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ptw

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May 25, 2013
 
And what is this association/network/culture: The military has been dumping into the public service (civil servant/ enforcement entities/agencies) at the rate of 20,000 to 30,000 per year (reported and unreported) sadistic and deviant criminals!

Now can anyone to tell me where an "OS network" familiar with targeted felony violations and crimes, assaults, corruption, obstruction of justice, tampering with investigations, deception, manipulation, lying, witness/victim intimidation, harassment, threats from an enuing culture of fraud, framing, abuse influence/power/position/resou rces, misconduct and falsifications by these same sadistic and deviant "OS criminals" are coming from??

Anybody?? Or shall we be dissmissive to this too??
Mru734

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May 25, 2013
 

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Ptw, whatever you said is very well said.
ptw

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May 26, 2013
 
ptw wrote:
military gene pool > civil servant/enforcement gene pool > neighborhood watch gene pool = OS gene pool.
military felony crimes/violations > civil servant/enforcement felony crimes/violations > neighborhood watch felony crimes/violations = OS felony crimes/violations !
Doesn't get any more complicated than that!
As recent news publications expose and validate, the "military" predispositon to engage in, target/frame and covering up [accuse/defame victims] sexual assaults), and its' conjoined "network" (military > public sector civil servants engaging in the same crimes) seems to be the only real viable resource from which all nationally recognized, "OS" crimes (corrupt surrogate watch/snitches/informants/HOA) originate!

These are not just "organized police" felony crimes/violations/assaults, since obstruction of justice, tampering, exploitation and cover up (as with top military brass) extends to a culture/network of [local, county, state, federal] entity/agency hierarchy of "organized civil servant" felony crimes/violations/assaults as well !

Again, something every victimized family eventually encounters through a continuous flow of formal letters (interaction) reporting, documenting and challenging this corruption, obstruction of justice and investigative tampering ! Go figure !
ptw

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May 26, 2013
 
ptw wrote:
OS is of course a by-product of a corrupt legal system of extreme arrogance and pomposity. A system engaged in illegal, unwarranted self-serving felony violations and felony crimes at the expense of everyone's privacy, civil/legal rights, liberties, democratic, societal and constitutional protections.
OS is the biggest scam to target the public, since McCarthyism.
OS is a corrupt, violating civil servant sleazy crime; it's alway's been a corrupt, violating civil servant sleazy crime and it will always be a corrupt, violating civil servant sleazy crime! And it's sadistic, perverse roots and pre-occupation are well documented every week, across this country alone!
"Police" felony crimes/assaults and resulting "civil servant" cover up (victim targeted: organized accusations/defamation/ assaults) afforded through ongoing felony violations to civil/ legal rights, liberties and privacy [illegal and unwarranted eavesdropping, wiretapping, mail/refuse extraction, gps/cell stalking/tracking)! Go figure !

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May 26, 2013
 
I think there are ligitimate agencies and corrupt agencies everywhere. The problem is they may be the SAME agency.(With a ligitimate AND corrupt side.) When Military admits problems, they are trying to do the right thing, but so many in the Military will also try to cover up the wrong doings. Same with Police. So many trying to do the right thing, But perhaps nearly as many trying to cover up and conceal. The people involved with the corruption seem to have a common bond. As if they are part of the same club.(With it's own chain of command.) And I guess we are back to the question.."Who are they?"
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May 26, 2013
 
I believe the chain of command is, conservative law makers, on top , under that its the police & a large sections of the media.
The conservative voters didnt want to change the gps law in 2012. acording to c-span.
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May 26, 2013
 
I think the chain of command could be, the concervative law makers on top, then the police & a large part of the media. The conservative law makers didnt want the gps law to change in 2012 acording to c-span.
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May 26, 2013
 
i'd like to find out who voted what on that issue it would tell alot. The gps law that changed in 2012

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May 26, 2013
 
xyz wrote:
I think the chain of command could be, the concervative law makers on top, then the police & a large part of the media. The conservative law makers didnt want the gps law to change in 2012 acording to c-span.
OK, heard you the first time.. I dont know. Alot of Conservatives want more privacy. And less gavernment intrusion. I think this corruption takes in anybody it can. And that person works within their own position. Politically, either side will blame the other.
Yet, it's in there- rooted deep.
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OK, heard you the first time.. I dont know. Alot of Conservatives want more privacy. And less gavernment intrusion. I think this corruption takes in anybody it can. And that person works within their own position. Politically, either side will blame the other.
Yet, it's in there- rooted deep.
Yeah, it seems that is part of the game. Making it impossible to know who is behind the stalking. Today a car full of Hispanics stopped next to me while I was sitting in my car which was parked n the side of the street. I was doing something and only noticed an arm sticking out and heard a clicking sound. I assume they were going to spray my car with something because it had already been messed up twice today. When I looked up and they saw me they drove off. Meanwhile, it sure does look like there are a lot of police cars swarming around. And then there's all the monkey business on the Internet and with topix. They ve changed the date of the first message on one of these boards during the last week. Definitely the Obama iadmin is involved because the two scandals with the IRS/tea party and the ap journalism leaks. That's probably why Clinton left. The stuff on the Internet are all a joke.
ptw

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May 27, 2013
 
Actually and factually we're not back at: "who are they". There is not a larger, more encompassing political and policing structure than lawless "controlling/deceptive/ma nipulative" enforcement as anyone is aware, from its lowest political position to its highest; (election of area sheriff, election of area prosecutors, cops becoming lawyers, lawyers elected as judges, all gravitating towards being elected as politicians, and heads of governing [local, county, state, federal] entities/agencies; from atty generals and representatives [local, county, state, federal], to becoming political appointments at (as victims of OS can attest) controlling, obstructive levels involving career employees (military > public sector required hiring) within by all appearance, "unethical, self-protecting" legal entities/agencies!

No, I don't think, based on multiple sources of unbiased research, documentation, independent, reputable, authoritative, verifiable, and authentic publications (private and governing) as have been provided by many independent victims and printed in hundreds of news articles across this country; that we"re back to: "who are they," based on conjecture or one pamplet! Besides, remember, we're speaking of "real," human behaviors, interactions, crimes, violations and assaults, "real" abuse, misconduct, authority, "real" (existing) control structures/networks of which have a stake in the outcome,(covering up their own corruption), a very important point !

"OS" criminal behavior is nothing but a "cop instigated" (national) crime, based on nothing but violations to citizen"s privacy, civil/legal/constitutional rights and liberties to cowardly, maliciously and sadistically engage in defamation driven assaults targeting an unsuspecting public for kicks, sport, perverse amusement, vendettas, no reason and just because they can, do and will due to an unjust/corrupt command structure ! An "out of control" fox guarding the "naive, defenseless" hen house ! This is where the much larger discussion should proceed: "addressing the corruption" !(Knowing these forums are infiltrated by cops catered to by topix, their surrogates/fake victims/posters propagating crazy talk, and unfortunately some victims captivated by it out of lack of knowledge, despiration or worse)!
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May 27, 2013
 
xyz wrote:
I think the chain of command could be, the concervative law makers on top, then the police & a large part of the media. The conservative law makers didnt want the gps law to change in 2012 acording to c-span.
This has been discussed ad nauseam.
I can point to several things that would indicate it's democrats doing this.
And I'm a staunch Republican who was first targeted during the clinton admin after sending an e-mail to the white house criticizing his politics.
But if you stop and think about it you'll realize politics have nothing to do with it.
And I can promise you one thing......your perps will now make sure to give you little hints that point to Republicans being the culprits.
Just like they trie
d to get me to believe it was democrats.

The whole thing is a mind fuc. Dont fall for it.
Stick to what you know. Cops and public servants of all types,and the federal gov in general.

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May 27, 2013
 
I'm going to try to take the discussion in a different direction. This is a video by Karen Hudes World Bank Whistleblower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The link should take you to the video. If it doesnt work, google- Karen Hudes World Bank
Mru486

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Thanks tzone. I'll take a look at the video later.

I have a question. Is Gang and organized stalking very common in Denmark? I keep seeing their name coming up. They were related to the underwear bomber because the stopover was in Denmark. And there was the weird story about the guy who helped the bomber get onto the plane without a passport. I think I read somewhere that he may have really been a government agent, the sharp dressed man, that is. This incident apparently was not captured on any surveillance cameras but was observed by 2 lawyers from Michigan.
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twilightzone_1 wrote:
I'm going to try to take the discussion in a different direction. This is a video by Karen Hudes World Bank Whistleblower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The link should take you to the video. If it doesnt work, google- Karen Hudes World Bank
This woman sounds legit, but she leaves so much information out I just can't wrap my thick skull around it. I have no knowledge of the world bank. This does seem like one of hitlers big lies that heclaimed was thebest way to fool the public.. And what does this have to do with why I'm being stalked? Peoplefrom the countries who are on the good side are doing my stalking along with the Mexicans who are extremely corrupt but no one seems to think they commit crimes.
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May 27, 2013
 
RunGsersRun wrote:
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The whole thing is a mind fuc. Dont fall for it.
Stick to what you know. Cops and public servants of all types,and the federal gov in general.
Agree, RGR.

It IS a big mindf*ck. The best thing any TI can do is to assess their own situation: start to document and photograph.

Forget about the big picture. F*ck with the "little people" involved. You'd be surprised how much you can screw with them. And, in the process, you'll find just how cowardly and guilty they really are. LOL.

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May 27, 2013
 
In my case, the pranks started out basic. Often from a person (or people) I knew. But then, I saw the 'flipping back and forth'. People acting super nice and then 'switching'. doing dirty deeds and denying it. It was then (when I started asking questions) appearently the game was uped.
I felt like the little pranks could turn into a setup.
I got a direct suggestion that "I should move".
Phone service messed with. Something dead left by the door. possible attempted arson.(it didnt look like they tried very hard) Looking back though, although these folks were white, the con they were working might have been a little like the Mexican Mafia. But i dont know.

There is a book read awhile back called 'Son of a Grifter' by Kent Walker. This is a link to a short story about this 'family'.
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/...
illusion of justice

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May 27, 2013
 
Adam Bereki , Anat Kamm , Anthony Bouza , David Lawson , Eliz. Sullivan , Ilan Pappe , joel kovel and norman finklestein are HEROS ..........aBE fOXMAN , Pam Geller , eliot Abrams and Ruppert Murdoch and Mike Raphan are dangerous enemies of Human Rights and the rule of law ...........see BY WAY OF DECEPTION , THE LAW IN THESE PARTS and Operation Greylord .........in FL 243 PIE , 244 PIE , J36 4LI , LXE 904 , 668 PCK , 494 MIU , 712 MAP.

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May 27, 2013
 
Mru486 wrote:
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This woman sounds legit, but she leaves so much information out I just can't wrap my thick skull around it. I have no knowledge of the world bank. This does seem like one of hitlers big lies that heclaimed was thebest way to fool the public.. And what does this have to do with why I'm being stalked? Peoplefrom the countries who are on the good side are doing my stalking along with the Mexicans who are extremely corrupt but no one seems to think they commit crimes.
She was on Coast to Coast a couple of nights ago. And she gave a pretty compelling story. She said her computer was hacked just before a court appearance. Stonewalling fireing and assorted other things. Its just the tactics of corruption. Not nessessarily conected with someone elses stalking. But always a little interesting (to me anyway). I thought she seems like an outstanding person. Although I too had trouble following her at times.(Her IQ is probably 180+.) She said she had to audit the World Bank. Found problems in the bank and the troubles for her began.

I always want to ask stalking victims what happened BEFORE the stalking. Useually, something should be the trigger. Have you traveled, or done business with these different nationalities?
Are you maybe just an outsider who got targeted because you arent into illegal things they are?
Mru486

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She was on Coast to Coast a couple of nights ago. And she gave a pretty compelling story. She said her computer was hacked just before a court appearance. Stonewalling fireing and assorted other things. Its just the tactics of corruption. Not nessessarily conected with someone elses stalking. But always a little interesting (to me anyway). I thought she seems like an outstanding person. Although I too had trouble following her at times.(Her IQ is probably 180+.) She said she had to audit the World Bank. Found problems in the bank and the troubles for her began.
I always want to ask stalking victims what happened BEFORE the stalking. Useually, something should be the trigger. Have you traveled, or done business with these different nationalities?
Are you maybe just an outsider who got targeted because you arent into illegal things they are?
I bet her computer is hacked all the time. Would like to hear that show. She is a really great speaker and thinker. I'm so happy there is someone out there with her knowledge and courage.

Haha cnn is doing a show about intelligence. They are talking about targeting and people's whose whole goal in life is following one human being. That guy who was in charge of the water boarding torture is on there and he sure does look like one of the first perps I had. I bet he lives in the place where this happened. He's evil. I think they all are.

There's i way to not have contact with my perps where I live. They e attacked me my whole life.

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