xyz

Lincoln, NE

#7521 May 21, 2013
I agree that the miltary is involved but ive seen more evidents that police are running this.Maybe the federal government should send in the national guard to take over the police.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7522 May 21, 2013
military gene pool > civil servant/enforcement gene pool > neighborhood watch gene pool = OS gene pool.

military felony crimes/violations > civil servant/enforcement felony crimes/violations > neighborhood watch felony crimes/violations = OS felony crimes/violations !

Doesn't get any more complicated than that!

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7523 May 21, 2013
My perspective is from the lowest tier of this activity. Then, I started observing the connections up the "chain of command". For a long time, I felt like I was the only one who had this picture in my mind of the criminal "chain of command". And for a time I was influenced by the "network". I believe there were times that I relayed info that could have resulted in another person being victimized. I was friends with the leader of the lower tier in the area where I live.
Now, I would describe this as a Crime Cult.
The structure is similar to the Church of Scientology.
D bone

United States

#7524 May 21, 2013
Word salad
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7525 May 21, 2013
OS is of course a by-product of a corrupt legal system of extreme arrogance and pomposity. A system engaged in illegal, unwarranted self-serving felony violations and felony crimes at the expense of everyone's privacy, civil/legal rights, liberties, democratic, societal and constitutional protections.

OS is the biggest scam to target the public, since McCarthyism.

OS is a corrupt, violating civil servant sleazy crime; it's alway's been a corrupt, violating civil servant sleazy crime and it will always be a corrupt, violating civil servant sleazy crime! And it's sadistic, perverse roots and pre-occupation are well documented every week, across this country alone!

http://global.christianpost.com/news/lapd-off...

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7526 May 21, 2013
D bone wrote:
Word salad
Would you care to expand on your philosophy?
Ynu483

Hayward, CA

#7527 May 21, 2013
A possible source of gang stalking could be employment of unlicensed people to perform private investigations. I assuming that many investigators hire unemployed and poor people to do their dirty work. Then they spread the gossip about you in their communities. They tell everyone what to do and how to do it without getting caught. That way they don't get sued and the source of the stalking and harassment is impossible to track.

In caifornia there is a place to report this. http://www.bsis.ca.gov/industries_regulated/u... .

Of course I doubt the private investigators are going to investigate this kind of thing.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7528 May 21, 2013
(edited)
Ynu483 wrote:
A possible source of gang stalking could be employment of unlicensed people to perform private investigations...... In caifornia there is a place to report this. http://www.bsis.ca.gov/industries_regulated/u... .
Of course I doubt the private investigators are going to investigate this kind of thing.
I did check out the link. In some cases, that might be a possitility. However in many (or most)I dont think that would even apply. Do you think unlicensed pimps or drug dealers could be the problem? And maybe some corruption going up the ladder into law enforcement, business and state job positions could be a factor?
Ever heard of the Lords of Dicipline?
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb925...
486red

Fremont, CA

#7529 May 22, 2013
twilightzone_1 wrote:
(edited)
<quoted text>
I did check out the link. In some cases, that might be a possitility. However in many (or most)I dont think that would even apply. Do you think unlicensed pimps or drug dealers could be the problem? And maybe some corruption going up the ladder into law enforcement, business and state job positions could be a factor?
Ever heard of the Lords of Dicipline?
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb925...
Thanks. You've got a point. The IRS and the doj are both involved in scandals which seem like they could have been implemented through organized stalking campaigns to silence and sabotage political opposition and journalism.
I know police are involved in my gang stalking. They are very corrupt in certain towns because they are being paid by rich illegal immigrants who are very corrupt and their rich guy employers.
High tech and illegal immigration are heavily involved right now that's for sure. And the local NPR station. The commentators keep chuckling about the tea party scandal. A few months ago I heard one happily remark that we were hearing almost nothing from the tea party. I think they are taunting listeners. Nt what one would expect from NPR but it keeps happening. I ve been hanging out in areas where the tea party was really strong as can be evidenced by the locations listed on many of the recent posts on this forum which I guess are really my perps. Any message from Tracy, pleasanton, san ramon dublin, Santa Clara, San jose. at first they were repressing the locations at topix, now they are using them for open warfRe. yay for the journalism hoax.i assume that and dont know, of course, be ause it seems pretty obvious. it does appear that topix is contributing. Eleanor white is some sort of effigy. Most of the tech industry is very male dominated but not macho so they prefer sabotage and spying and they are heaviy allied with military be ause thats where their funding went during the recession. For every legal techies who comes over there are probably 20 relatives who also come over. Just had a conversation with one guy, an east indian, who remarked on how the conversation with me got a lot easier since he adjusted for my low intelligence. then he told me that ulsl citizens have no right to complain about loss of personal freedoms and spying because people in china and india have it so much worse. Hes into a part of the tech nidustry associated with spying. Then he grabbed me. Friggin McCarthy area and they are the ones who are repressing the tea party who is supposed to be McCarthy era.. They can't get jobs so gang stalking is a great way to pick up some funds and contribute to the hatred.
486red

Oakland, CA

#7530 May 22, 2013
Chinese artist ai weiwei has been detained a couple of times by the Chinese government for speaking out about politics in his country. The government last held him for about 3 months and didn't tell anyone where he was. I heard that he admitted guilt when they showed him a video of his lawyer getting electrocuted up his butt. Ai just made a heavy metal rock video about his detention. This guy is fearless. http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2013/m...
dum dum

Pico Rivera, CA

#7531 May 22, 2013
Dum dum want some gum gum. Crazy shit huh ??

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7532 May 23, 2013
The following are excerps from a PDF publication

http://www.stopos.info/os.pdf

ORGANIZED STALKING:
INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE
FOR WHOM THIS CRIME IS
A NEW ISSUE

** In my own case, I was working in the city of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, in 1980.
One day a rather nasty looking middle aged man on a bicycle brushed past me on the
sidewalk in front of my apartment house, screeched to a stop, turned around, and stared
intently at me until I entered the building. When I got home, I discovered my underwear had
holes punched in the crotches. I found some supplies which had been nearly full were now
nearly empty. There was no evidence of a break-in, so clearly, someone had used a key.
No valuable items, like my TV set, were taken.
I began to pop wide awake every single night, and no matter how still I laid there, no matter
how quiet it was, no matter how physically comfortable I was, sleep was absolutely
impossible until daybreak, then I had to get up to go to work.
Formerly friendly residents would no longer talk to me, but give me icy stares. Up until
perhaps 11 pm each night, endless loud radios and banging noises became my constant
companions. Before that, the apartment house had been quiet, and friendly.
Clearly "something was up," but I had no idea what. It wasn't until I read a paper on the
Internet by former U.S. Army intelligence officer Julianne McKinney about organized stalking
and electronic harassment activity, 16 years later, that I had any idea there were others going
through this. No known cause for starting the harassment.
** A social worker reported that her harassment started when she was hired to care for a
young girl who had been through Hellish ritual abuse torture, and had developed multiple
personalities as a result.(This is normal for children who are severely tortured.) The social
worker found that she was being followed. Her house was broken into and the intruders were
going through her possessions. Verbal harassment by strangers followed. No obvious cause
for starting the harassment.
486muy

Sunnyvale, CA

#7534 May 23, 2013
twilightzone_1 wrote:
The following are excerps from a PDF publication
http://www.stopos.info/os.pdf
ORGANIZED STALKING:
INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE
FOR WHOM THIS CRIME IS
A NEW ISSUE
** In my own case, I was working in the city of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, in 1980.
One day a rather nasty looking middle aged man on a bicycle brushed past me on the
sidewalk in front of my apartment house, screeched to a stop, turned around, and stared
intently at me until I entered the building. When I got home, I discovered my underwear had
holes punched in the crotches. I found some supplies which had been nearly full were now
nearly empty. There was no evidence of a break-in, so clearly, someone had used a key.
No valuable items, like my TV set, were taken.
I began to pop wide awake every single night, and no matter how still I laid there, no matter
how quiet it was, no matter how physically comfortable I was, sleep was absolutely
impossible until daybreak, then I had to get up to go to work.
Formerly friendly residents would no longer talk to me, but give me icy stares. Up until
perhaps 11 pm each night, endless loud radios and banging noises became my constant
companions. Before that, the apartment house had been quiet, and friendly.
Clearly "something was up," but I had no idea what. It wasn't until I read a paper on the
Internet by former U.S. Army intelligence officer Julianne McKinney about organized stalking
and electronic harassment activity, 16 years later, that I had any idea there were others going
through this. No known cause for starting the harassment.
** A social worker reported that her harassment started when she was hired to care for a
young girl who had been through Hellish ritual abuse torture, and had developed multipl
personalities as a result.(This is normal for children who are severely tortured.) The social
worker found that she was being followed. Her house was broken into and the intruders were
going through her possessions. Verbal harassment by strangers followed. No obvious cause
for starting the harassment.
Sucks.
486muy

Sunnyvale, CA

#7535 May 23, 2013
This is a form foia letter to send to the FBI. Seems a little long but at least it will put a bunch of pertinent information in their systems if they process it. Looks like it was written by a lawyer

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-...
Certain yo

West Springfield, MA

#7536 May 23, 2013
"Sickness will surely take the mind
Where minds can't usually go
Come on the amazing journey
And learn all you should know

A vague haze of delirium creeps up on me
All at once a tall stranger I suddenly see
He's dressed in a silver sparked glittering gown
And his Golden beard flows nearly down to the ground"

WHO - AMAZING JOURNEY LYRICS
486muy

Sunnyvale, CA

#7537 May 23, 2013
The more people who send a copy of that foia letter to the FBI the better. It looks like someone did something nice for us, at least for those of us who are targets.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gang-stalking-...
Mru486

San Leandro, CA

#7538 May 23, 2013
Shirley Cummings wrote:
I'm a single woman living alone. Since my bitter divorce, my husband may have put a gang hit on me over some petty property dispute. Since then it seems that everywhere I go I'm constantly being followed. I'm terrified to leave the house, but I also don't want to get stuck here at home. My kids have their own families and live in another state. All my friends and neighbors mysteriously stopped coming around for several months now. This stress is really taking its toll to my health and sleep. I can't sleep and constantly worrying. Why is this happening to me? I've done nothing wrong.
Sorry that's happening. There is a video out on the Internet of a group of targets testifying about their experiences. I think they are telling their stories to someone who was working for th Obama administration back in 2008 but I may have my videos mixed up. Anyway, one target is a woman who thought her stalking was started by her ex husband. If I remember correctly she said it slowed down a lot after she married someone else. So, maybe you could ask a guy friend to move in with you. I don't know if this will make any difference now be ause the technology is more advanced. I just read a book on safety and stalking which you might like to checkout. I'm afraid to give the name of the author on here. I think that private invesitgators can get paid a lot for rigging these kinds of revenge games, they read stalking book in order to learn new tricks.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7539 May 24, 2013
Mru486 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry that's happening. There is a video out on the Internet of a group of targets testifying about their experiences. I think they are telling their stories to someone who was working for th Obama administration back in 2008 but I may have my videos mixed up. Anyway, one target is a woman who thought her stalking was started by her ex husband. If I remember correctly she said it slowed down a lot after she married someone else. So, maybe you could ask a guy friend to move in with you. I don't know if this will make any difference now because the technology is more advanced. I just read a book on safety and stalking which you might like to checkout. I'm afraid to give the name of the author on here. I think that private invesitgators can get paid a lot for rigging these kinds of revenge games, they read stalking book in order to learn new tricks.
Private Investigators Gone Wild...
Well, I suppose that could be a part of it- especially after a divorce. But some of the things I experienced are more like the return of the Manson Family. And I tracked some of the events back to the person or people where it came from. I assure you they were NOT private investigators. Although, some in the group seemed very ligit and had consealed carry permits. I was aquaintances and even "friends" with these people until things went completely sideways. That broad spectrum stalking that seems to come from all different directions is like a firewall. THEY are in a paranoid protect and defend mode. Their confidence is only because of their numbers. If it breaks down just a little, you will see the fear. When I first saw that, it actually scared me! I didnt know what it meant. I was used to the stalking and harrassment, but I hadnt seen fear like that before. All I had learned to do is be calm and confident. And show no reaction (if possible). I am not saying that fixed everything, but it sort of caused a stale-mate.
Brina

United States

#7540 May 24, 2013
brina wrote:
This is off topic but IT IS SO IMPORTANT YOU MUST HEAR MULIMS AND THEIR HIRE ARE RADIATING UNSUSPECTING CITIZENS HUNTING THEM BEATING THEM IN MINNEAPOLIS TWIN CITIES NO LAW ENFORCEMENT HELP INSTEAD THEY SHUT CELL PHONE OFF FOR THE CIMINALS! Sabrina Taylor
Jan 24
the gang stalkers may have Kid forcing or
hacking suicide messages to fool the public if
something happens to her Nichelle it wil be
because of this group. She is only guilty of
nothing. at The United States Department
of Justice.
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Electronic harasser who said he wanted to kill
me at Harbor Lights Shelter in Minneapolis
Sgt. Strawberry said they want the mama and
the daughter dead. Derrick C Kimmons
assisted this group.
Facebook.com/karizmakid
Mru486

Oakland, CA

#7541 May 24, 2013
twilightzone_1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Private Investigators Gone Wild...
Well, I suppose that could be a part of it- especially after a divorce. But some of the things I experienced are more like the return of the Manson Family. And I tracked some of the events back to the person or people where it came from. I assure you they were NOT private investigators. Although, some in the group seemed very ligit and had consealed carry permits. I was aquaintances and even "friends" with these people until things went completely sideways. That broad spectrum stalking that seems to come from all different directions is like a firewall. THEY are in a paranoid protect and defend mode. Their confidence is only because of their numbers. If it breaks down just a little, you will see the fear. When I first saw that, it actually scared me! I didnt know what it meant. I was used to the stalking and harrassment, but I hadnt seen fear like that before. All I had learned to do is be calm and confident. And show no reaction (if possible). I am not saying that fixed everything, but it sort of caused a stale-mate.
Interesting. I guess I'm talking about my own situation. I can see how a protect and defend mode may start to build up. I'd like to hear the details about how this carries out in your case. In my case they are just trying to recruit as many possible and are doing it by nationality groups. That book I mentioned has a very comprehensive list of services that stalkers can use to get your personal information. It's as if my stalkers have gone through that list to systematically find people who will participate. Then its a challenge for them to figure out what they can say about me to make people want to hurt me or to ostracize me. Since the originators of my stalking are probably certain Nationality I'm assuming that be ause I've heard multiple targets say that Hispanics started their stalking.. Having worked with This nationaoity in office politic situations I know how they tend towards bullying and mobbing in the workplace more than most. In this case they got a bunch of people from other nationality software engineers involved and now its just a fun game to see how many others they can include, and there is a lot of military where I live. They like warfare so they'll play along. There are a bunch of highly moral types who spy on people over the Internet ecause they apparently aren't very moral. They don't have to follow government rules so can follow you around all day or put trackers on your car or anything else without warrants.

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