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“The Friendly Angel”

Since: Jun 10

Atabay, Kazakhstan

#7153 Jan 31, 2013
The Friendly Angel can help!
Community Risk

Newington, CT

#7157 Jan 31, 2013
Human Rights site:

https://www.amnesty.org/
spih

Newington, CT

#7158 Feb 1, 2013
Please, check out "Gangstalking and Harassment" topix in Newington, CT.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7159 Feb 1, 2013
OS real, true victims,(beyond resident cyberstalkers,[or those faking victimization]).

As a matter of record, this site has repeat, "hit and run" tactically deceptive postings that may extend to other forums as well.....

One is re-wording another's post to fit one's reply/argument, which of course makes the reply mute !

Another intent is to "morph or tack on" a post as "add-ons" to another's posting.....
then intentionally interject deception or manipulation as if it's "also" analogous to original post, which it's not !

Another is intentionally inadequate (therefore neglected) responses to one's own questioning of another post; pretending it's sufficient,(being an uninformed OS newbee, is not the same as pretending to not comprehend)!

And another is interjecting some far-out, latest buzz word terminology/technology, then expecting others to prove it wrong! When it fact you brought it up, it's up to you to prove (overwhelming repeatedly verifiable, authentic, realistic, thorough, scientific [natural, physical, social] believable data, testing, evidence, documentation and extended experimentation) to name a few !

While all these behaviors can be somewhat normal to a degree; repeatedly over time, these tactics tend to lack genuineness, credibility, truthfulness and therefore sincerity (Especially when incapable or unwanting to provide own supporting reason, logic or analogy (continuously, beyond some "off the charts" buzz word, or latest exclaimation intended to cut off dialog)!

With that said; I again suggest dropping EH, DEW, V2K or whatever other acronyms or far reaching buzz words are thrown out there;... and focus on the ABC realities of "police (civil servant) corruption, obstruction, crimes, violations and assaults (and tampering/vandalism)," which all victims eventually experience and recognize as having a direct connection and continuous contribution !

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#7160 Feb 1, 2013
pwt,

I have to agree about danger of labels as they never tell the complete story. Even labels like "perps" are not helpful at as well as they designed to deepen social division and further isolation: you and they. Shedding all the labels and trying to look at this with unemotional curiosity of impartial scientists where object of investigation is not only phenomena and instances of OS, but at the same time yourself and your perceptions. I know that OS shattered our view of the society, but what if that worldview was just a stereotype and illusion. Now we have a chance to learn uglier aspect of it firsthand.

What if this guy is right (he is talking about complex systems):

what do people do today when they don't understand the system? They try to assign responsibility to someone to fix the problem, to oversee the system, to coordinate and control what is happening. It is time we recognize that the system is how we work together. We need to learn how to improve the system without putting someone in charge in order to make things work.

OS is based on core concepts that neither criminology, psychology nor sociology view as crime. From their view society is only responsible for crime by defining it. Society labeled you as deviant you're deviant. It is democracy. If enough people vote you as green monster you're green monster.

Today I read about controversial "attack therapy" and how widely it's practiced in therapeutic communities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_therapy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synanon
http://redecomposition.wordpress.com/2013/02/...

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7161 Feb 1, 2013
ptw, ct lady and other TIs,

Thank you for taking a look. I must confess, however,(apologies to ptw) I did take a paragraph from one of ptw's explainations of facts from this forum. I found it to be very helpful in relaying the information that I am trying to convey.

Another post was from vocct's recent blog (2013)....apologies to her, as well. However, I did find it helpful to use an actual example of animal cruelty by OS perps.

This is the 3rd time starting up a forum on OS/GS....one seems to have been "stopped" the other continues to have multiple posts deleted.
Perhaps, the "in your face" version of the other OS/GS forums that were started will be more successful.

Thank you, again.....

I love you, man.
Sid

San Jose, CA

#7162 Feb 1, 2013
David B wrote:
I suspect I been a target for at least 7 years. I think I might be suffering from post traumatic stress from this. Anyway I got nobody to turn to. As my support system has abandoned me. I am not sure what to tell medical professionals.
Talk to a couple of private detectives and tell them that you need them to gather some legitimate proof. Problem is its difficult to hire them because the ones with ethics and problem solving skils know what they are up against.

Proof of what's going on is the only thing that will help you. Stopping the stalking is the best thing you can do to deal with the PTSD.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7163 Feb 1, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
ptw, ct lady and other TIs,
Thank you for taking a look. I must confess, however,(apologies to ptw) I did take a paragraph from one of ptw's explainations of facts from this forum. I found it to be very helpful in relaying the information that I am trying to convey.
Another post was from vocct's recent blog (2013)....apologies to her, as well. However, I did find it helpful to use an actual example of animal cruelty by OS perps.
This is the 3rd time starting up a forum on OS/GS....one seems to have been "stopped" the other continues to have multiple posts deleted.
Perhaps, the "in your face" version of the other OS/GS forums that were started will be more successful.
Thank you, again.....
I love you, man.
no problem, you've shown to have good intentions.....
in fact didn't know what you were refering to...did look back, and viewed posts that led to site........go for it!
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7164 Feb 1, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
This is the 3rd time starting up a forum on OS/GS....one seems to have been "stopped" the other continues to have multiple posts deleted.
Perhaps, the "in your face" version of the other OS/GS forums that were started will be more successful.
tell me more about this, if you can!

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7165 Feb 1, 2013
ptw wrote:
<quoted text>
tell me more about this, if you can!
The first forum started is in the town of originated OS. That one seems to be pretty OK but have found that 1/3 of posts have been deleted.
The other forum, which is from present and continued OS, seems to be unable to be posted on. Either my posts are immediately deleted or never show up. This, including more than 1/3 of posts have been deleted.
So, to circumvent these cretins, whoever "they" are, I started another one. So far,(2 days) no problem. We will see.....

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7166 Feb 1, 2013
Off topic:

Has anyone ever seen the 1971 movie, "A Clockwork Orange", by Stanley Kubrick?

Quote: "Alex's journey from amoral punk to brainwashed proper citizen and back again."

Worth watching?

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7167 Feb 1, 2013
Thanks everyone.
Django

Phoenix, AZ

#7168 Feb 1, 2013
ptw wrote:
OS real, true victims,(beyond resident cyberstalkers,[or those faking victimization]).
As a matter of record, this site has repeat, "hit and run" tactically deceptive postings that may extend to other forums as well.....
One is re-wording another's post to fit one's reply/argument, which of course makes the reply mute !
Another intent is to "morph or tack on" a post as "add-ons" to another's posting.....
then intentionally interject deception or manipulation as if it's "also" analogous to original post, which it's not !
Another is intentionally inadequate (therefore neglected) responses to one's own questioning of another post; pretending it's sufficient,(being an uninformed OS newbee, is not the same as pretending to not comprehend)!
And another is interjecting some far-out, latest buzz word terminology/technology, then expecting others to prove it wrong! When it fact you brought it up, it's up to you to prove (overwhelming repeatedly verifiable, authentic, realistic, thorough, scientific [natural, physical, social] believable data, testing, evidence, documentation and extended experimentation) to name a few !
While all these behaviors can be somewhat normal to a degree; repeatedly over time, these tactics tend to lack genuineness, credibility, truthfulness and therefore sincerity (Especially when incapable or unwanting to provide own supporting reason, logic or analogy (continuously, beyond some "off the charts" buzz word, or latest exclaimation intended to cut off dialog)!
With that said; I again suggest dropping EH, DEW, V2K or whatever other acronyms or far reaching buzz words are thrown out there;... and focus on the ABC realities of "police (civil servant) corruption, obstruction, crimes, violations and assaults (and tampering/vandalism)," which all victims eventually experience and recognize as having a direct connection and continuous contribution !
Who are you talking about? You could be a perp for all any of us know. What a judgmental post.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#7169 Feb 2, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
Off topic:
Has anyone ever seen the 1971 movie, "A Clockwork Orange", by Stanley Kubrick?
Quote: "Alex's journey from amoral punk to brainwashed proper citizen and back again."
Worth watching?
Interesting "judge" comments.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7170 Feb 2, 2013
Django wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are you talking about? You could be a perp for all any of us know. What a judgmental post.
Well I know you read post #7149, because it describes the only cowardly corrupt unpatriotic, fascist profession (I'd guess, you're probably most familiar), and therefore it's lack of values, principles, integrity and therefore inability to speak the truth, much less face it !

If, so, I'd guess that's why you didn't have the guts to respond to it,(post #7149, that describes a profession of felony crimes/corruption/violations, which would reflect "directly" back on anyone directly attempting to take issue with it contents, vs. pass go, and go directly to deception/manipulation !

So instead, we have the gutless choice of responding to the next one available, which is even worse, because your response shows the common element of abuse/misconduct/misfeasance in use,....and therefore an arrogant ignorance that's incapable of responding to common fact based, practicle, simple reasoning backed by long term (visual, written) postings.

So tell us, which elements of this unpatriotic, fascist cowardly corruption did I miss in post #7149, and I'll be glad to add `em !(and oh, pick out as many as you can, for yourself),.... your simply, stupid comments make this anarchist, undemocratic, unconstitutional profession and it's cowardly cowardly stooges proud !

....and oh, if I didn't catch the exact, gutless cowardly performance, then you must be one of the fraudulent, fake victim posters, pushing all the bull crap to engaged in deceptive, manipulative childish antics in the first place, which would again reflect one's inability to face facts, or speak the truth !
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7171 Feb 2, 2013
Django wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are you talking about? You could be a perp for all any of us know. What a judgmental post.
And now what,.....going to have to add multiple "hit and run" topics to the category, from "cheap shot, cowardly posters" that "change their handle" to take gutless pot shots,... that would otherwise reflect directly back on one's original self,(base on reviewed posts)!

Again newbees, real, true victims of OS,...cheap shots are as common of postings on OS sites as of;... all of a sudden; multiple "phantom posters," popping up behind over-over-embellishing praising of some other poster out of the blue, begging them, begging them (for whatever).......of praised poster, who otherwise just happen's to be unable answer simple questions or offer simple supporting explanations, provide simple logic, etc. on their comments.

Again, if one's postings reflect a stance,...oh like... repeatedly saying the "sky is falling,... the sky is falling,... the sky is falling," then you/poster, should be expected to be able to respond with defensible, multiple levels of logic and reasoning beyond; "the sky is falling,... the sky is falling,... the sky is falling" !!

Otherwise why not drop the crap and focus on intelligence, reality and common sense !!(assuming you're not one of the many fake, fraudulent victims, harassing/intimidating other victims of real crimes, to cover up, obstruct or tamper with known crimes; which constitute felony crimes in, and of themselves !!) Again something newbee OS victims should be aware of.)
Django

Phoenix, AZ

#7172 Feb 2, 2013
ptw wrote:
<quoted text>
And now what,.....going to have to add multiple "hit and run" topics to the category, from "cheap shot, cowardly posters" that "change their handle" to take gutless pot shots,... that would otherwise reflect directly back on one's original self,(base on reviewed posts)!
Again newbees, real, true victims of OS,...cheap shots are as common of postings on OS sites as of;... all of a sudden; multiple "phantom posters," popping up behind over-over-embellishing praising of some other poster out of the blue, begging them, begging them (for whatever).......of praised poster, who otherwise just happen's to be unable answer simple questions or offer simple supporting explanations, provide simple logic, etc. on their comments.
Again, if one's postings reflect a stance,...oh like... repeatedly saying the "sky is falling,... the sky is falling,... the sky is falling," then you/poster, should be expected to be able to respond with defensible, multiple levels of logic and reasoning beyond; "the sky is falling,... the sky is falling,... the sky is falling" !!
Otherwise why not drop the crap and focus on intelligence, reality and common sense !!(assuming you're not one of the many fake, fraudulent victims, harassing/intimidating other victims of real crimes, to cover up, obstruct or tamper with known crimes; which constitute felony crimes in, and of themselves !!) Again something newbee OS victims should be aware of.)
You never write anything but nonsense. Doo-whacka-doo-whacka--doo, on every single thing you post. Also, you are in league with the same people as Hecktor Seven, but you are either too dumb to know see you are being had by them, or you are a giant hypocrite, or else you are just corrupt and not even a target yourself. Your multiple posts don't prove otherwise, plenty of perps do this crap for years. You are criticizing other people's posts, but you are too cowardly to specify whose posts you are referring to. No? Then specify those posts now--go ahead, I'll wait. You just like calling other people cowards, in between your doo-whacka-doo-whacka--doo nonsense. Make sure you consult with your handlers first before you reply to this post.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7174 Feb 2, 2013
Django wrote:
<quoted text>
You never write anything but nonsense. Doo-whacka-doo-whacka--doo, on every single thing you post. Also, you are in league with the same people as Hecktor Seven, but you are either too dumb to know see you are being had by them, or you are a giant hypocrite, or else you are just corrupt and not even a target yourself. Your multiple posts don't prove otherwise, plenty of perps do this crap for years. You are criticizing other people's posts, but you are too cowardly to specify whose posts you are referring to. No? Then specify those posts now--go ahead, I'll wait. You just like calling other people cowards, in between your doo-whacka-doo-whacka--doo nonsense. Make sure you consult with your handlers first before you reply to this post.
alittle thin skinned are we! Again who are you, why are you afraid to post under your real identity, do-whack-a-do hypocrite! to use your cowardly assaults! where's the evidence of your woo-woo???
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7175 Feb 2, 2013
I'm waiting!!
ptw

Orlando, FL

#7176 Feb 2, 2013
still waiting!!

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