Gang Stalking Debate Forum!

[Lillith]

Thank you for helping to spread DuckDuckGo!(A search engine that doesn't track your searches.)

Today is Data Privacy Day. To honor it, we created a simple site to help people stop from getting tracked online: http://fixtracking.com/

[Victim]

No one posted the Randy Quaid link to my knowledge...so this is for those who haven't heard of this story:

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-512213

I've noticed that there are only two kinds of people on these forums: legit victims, or perps pretending to be victims.. No one else would have an interest in this topic to be here posting all the time.

[Victim]

Are there supposed to be popups on this site?

[Lillith]

Victim wrote:

Are there supposed to be popups on this site?

If you look back on this thread, you will see a discussion pertaining to the deleting of multiple posts on this forum.
Someone also commented on pop-ups which may be a sign of tracking.

[Lillith]

Victim wrote:
Are there supposed to be popups on this site?

If you look back on this thread, you will see a discussion pertaining to the deleting of multiple posts on this forum.
Someone also commented on pop-ups which may be a sign of tracking.

[Lillith]

FBI Threat Assessment Teams (Re-post)

Information gathering: What does the team know about the threatener and the targets?
Interviewing: What can TAT personnel learn from anyone personally or professionally connected to the perpetrator and victims?
Evaluation: What does all of this information mean in terms of threats of violence to people and the organization?
Decision making: What should the team do now and in the immediate future? Who will take the lead role in managing the subject’s behaviors or actions (e.g., human resources, law enforcement, security, campus police, EAP, mental health clinicians)?
Follow-up: If the emotional temperature has cooled around this situation, how will the TAT continue to monitor the people and behaviors involved so that it does not reescalate
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publication...

[Lillith]

Ct lady,

Responding to your question on another forum.(posts are deleted)
Have you considered making copies of everything you have and sending them to various organizations?....news, advocates, government, etc.

This would be a lot of work on your part but you'd see, at least, what kind of response you'd get.

[Hektor Seven]

Lillith wrote:

Ct lady,
Responding to your question on another forum.(posts are deleted)
Have you considered making copies of everything you have and sending them to various organizations?....news, advocates, government, etc.
This would be a lot of work on your part but you'd see, at least, what kind of response you'd get.

Welcome back Eleanor White. Your cognitive distortions, as usual, gave you away!

Have a nice day!

[Lillith]

Hektor Seven wrote:

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Welcome back Eleanor White. Your cognitive distortions, as usual, gave you away!
Have a nice day!

Go F*ck Yourself.

[Ct lady]

"Here comes Johnny,,,,,,,,,,"

[David B]

I suspect I been a target for at least 7 years. I think I might be suffering from post traumatic stress from this. Anyway I got nobody to turn to. As my support system has abandoned me. I am not sure what to tell medical professionals.

[Risk to Community]

David B wrote:

I suspect I been a target for at least 7 years. I think I might be suffering from post traumatic stress from this. Anyway I got nobody to turn to. As my support system has abandoned me. I am not sure what to tell medical professionals.

You could try telling them part of the truth but toning it WAY down.
Try seeking out someone who deals specifically with PTSD if you can.

[redecomposition]

David B wrote:

I suspect I been a target for at least 7 years. I think I might be suffering from post traumatic stress from this. Anyway I got nobody to turn to. As my support system has abandoned me. I am not sure what to tell medical professionals.

It is PTSD. You can also try to look for professionals that deal with victims and survivors from cults, abuse in group settings. As their methods might be applicable to TI. There are parallels, but the problem is that "organized stalking" as such is not recognized as cult, but abuse of it and methods employed a lot of times are used by cults.

http://www.icsahome.com/
http://factnet.org/organizations-list-cult-he...

[ptw]

All real, true (newbee) OS victims:....OS cowardly assaults are evidence of illegal and unwarranted, unconstitutional/ unpatriotic/fascist cop/informant (originating, resident pervert) crimes/violations/ scams/corruption/atrocities a.k.a. whistleblower retaliating, reprisal and retributive "organized scheming" defaming, stalking and assaulting of all (Americans) families (criminally behind their backs)!

This same cop corruption extends to OS forum fraud; fake/fraudulent/play-acting victims; manipulative and deceptive sensationalism; and cyberstalking/harassment/bully ing (cowardly corrupt, resident pervert informant). If you're a victim of OS, you're a victim of "organized scheming" demented, sadistic and unpatriotic/fascist civil servant/ enforcement/ entity/agency crimes, corruption and atrocities scamming/violating civilians (Americans) in your community. All cowardly criminal OS violates civil rights, liberties, democratic (values, trusts, beliefs), privacy and equal protections/ representation/access of laws to perpetuated fraud and victimization.

Recognizing how OS corruption works is a vital step toward helping yourself. Question everything including forum garbage....... OS victims can learn from "fast track" informative, educational and helpful posts by experienced, true/real victims at a variety of levels but, always maintain reason and perspective.

All cowardly corrupt/unpatriotic/fascist OS civil servant (police/enforcement/ entity/agency [local,county, state,federal]) "organized scheming," encompasses illegal, unwarranted and systemic "infiltrating and violating" financial and employment felony crimes as well as medical/legal malpractice to perpetuate "controlled" victimization!

All OS results from illegal and unwarranted privacy violating and defamation based instigated crimes, stalking, tracking, framing, entrapment, baiting, fraud, perjury, tampering, obstruction of justice, deception, manipulation, lying and false reports/filings/accusations, as all cop/informant (resident pervert) crimes/violations!

All OS is representative of abuse, misconduct and misfeasance attributed to much larger "organized scheming felonies" within, between and among institutional, organizational, bureaucratic and systemic "career employee" entity/agency, civil servant [local, county, state, federal] "expected" self-serving, self-protective "victim database tracking" corruption.

Any step toward understanding how this corruption works is an informative, enlightening and helpful step in the right direction !

[Ct lady]

ptw wrote : "Any step toward understanding how this corruption works is an informative, enlightening and helpful step in the right direction !"

Well said.
I think that we TI's as a group have a pretty good idea how SOME aspects of OS work. However, we still have much to learn. One salient area is how "high" does the corruption go? Who gives the go-ahead? Where are the stalkers' lists? How do they communicate? How are they connected to law enforcement?Psychiatry? What kinds of EH are they using and where are they getting the weapons? Finally, who has gagged the MSM from reporting?

[Gorgan]

The Friendly Angel can help!

[Community Risk]

Human Rights site:

https://www.amnesty.org/

[spih]

Please, check out "Gangstalking and Harassment" topix in Newington, CT.

[ptw]

OS real, true victims,(beyond resident cyberstalkers,[or those faking victimization]).

As a matter of record, this site has repeat, "hit and run" tactically deceptive postings that may extend to other forums as well.....

One is re-wording another's post to fit one's reply/argument, which of course makes the reply mute !

Another intent is to "morph or tack on" a post as "add-ons" to another's posting.....
then intentionally interject deception or manipulation as if it's "also" analogous to original post, which it's not !

Another is intentionally inadequate (therefore neglected) responses to one's own questioning of another post; pretending it's sufficient,(being an uninformed OS newbee, is not the same as pretending to not comprehend)!

And another is interjecting some far-out, latest buzz word terminology/technology, then expecting others to prove it wrong! When it fact you brought it up, it's up to you to prove (overwhelming repeatedly verifiable, authentic, realistic, thorough, scientific [natural, physical, social] believable data, testing, evidence, documentation and extended experimentation) to name a few !

While all these behaviors can be somewhat normal to a degree; repeatedly over time, these tactics tend to lack genuineness, credibility, truthfulness and therefore sincerity (Especially when incapable or unwanting to provide own supporting reason, logic or analogy (continuously, beyond some "off the charts" buzz word, or latest exclaimation intended to cut off dialog)!

With that said; I again suggest dropping EH, DEW, V2K or whatever other acronyms or far reaching buzz words are thrown out there;... and focus on the ABC realities of "police (civil servant) corruption, obstruction, crimes, violations and assaults (and tampering/vandalism)," which all victims eventually experience and recognize as having a direct connection and continuous contribution !

[redecomposition]

pwt,

I have to agree about danger of labels as they never tell the complete story. Even labels like "perps" are not helpful at as well as they designed to deepen social division and further isolation: you and they. Shedding all the labels and trying to look at this with unemotional curiosity of impartial scientists where object of investigation is not only phenomena and instances of OS, but at the same time yourself and your perceptions. I know that OS shattered our view of the society, but what if that worldview was just a stereotype and illusion. Now we have a chance to learn uglier aspect of it firsthand.

What if this guy is right (he is talking about complex systems):

what do people do today when they don't understand the system? They try to assign responsibility to someone to fix the problem, to oversee the system, to coordinate and control what is happening. It is time we recognize that the system is how we work together. We need to learn how to improve the system without putting someone in charge in order to make things work.

OS is based on core concepts that neither criminology, psychology nor sociology view as crime. From their view society is only responsible for crime by defining it. Society labeled you as deviant you're deviant. It is democracy. If enough people vote you as green monster you're green monster.

Today I read about controversial "attack therapy" and how widely it's practiced in therapeutic communities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_therapy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synanon
http://redecomposition.wordpress.com/2013/02/...