Since: Dec 09

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#7210 Feb 2, 2013
redecomposition,

If a problem does not make sense then the real problem is in not asking for help with the problem.

How does blaming anyone help?

Since: Nov 12

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#7211 Feb 2, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
redecomposition,
If a problem does not make sense then the real problem is in not asking for help with the problem.
How does blaming anyone help?
Problem solution depends on the problem definition. If we can't at this moment succinctly define the problem and ask aparatchick like yourself to do it for us - it doesn't help as it will be blamed on delusion on our part. It's like having partially complete jigsaw puzzle where you can only see some sort of undefinable shape. We do not ask you to solve the puzzle as it's not possible for one man to solve it in one go. You can only help by adding one piece and only if you take it seriously.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7212 Feb 2, 2013
That's 100pgs/2105 posts that I've just searched and still no evident that I've ever commented on one Django, much less ever encountered a Django post before this malicious assault.

But I'm willing to keep going to the end to find out what was said if ever, behind this "attack" on free speech, knowledge and beliefs on OS crimes!

So far the hissy fit trashing and accusations don't seem to have any direct backing. Now if it's free speech I'm was trashed for, we'll address that too.

Don't recall ever going unleashed on posters just to go unleashed, been provoked and will address that though.

What I do know, is it's not my style to get in a hissy fit, and go postal just to get in a hissy fit and go postal.

But, I've got alot more posts to review before final judgement ! May have to add to that list of fraud/fake postings!

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#7213 Feb 2, 2013
redecomposition,

Insults don't work either. I did not cause your problem.

Have a nice day!
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7214 Feb 2, 2013
Well, speaks for itself.....

nearly 200pgs and some 4100+ posts and not one Django post....which means it would have been impossible to have ever commented on one!

My posts stand on their own, and I stand by my posts........but here's a thought...

disagree with `em, don't read `em !

I speak more to the level of attack later !
Sid

San Francisco, CA

#7215 Feb 2, 2013
redecomposition wrote:
what about community protection program? Considering that community protection program is supposed to be protecting communities from dangerous mental patients, arsonists, sex offenders by monitoring them 24/7 in their homes. BTW almost all of those companies are private contractors paid about $100k/year for each "client". Very little discussed program.
DSHS doesn’t advertise the Community Protection program. The names of residents and their histories are confidential. Even their addresses are confidential. Workers aren’t supposed to tell anyone about the program, according to most company guidelines.
http://redecomposition.wordpress.com/2013/02/...
How do you find out if you're on the list? NPR did a show about how the us has rptargeted and killed us citizens but they made it sound like they only do this to Arab terrorists in Yemen.
Sid

San Francisco, CA

#7216 Feb 2, 2013
Sid wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you find out if you're on the list? NPR did a show about how the us has rptargeted and killed us citizens but they made it sound like they only do this to Arab terrorists in Yemen.
I don't think I qualify for this.

http://www.dshs.wa.gov/pdf/Publications/22-11...

Would they tell you that you're on this list or do they just start following you around? Supposedly they follow stalkers around which is just a total riot. I mean in normal circumstances it would be a great idea but it seems that probably half of the people in Northern California hack computers and stalk people online and once you do that you just have to do the rest. I think I just got mobbed in a laundromat.
Sid

San Francisco, CA

#7217 Feb 2, 2013
redecomposition wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it's relevant to targeted individuals as most of them feel as if community thinks of them as some sort of threat. Another important aspect is that most of these companies are private enterprises directly drawing public funds. So they would directly benefit of "management" of dangerous member of community. Another thing is secrecy.
Wish these reporters would at least "out" the companies.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7218 Feb 3, 2013
This assault has opened up a wide door of discussion, concerning OS victimization, perceptions, accounting, etc.
Looking at corruption, on the web outside the Topix site/forum, others exclaim that TI groups/forums are obviously infiltrated,(commented year before I firsted posted on organized stalking last year). My experiences and observation as well! All apparent, to other "real true victims" of OS (organized stalking), based on "their" skill set of knowledge accumulated over time !!
Other TI experiences or observations reflected (paraphrasing):... posters, making extreme, bizarre accusations calling others “perps” is a common approach of deflection away from themselves, and are apparently "well known and demonstrated tactics" towards illicit attempts to influence, manipulate and control others.
In moving forward, it's my suggestion that:...any real, true victim to OS (and especially newbees), should remain aware that varying prospects may be behind varying levels of deceptive, "aggression or attacks," when reviewing any site, forum or exchange within OS.
Out of all the hundreds/thousands of sites addressing organized stalking,.... if this level of attacking others (as demonistrated) is one "common, well known and demonstrated approach;"..... all I can add is, then review it and others first hand (over the last approx. 200 pgs. and 4100+ postings, or entire forum 7100+ postings). Any real, true victim of OS, can see this being played out alot more than once.
Why is it important,... because it's one root of the targeted problem: victimization!

Since: Nov 12

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#7219 Feb 3, 2013
I don't think it's wise to get stuck on some sort of label or definition of OS, TI's, true victim, perps and so on. Corruption or intentional program that benefits some party is not clear. One has to understand that every TI's perception of environment is limited, disturbed and disrupted, they judge OS from their prism of isolation of how they understand society and their own diminished/~ing status in it.
pwt you seem to be pointing towards the corruption as the source of OS/GS. I understand that corruption is rampant everywhere, but how does that influence OS/GS? Is corruption because OS/GS legit method to deal with criminals and perverts, but being directed at individuals who don't deserve it or OS/GS is some sort of side effect of corruption?

Since: Sep 12

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#7220 Feb 3, 2013
Last March, the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) was granted unprecedented power to collect data on ordinary U.S. citizens, data like flight records or lists of casino employees.
http://www.onthemedia.org/2013/jan/04/nctc-ob...
Critics have likened the NCTC to the "Pre-Crime Squad" in the movie "Minority Report." Wall Street Journal reporter Julia Angwin talks with Bob about this dramatic shift in the intelligence community's power over US citizens.

Since: Sep 12

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#7221 Feb 3, 2013
Since 9/11, the FBI has stepped up its reliance on sting operations to catch potential terrorists before they strike. But in the process, says journalist Trevor Aaronson, the agency has ended up "hatching and financing more terrorist plots in the United States than any other group."
https://www.google.com/url...
Bob talks with Aaronson about his new book, The Terror Factory: Inside the FBI's Manufactured War on Terrorism.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7222 Feb 3, 2013
The Terror Factory: Inside the FBI’s Manufactured War on Terror shows how the FBI has, under the guise of engaging in counterterrorism since 9/11, built a network of more than 15,000 informants whose primary purpose is to infiltrate Muslim communities to create and facilitate phony terrorist plots so that the bureau can then claim victory in the war on terror.
http://trevoraaronson.com/book/
The book offers unprecedented detail into how the FBI has transformed from a reactive law enforcement agency to a proactive counterterrorism organization–including the full story of an accused murderer who became one of the FBI’s most prolific terrorism informants–and how the FBI has used phony terrorist plots to justify spending $3 billion every year on counterterrorism.
Sid

United States

#7223 Feb 3, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
Last March, the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) was granted unprecedented power to collect data on ordinary U.S. citizens, data like flight records or lists of casino employees.
http://www.onthemedia.org/2013/jan/04/nctc-ob...
Critics have likened the NCTC to the "Pre-Crime Squad" in the movie "Minority Report." Wall Street Journal reporter Julia Angwin talks with Bob about this dramatic shift in the intelligence community's power over US citizens.
The video which contained the policeman who confirmed that gang stalking does exist came from the same department which has been innovating crime prediction techniques. Really bad prediction skills about how that turned out.
Sid

United States

#7224 Feb 3, 2013
Ps, guess I erased this comment, it was staged.

Since: Jun 11

Liechtenstein

#7225 Feb 3, 2013
I know something you more ons don't know.
It ain't about believing everything you read neither
Vocct

Smithville, TX

#7226 Feb 3, 2013
Ct lady wrote:
"Here comes Johnny,,,,,,,,,,"
Truer words were never spoken...

Since: Sep 12

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#7227 Feb 4, 2013
Albert Burrell spent thirteen years on death row for a murder he did not commit. Atlanta police killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a misguided raid on her home. After being released by Chicago prosecutors, Darryl Moore—drug dealer, hit man, and rapist—returned home to rape an eleven-year-old girl.
http://www.amazon.com/Snitching-Criminal-Info...
Although it is nearly invisible to the public, criminal snitching has invaded the American legal system in risky and sometimes shocking ways. Snitching is the first comprehensive analysis of this powerful and problematic practice, in which informant deals generate unreliable evidence, allow criminals to escape punishment, endanger the innocent, compromise the integrity of police work, and exacerbate tension between police and poor urban residents.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7228 Feb 4, 2013
(recomp) the latter........

(if you review posts, they all ref. corruption.....this is not by accident, but in direct response to it.....years of it...14+yrs as you know)!

My posts are for only one reason, offer real, true OS victims, a "fast tract," of learning without going through years of targeted corruption/crimes/assaults on your own, to get to this same level of experience, years later.

For victimized families in this country (America), dealing with true, real Organized Stalking (OS), it's all about peeling back the layers, going indepth about it, repeatedly (interacting with it)! And what do you find (as others have already posted) in this country, it's not about the perp, it's about the professional criminal behavior hiding behind systemic, "overall" corruption; deceiving/manipulating/abusive civil servant/enforcement corruption; obstruction of justice and tampering corruption; networked corruption operating above and outside the law disgustingly (in America): entity/agency "organized scheming" felony corruption!

I'm well beyond "not recognizing", that as a matter of illicit common practice, families/citizens, the public, and their neighbors (Americans) are being violated (privacy, civil/legal rights/liberties) by nothing less than illegal, unwarranted "implemented and controlled", sleazy easy corruption, for nothing less than corruption for corruption's sake.

Last week on the national news, Google, went public over concerns that of some 35,000 requests for private client's emails (don't know if weekly, monthly etc.,), more than ever before had no reasons or explanations for the requests, they're just expected to be filled ! Google sees this as a big problem (privacy/civil/legal rights/liberties) that's becoming more common and prevalent!!(leads one to ask, if previous if any reasons are not corrupt/false/fraudulent).

Since: Nov 12

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#7229 Feb 4, 2013
pwt,

I don't get corruption simply for the sake of corruption. It has to benefit some entity in some way. I understand the nasty rumor and population at large will react towards a target with negativity, but there is always "organized" methodical aspect of the social punishment in the case of OS/GS. Hidden hand is involved. The way you describe OS it's as if there is widespread corruption and gangstalking is some sort of natural side effect of it.
Everyone knows that power corrupts, politicians are corrupt, officials are corrupt, contractors corrupt, everyone in position of power has potential for corruption, etc.. The term so so overreaching that meshing it with GS/OS doesn't really provide any answers, but waters the issue down.
How does corruption initiates OS on a target?
Are you referring to "moral" corruption of the system?

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