologies and especially wireless and communicative (digital, massive informational capability) technologies, cellphones, GPS and even digital TV set top boxes, industries that all have been approached by your federal governmental agencies to instill capabilities into their software/hardware to allow for eavesdropping/wiretapping/reco rding,(search eavesdropping, wiretapping, surveillance on the internet.) Gang stalking does not exist in a vacuum, it's an organized scheming, controlled violation on the public, enhanced by not your paranoia but by that of federal governments, and their attempts in trying to stay ahead of the game (terrorism). Unfortunately the very individuals exposed to using these levels of violations exit the military and get jobs in the only place, many of them can or are guaranteed, local, county, state, federal civil servant service/enforcement, and that's where is continues to be a problem for their neighbors and other unsuspecting citizens.
2nd post on pg134
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7740 Jun 18, 2013
ptw wrote:
Once again, gang stalking does not exist in a vacuum, it's a combination of controlling, "networked" [local, county, state, federal] felony crimes/violations/assaults that have been around for a long time. I believe Eleanor White reviewed a book published in 2001 by David Lawson "Organized Stalking in America". I believe Mr. Lawson was a private detective and his book was based on 12 years of investigations on this crime. Which means this felony crime has been around for longer than 2 decades. Which means it's also had a lot of time to perfect it's crimes, violations, assauts and tactics, methods, capabilities, effectiveness and adaptiveness, instantaneous adaptiveness due to these same advances in technology (cyber stalking, portable cellphone/conversations, texting). Gang stalking as I've leaned is also known as group/gang vengeance (whistleblower crime), domestic terrorism/surveillance and one of it's techniques is psychological terrorism/stalking assaults. Now where do you think this atrocitiy was developed as a psychological tool from which to engage in by these toothless, low social economic pinheads/bullies/thugs common criminals, victims encounter. Certainly not by these visual assailants (watch/informants/snitches/thu gs/bullies) but from organized scheming networks of professionally designed, tested and proven corruption; [local, county, state, federal] civil servants/enforcement/ex-milita ry? And were does this group reside, in your community as civil servants/postal/emergency techs/enforcement, as retired civil servants, families/relatives/friends, contacts, accomplices and alliances of these individuals (parents, siblings, spouses, children). Again Gang stalking is an organized felony crime made possible from misconduct, misfeasance,and abuses (position, influence, authority, duties, office, access to resources/technologies/service s/alliances/groups possible only through illegal, unwarranted and continuous violations to citizen's personal privacy, rights/liberties/freedoms and perpetuated through lying, manipulation, deception, gamesmanship, brinksmenship denial of equal access, protection and representation to the law and justice (oppression, suppression and obstruction). Gang stalking is a combination of felony crimes violations, framing, aiding and abetting, entrapment, tracking, leaking/feedback/dissemination of incriminating information supplied by victims back to assailants, tampering [investigative, evidence, witnesses] and illegal coaching/advising of criminal behaviors/crimes/ tactics. Gang stalking is a combination of all of these felony crimes/violations/assaults and more, and should be addressed and reported to federal authorities as such.
3rd post on pg134
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7741 Jun 18, 2013
ptw wrote:
Gang stalking is a heinous crime from within by what appears to be a culture of pure corruption [local, county, state, federal] that has permeated the very entities/agencies that are to protect the rights of citizens, instead illicitly protecting this atrocity. Gang stalking is a universal crime, a national crime a systemic crime that is nothing less than an assault on Democratic values, beliefs, trust, privacy, rights, libertries and freedoms through gross vioations to constitutional rights and provisions to the Patriot/Privacy/Safe Acts and should be documented as such. Without documenting this corruption, you hold no one accountable, culpable and responsible. Documenting this corruption also establishes an individuals timeline specific to formally addressing this corruption/violations/obstruct ion/felony crimes by the very act of reporting this corruption to state and federal authorities. Documenting this corruption allows victims at each and every opportunity to further inquire, question and investigate why nothing is being done about this corruption, to learn about how this corruption is obstructively handled, neglected and exposes patterned practices of depraved indifference, in essence obstruction/delay/denial of justice to documented federal/felony crimes/violations/assaults. This corruption is perpetuated by the cowardly violation of every aspect of your personal privacy, whose sole, only intent is to engage in anonymously, cowardly defamation campaigns, staged/manufactured crimes, false/fraudulent reports/filings to terrorize, harm and jeopardise vicrtim's lives, safety and security. No one has that right. If you've encountered a constant pattern of assaults (all based on violations to your privacy/liberties/rights) also in response to your reporting this corruption (Whistleblower hate crimes), then document this to the locations in which these crimes occur. Over time, document this corruption to corporate, and eventually since these locations are now being use in the commission of federal crimes/violations/assaults, document and report individuals you believe knowledgeable to and or participating in these felony crimes. Without this documentation, you have nothing to carry you to the next level, you just remain a victim to felony crimes/violations/assaults targeting and threatening your families lives, safety and security. Again, gang stalking in a national,(USDOJ documented) felony crime and should be identified and reported as such (with all due respect).
post 4 on page 134 (apparently can only post 1 reply) other 1st five posts on are this page for review though for consistency!
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7742 Jun 18, 2013
ptw wrote:
I base my accounts on over a decade of first learning our mail was being tampered with, which we documented and reported, which then lead to lying, covering up this federal crime and eventually to obstruction of justice and investigative tampering by no less than a Postal Special Agent all reported and documented. Yes, we encounter multiple steps of depraved indifference to blatant, obvious physical (mail tampering) federal crimes, but it's documeted with names of individuals competing in this corruption and it has been repeatedly, formally documented with the US Post Office Inspector General. This lead to the discovery of refuse tampering, eavesdropping (phone) and wiretapping on internet service and subsequent hacking/entrapment crimes flooding into accounts. Without pursuing this corruption your just left with guessing vs. putting things together and identifying the levels of corruption/and individuals participating in this corruption/violations (such as the constant hacking into our computer as is evident by the obstruction to typing this information). Beyond just eavesdropping we identified the interception of phone calls to both the
ACLU and the FBI, pertending to be lawyers and switchboard operators, and the placing of phone calls to those entities/individuals we're on the phone with, only to encounter sudden change of attitude by threats and abuse of power/authority/influence to not cooperate with our efforts to inquire into this corruption. All now documented with authorities, who although deceive/lie/manipulate at every step of the way, we have formally, on record documented. We have now encountered and documented obstruction of investigations into employment crime and financial crime/identify theft to add to violations of our personal/legal/medical privacy, rights and privileges as well document this latest computer hacking. No one can say there is not a documented timeline to this felony corruption on record to the District Attorney, U. S. Attorney, Governor, State Attorney General, U.S. Department of Justice, FBI, Office of Inspector General and U.S. Post Office. We've now documented over a 100 letters/attachments to each totaling over a 1000 pgs combined.
5th post on pg134 (apparently now they all show up)??
Sandy

San Jose, CA

#7743 Jun 19, 2013
Read the first comment by thunder on this article about connection between the NSA spying and google.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/18/technology/se...
Sandy

Santa Clara, CA

#7746 Jun 19, 2013
The newscaster on CNN just announced that they are about to report on people who are targeted with ray guns!
Sandy

Oakland, CA

#7747 Jun 19, 2013
2 men have been accused of trying to build a device which could be mounted on a truck and silently radiate pele they dnt like. They don't like people who don't like Israelis. They both work in electronics. Their names are in the article. I not going to mention them in case this is another bogus news story. They were arrested in towns in New York.

http://m.upi.com/story/UPI-22601371672220/

Cnn is also running another version of the story.
Split ends

Oakland, CA

#7748 Jun 19, 2013
Here's a good video on huffington post live. They say this is possibly a situation where the FBI was goading the two guys into trying to build the machine, kind of like how most of the people on these fora are phoney.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/glen... .

I guess the gang stalking does come from India. It's a typical form of social control to silence people who speak out against the caste system which has been in place for 6000 years and is the reason why India is such a joy ride.. Now theyve brought this ancient tradition to the u.s. and to california in particular because, hey, we just almost got rid of the kkk in california and were looking for a new dachau.. Meanwhile, Bradley manning and Edward snowden have risked their lives trying to protect the country.

And the FBI set these 2 nuts up so they could have a story to discredit electronic warfare. How much did the u.sl spend on this? Maybe some news outlets could provide information about real microwave warfare weaponry which members of the military possibly use on their neighbors. Wouldn't that be a kick?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/glen...
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#7749 Jun 20, 2013
Split ends wrote:
Here's a good video on huffington post live. They say this is possibly a situation where the FBI was goading the two guys into trying to build the machine, kind of like how most of the people on these fora are phoney.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/glen... .
I guess the gang stalking does come from India. It's a typical form of social control to silence people who speak out against the caste system which has been in place for 6000 years and is the reason why India is such a joy ride.. Now theyve brought this ancient tradition to the u.s. and to california in particular because, hey, we just almost got rid of the kkk in california and were looking for a new dachau.. Meanwhile, Bradley manning and Edward snowden have risked their lives trying to protect the country.
And the FBI set these 2 nuts up so they could have a story to discredit electronic warfare. How much did the u.sl spend on this? Maybe some news outlets could provide information about real microwave warfare weaponry which members of the military possibly use on their neighbors. Wouldn't that be a kick?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/glen...
Not so sure why you would think this is a bad thing.
It brings to light the idea that it can be done.
If criminals are attempting to do this,how many of them succeeded in their endeavor and didnt get caught?
ANYTHING that makes this look like a problem is a good thing.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7750 Jun 20, 2013
My contention has always been that all OS/GS is the result of illegal and unwarranted privacy, civil rights/liberties violations (spying, stalking and assaulting) engaged in between, among and within civil servant (local, county, state, federal) entities/agencies (top - down, and bottom -up).

please read the following directly from the site listed below,(searched nsa surveillance) and their inclusive letter directly to the members of Congress.......

NCAC Joins Demand for Congressional Committee to End NSA Spying 6/11/2013 updated 6/19/2013 —

A broad coalition of "114" civil liberties organizations and Internet companies – including the National Coalition Against Censorship, Electronic Frontier Foundation, reddit, Mozilla, and the American Civil Liberties Union – is demanding swift action from Congress in light of the recent revelations about unchecked domestic surveillance.

http://ncac.org/2013-Demand-Congressional-Com...
Split ends

Oakland, CA

#7751 Jun 20, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
Not so sure why you would think this is a bad thing.
It brings to light the idea that it can be done.
If criminals are attempting to do this,how many of them succeeded in their endeavor and didnt get caught?
ANYTHING that makes this look like a problem is a good thing.
It's sort of good but I wish it were a substantial story. These guys were just plotting and likely were set up. The weapon they were building was non functional. All these resources were used to trap them because its ok to discuss their politics. Meanwhile anyone who is genuinely being tortured is doesn't receive help.
Split ends

Oakland, CA

#7753 Jun 20, 2013
Anybody know of a person called Phillip eby, also goes by name PJ Eby? He's into mind hacking and he has hacked my twitter feed.
Fight Gang Stalking

La Puente, CA

#7754 Jun 20, 2013
Standard Warning About Forum Trolls

All these online forums about gang stalking are saturated with comments from perp’s (gang stalking trolls posing as victims). Some of the comments are legitimate though, so it’s still worth visiting these forums in my opinion.

Many perp comments are just rambling incoherent statements and lunatic-fringe B.S. about whether someone’s brain is being controlled by the government through the victim’s toaster or whatever.

The other type of perp comment is the kind that appears coherent and reasonable, except that when you read it carefully (and read the previous comments by the same person) you realize that the purpose is to distract the conversation away from anything useful – like how to disrupt harassment tactics or how to expose police involvement in gang stalking.

That’s called disinformation. If they put enough garbage into these forums, victims will be less likely to visit them. Also, anyone who is not a victim and stumbles across the forum will think all self-proclaimed gang stalking victims are crazy.

Legitimate victims of gang stalking who regularly visit these forums already know all this, so to you folks I apologize in advance for re-posting this information. I think it’s important though to keep putting this out for any legitimate victims who might be visiting these forums for the first time, and just reading the most recent comments.

Therefore if you’re a TI (“targeted individual”) who regularly visits this forum, you can just disregard this message whenever you see it. Sorry for the redundancy.

Most websites about gang stalking – just like a lot of forum comments – are total garbage. Here are two websites which are clearly legitimate. Please visit them. If you agree that they are informative and legitimate, please try to spread information about them online as much as possible. You might want to copy and paste this comment into other forums occasionally.

Thanks for helping to shine a light on the Stasi cockroaches who participate in gang stalking.

http://fightgangstalking.com/

http://gangstalkingismurder.wordpress.com/

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