Gang Stalking Debate Forum!
Special Place In Hell

Cazadero, CA

#6953 Jan 13, 2013
Electronic Frontier Foundation
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archive

As 2012 came to a close, Congress reauthorized the FISA Amendments Act (FAA) for another 5 years. Yes, the same FAA under which the government conducted unconstitutional surveillance; the same FAA for which the government refuses to estimate the number of Americans who have been spied on; and yes, the same FAA that has been interpreted in substantial ways within secret court opinions.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/01/new-yea...

The US government, with assistance from major telecommunications carriers including AT&T, has engaged in a massive program of illegal dragnet surveillance of domestic communications and communications records of millions of ordinary Americans since at least 2001.
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying
Special Place In Hell

Berlin, Germany

#6956 Jan 14, 2013
1 min ago

Surveillance Self-Defense
https://ssd.eff.org/
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Brina

Chicago, IL

#6959 Jan 14, 2013
Ct lady wrote:
Brina- I don't quite understand. What is your cell? Who is driving your kid around? How does Homeland Security keep popping up?
The network of gang stalking is a fusion of systems merged into one syndicate that encompasses TRANSIT LAW ENFORCEMENT FIREMEN EMTS VARIOUS FBI AGENTS AND STATE POLICE GANG BANGERS AKA INFORMANTS WORKING TOGETHER TO BREAK TARGETS DOWN. OUR GOVT IS ALLOWING MY TORTURE UNDER THE PREMISE THAT I am an terrorist. I am a CIVILIAN BEING TERRORIZED. MY KID MAY HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THESE PEOPLE IN ATTEMPT TO COVER UP HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND PIMPING OF TEEN GIRLS BY THIS GROUP.
Brina

Chicago, IL

#6961 Jan 14, 2013
mariaxoxo wrote:
Does anyone know why new people always come and pretend to be appauled by the situation and then do nothing? Does anyone know why they pretend to be conscious of their actions but then they still do it? Does anyone know why they get mad at you when clearly they will be covered for and it really doesn't matter if you get raped, killed, physically assaulted, or forced into some sick situattions?
That can't be a real question seeing that the victim is setup pretty early on to look crazy so that they don't be taken seriously to have proper help.
Ct lady

West Haven, CT

#6962 Jan 14, 2013
Brina you are correct. The person who I believe put my son and I on the "list" offered to my son free paychiatric care provided by a friend. Not only that, but his secretary would drive my son to the appointments and home.

Very odd indeed. The gangstalkers have continued now for 7 years or so.

My ex found out that our son is listed as a "terrorist." Unbelievable!
ptw

Orlando, FL

#6963 Jan 14, 2013
Brina wrote:
<quoted text> The network of gang stalking is a fusion of systems merged into one syndicate that encompasses TRANSIT LAW ENFORCEMENT FIREMEN EMTS VARIOUS FBI AGENTS AND STATE POLICE GANG BANGERS AKA INFORMANTS WORKING TOGETHER TO BREAK TARGETS DOWN. OUR GOVT IS ALLOWING MY TORTURE UNDER THE PREMISE THAT I am an terrorist. I am a CIVILIAN BEING TERRORIZED. MY KID MAY HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THESE PEOPLE IN ATTEMPT TO COVER UP HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND PIMPING OF TEEN GIRLS BY THIS GROUP.
You are correct in that these are completely civil servant/enforcement implemented crimes within a network of corruption. A network of corruption! Any real, true victim of OS,(not some derivative targeting such as plain ole bullying, or pissing someone off who becomes obsessed) can tell you these crimes have everything to do with being based on invasions to privacy. Any true real victim of actual OS knows there is a direct relationship between crimes, civil servant/enforcement and abuse, misconduct and privacy violations. This is an indisputable fact verified, and confirmed over and over by victim experiences to OS/GS. Anything less is either not fully recognized by true real victims, still attempting to figure what's going on and who's behind the targeting of their family, or has just not the enough experience behind them to make these correlations, or finally are not truely experiencing victimization of everything defining true, real OS/GS and it's emphasis on organized scheming corruption/destruction/obstruc tion.
Ct lady

West Haven, CT

#6964 Jan 14, 2013
ptw- And even knowing these things, we have no resources for help in getting these criminals charged and locked up.
Special Place In Hell

Norrköping, Sweden

#6965 Jan 15, 2013
Skeptics often dismiss those concerned about growing levels of surveillance as paranoid conspiracy theorists. But Google’s latest transparency report, released Tuesday, shows the fears are grounded in reality: Government surveillance is on the rise.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/...
Anxiety about surveillance and censorship has led to new encrypted communications platforms being launched, while officials in Europe are currently planning a groundbreaking new monitoring program to help chart digital repression by mapping the Internet’s "cyber geography" in near real time.
The truth of the matter

Kunming, China

#6966 Jan 15, 2013
Hi

Let me lay it down for you. Its really simple. Gangstalking is carried out by Freemasonry. Freemasonry basically created sub-groups Jehovah witness & Mormons. Hmmm Why? Well there's a really distinct reason. What do they have in common? They do not worship christ. Basically if you look up the history of Freemasonry they were persecuted by the church in the old days as they found out the Roman Catholic church was based on a mixture of true christ & pagan religions. So if you look at this in detail on google. Anyway freemasons worship Lucifer. They call him the light bringer, great architect of the universe etc. Anyway freemasonry have a thing called the silent dagger or white glove treatment. It's what they did to there own. Then at a later stage they have co-operated to create Gang stalking. Basically a very large scale of silent dagger, red squads, stassi tactics etc. This was carried out in America as counterinpol (I think I spelt that wrong) anyway they openly did this tactic in America. So it has moved now to the modern times in all democratic countries. Why, simple control. They mentally ill elite believe in the NWO -new world order.You can look this up. Basically freemasonry is behind this, check out their main symbol that is even on the American 1 dollar. It basically is a pyramid that had lucifers eye at the top. Anyway the writing New secular order is on this symbol, take a look or google. This is a brief explanation of who is behind Gang stalking & the purpose to create this sick NWO that believes we should all be products. They see us as resources & have slowly been pushing their agenda onto us by the mainstream media & many other symbols and methods. What can we do, easy pock the eye out. Non-conforming & in a blink of 2 eyes they will be gone :) OK I will outline a few things below such as more detail on Freemasonry, gang stalking the so called 'Illuminati' who are the top 10,000. A lot are in the Bilderberg meetings. Don't take my word, google them and see for yourself. Happy huntings!
The truth of the matter

Kunming, China

#6967 Jan 15, 2013
Ok Freemasonry. Evil? Damn right! Ooh but they are a charity! Yes, that's their registered business status so they don't pay tax. Also it goes along with the all time classic,'the devil hides where you least expect him' literally, as they worship lucifer.'No, you cry, I am a Freemason & they are nice. Well some freemasons don't know what goes on at the top. They just are fed BS all the time. Ok, so you want to see another simple analogy they are all about control of the people? Ok, how many Mc Donalds are there in the UK. There are 1300 or so and it feels like they are everywhere, city,town, motorway, village!. Wow! so many, but Mc Donalds are a huge multi-national company that is very powerful & it's food which we all need even if its junk. Wait a second how many freemason lodges are there in the UK? Over 8600!!!!!!!! OMG!!! There you go ladies and gentlemen, the hidden control of the UK FREEMASONRY. This allows everyone they want to be monitored & harassed, easily carried out. So Gang stalking is not government sanctioned, but Freemasonry controlled. Freemasonry has members all over government & key areas of control. They have lodges is police stations! The royal family household and every town,city & village. Come on! what more do you need? It's about control and it's the most insidious sick control they want for the world. How is it sick. Simple they firstly have control and by using many methods, if they fail they use a tactic called 'gang stalking'It's a very subtle form of control that people don't notice, but only the intended victim. Also, they are strongly linked to child molestation & many criminal gangs that are protected by Freemasonry,so they do the dirty work and the freemasons that are government officials have no connection, except Freemasonry! Hmmm but surely this is sick, yesFreemasonry is dying as it has a sickness that must be removed. I mean who wants to join a group of old men that are followed about by child molestation & evil sick acts. They have created 'Common Purpose' as they are dying & they want to re-brand themselves as there sickness is coming to light. Jimmy Saville was a well known Freemason and there you have it.Covered up at the BBC that is riddled with Freemasonry. So wait a second, this could easily be removed as the members would be linked by membership.Wait a second, this secret society does not publish memberships! Wait you cry,that's massively un-democratic! how can in these modern times people in government, the judicary (Judges, solicitors,barristers etc) police force, fire brigade, taxi drivers the list goeson and on, be allowed to operate in secret! There you have it ladies and gentlemen! FREEMASONRY, the evil control of the west! OK so who is at the top of Freemasonry? The queens brother is the head of Freemasonry! OK, so who is above him? The so called 'illuminati' These are people like David Rockerfeller, The Queen, The Rothchilds etc. So basically,Freemasonry is the insidious control of the masses for the mentally ill elite. OK, so have a look online for cases such as Holly Greig, she was molested by her father & his Freemason friends who were Judges, Police etc. Her mother found out & she went to the police, she was taken to a mental asylum to see a Psychiatrist. She was drugged and threatened. She played along and said she imagined it,then she was released she went straight to an independent assessment & was given a full sane report. She then took them to court. The Freemasons paid her off in court, but would not prosecute their members.Her mother campaigns until this day. Type her name in google. Also,Jimmy Saville,a great friend to the royal family,he procured children for the Freemason mentally ill. This is the Freemasons tactic, the mental illness trick,they basically use their members to cover up and state 'She's crazy' They use the gang stalking in this same way. Their favourite is Paranoid Schizophrenic. Please look on the internet for yourselves. Happy hunt!
The truth of the matter

Kunming, China

#6968 Jan 15, 2013
Oh, by the way be careful where you post as it will be deleted online. I commented on Jimmy Saville being a freemason & the whole post was deleted. There you go, they can't control it they lose the battle & delete. Anyway, just thought I'd mention they use peodophiles in government etc and other sicko's as if they want to remove them they just expose that they are this. There control & sickness can be traced back in history. They are masters of dis-information so if you see websites about Mind matrix control, lizard men its all bull,also they like to identify themselves in posts by using the Freemasonry numerology (look it up online) They basically will say a number that identifies them. In numerology there's only ever 1-9 and 21 18 33, all the other numbers are simplified, I will cover this later below when I cover gang stalking. Back to the lizard men etc, ignore it, its a very clever counter intelligence. Basically they try to control both sides of the argument. So like both sides of the government & opposition. Do you really think your vote counts? It's an illusion. They believe in there mentally ill world people can be slaves. They are very very de-illusional. Once these mentally ill elite are removed from control, the world will be much much nicer :). The president JF Kennedy commented on the secret society and made a speech a week regarding freemasonry and a week later he had a bullet in his head. Robin Cook in the UK, a MP who commented that Bin Laden and alqueda were nothing more than a random database of freedom fighters. He knew this terrorism was a joke to frighten and take away peoples power & freedom. To monitor people with cameras,phone and internet. What happened to him,hmm he went on holiday hiking and broke his kneck, hmmmmmmm. OK I think you get the drift. Tony Blair is claimed in many forums as being a member who got to power from nowhere. Remember in Labour how just as labour were winning John Smith had a heart attack. Hmmm, interesting, there are several methods that can induce a heart attack, chemical or by electric means (waves similar to a microwave). Are you not curious how
The truth of the matter

Kunming, China

#6969 Jan 15, 2013
OK, Gang stalking. One important rule, there is tonnes of false information on the internet. Most people working for freemasonry will identify themselves by stating the numerology number '5'. This can be delivered in several ways. Firstly numerology simplifies to 1-9. So 10 = 1 13= 4 1+3 =4. Ok simple, so there are 11, 18, 21 and 33. These are control numbers they do not simplify. Ok, so 5 is the identity of Freemasonry. So if you have 5, 14, 23, 32, 41 etc these all simplify into 5. So in a freemasonry post,that may appear to be by a targeted individual, in fact will be a counter intelligence article that basically will try to discredit the subject. So they will be looking for you to email them so they can note who you are and you think you are networking when in fact you are talking to your enemy. Ok here's a typical post 'I have been gang stalked for 5 years'' Help me I am being gang stalked, I have a 14 year old son''I am being gang stalked, I am 41 years old'. There you go a simple display of posts to ignore or not to network with. Basically look at the post, seriously who introduces they have a child or their age, of course not, you just talk about what's going on. Anyway you are not alone there's millions being gang stalked over the world. Why,control, Hitler did the same, read about it. It's the elite removing the 20% of people who will resist the sick new world order. Basically, they are testing and trying to remove opposition from the change they want. Don't worry they are failing as people don't want to be affiliated with a bunch of old sicko's like Jimmy Saville and the Royal family. Seriously who wants to be associated with child molesters and the old world order trying to rebrand themselves as the New world order! You have to be very weak and needy to go along with them.
Ct lady

West Haven, CT

#6970 Jan 15, 2013
Interesting material. Are these the people who compose the gangstalking lists which are given to stalking groups throughout the world?

Could you explain more about the number 5?

Thank you.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#6971 Jan 15, 2013
Freemasons have Silent Dagger.
Scientologists have Fair Game.
I also read a lot of claims on the Internet that Catholics and many other churches and religious groups are involved. And plenty of non-religious groups. How do all these organizations cooperate? Is there an organization-leader or it's more like a democracy and they have a "parliament", where representatives of each group meet and make decisions? Or the organizations are independant, more like warlords and even fight each other for the sphere of influence?
La Misma Vaina

Chicago, IL

#6972 Jan 15, 2013
So, I am a target of gangstalking (more so mafia connected to gov't ppl in a corrupt hellhole)... and one of my parents was just asked if by someone if they wanted to join the freemasons.

What do you guys know about this?

And yes, I fervently agree that some people in this forum were sent to stalk others, pretend they are victims, etc.
ptw

Orlando, FL

#6973 Jan 16, 2013
How do real victims fight back? With the power of the "written word," (same as posting, just more formal and meaningful documentation). I see every valid reason for any "real, true" victim of OS to engage in non- stop documentation of every realized, targeted "felony crime/violation and subsequent assault" that you have obviously recognized (or you wouldn't be searching answers to this vicious crime).

There is no doubt that every bit of organized scheming [stalking] corruption is a result of years of compiled illegal and unwarranted violations to you and your extended family's/friend's personal/professional privacy (wiretapping/eavesdropping [phone, cell, digital tv box], mail tampering, GPS [phone/vehicle] tracking, email hacking, illegal surveillance) resulting in targeted defamation entrapment/framing/baiting etc., all felonies.

It is impossible for organized scheming [stalking] felony crimes to exist without complete, gross, illegal and unwarranted violations having taken place, targeting every aspect of your/family's personal/professional privacy, civil rights and liberties, by the only obvious, uniform network (civil servant/enforcement) behind controlled illegalities of this nationally recognized corruption and fraud (illicit and protective tampering and obstruction)!

If you are a real, true victim to OS felony crimes/violations/assaults; complacenty is not and has never been an option vs. that of documenting a baseline and continual timeline of every realized (felony) crime/violation/assault on a regular basis. Neither is "canned" unresponsiveness, deception, and manipulation ever an answer to corruption and the obvious lawlessness behind it.

If you are a true, real victim to OS, it's imparative to keep writing/documenting/reporting/ informing, keep inquiring, keep challenging and questioning everything about these realized "organized scheming crimes, violations, tampering, obstruction etc.(And not to your local lawless enforcement, who's only stake is in covering up the very felony violations/crimes they're engaged in. That's their whole intent; obstruct reporting of organized scheming felony crimes/atrocities/violations[p rivacy, civil/legal rights/liberties] from beyond the local level to the federal level)!
ptw

Orlando, FL

#6974 Jan 16, 2013
Special Place In Hell wrote:
Skeptics often dismiss those concerned about growing levels of surveillance as paranoid conspiracy theorists. But Google’s latest transparency report, released Tuesday, shows the fears are grounded in reality: Government surveillance is on the rise.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/...
Anxiety about surveillance and censorship has led to new encrypted communications platforms being launched, while officials in Europe are currently planning a groundbreaking new monitoring program to help chart digital repression by mapping the Internet’s "cyber geography" in near real time.
Once again, "SPIH" has provided credible information of credible sources documenting real "illicit outside" interests engaged in surveillance; and of resulting concerns of obviously real, overreaching from interjections of "corruption and illegal and unwarranted violations to your privacy, civil/legal rights and liberties" taking place.

Does any of this continual supply credibly accepted sources of information every mention any association to any other "our gang" of "little rascals"? No! And why is that? Lack of credibility from hocus-pocus and just plain fraud!

Rather, we have (verifiable) sources, referencing credible, verifiable documentation by credible (million/billion dollar) private organizations, expressing prominent concerns over realized, far reaching effects of surveillance (violations to privacy, civil/legal rights/liberties and freedome) involving gross abuses (and therefore corruption) from within civil servant (enforcement) entities/agencies!

(After nearly 7000 postings on this forum alone, one can emphatically state,[as someone has just recently], that there are as many fake victims and therefore fraud/deception/manipulation being posted on sites [if not more], as of true/real victims to OS! As any individual victim over years knows, there's as much of an intent to cover up felony crimes/violations through fraud, deception, manipulation and obstruction as there is to compete in them)!
The truth of the matter

Kunming, China

#6976 Jan 16, 2013
La Misma Vaina wrote:
So, I am a target of gangstalking (more so mafia connected to gov't ppl in a corrupt hellhole)... and one of my parents was just asked if by someone if they wanted to join the freemasons.
What do you guys know about this?
And yes, I fervently agree that some people in this forum were sent to stalk others, pretend they are victims, etc.
Hi
It's what they call a pyramid structure. The Top is lucifer the devil for freemasonry. The Elite are the top 10,000 or so & then you have Skull and bones, Jehovah witness, Mormons,Scientology etc. Basically, Freemasonry founded all of these institutions and has strong links. If you want evidence go online and search google. Google is being massively surpressed yet there tonnes of literature & info on it as millions of people keep posting and they can't stop it. Anyway, mostly a lot of the people in these organisations who take part do so as from fear, obedience, belief they are doing something right. A lot of these people are the easily led & they do as they are told. However there are others not in these groups and they take part through fear,ignorance & money. They are shown fake files on the person & either ignore or take part. The criminal gangs take part as they are a useful way to detatch the criminal activities from government members, who take part through their membership to freemasonry or one of the groups.
The truth of the matter

Kunming, China

#6977 Jan 16, 2013
Ct lady wrote:
Interesting material. Are these the people who compose the gangstalking lists which are given to stalking groups throughout the world?
Could you explain more about the number 5?
Thank you.
Hi CT Lady

Basically 5 in numerology represents brotherhood and this is Freemasonry. Also in numerology 1-9 is associated with letters A-I is 1-9 and then J-R is 1-9 and so on so FOX TV would be 666. OK and your name CT is 3+2. Again your name could represent 5. So you yourself could be a counter information agent. But then again there are also coincidences. Go to google enter freemasonry & number 5 numerology.

Yes, anyone who is out spoken and hard to control can go on this list. For many reasons,so most are completely innocent, but do not comply to Freemasonry. In London forexample banks, advertising agencies and all these freemason businesses have group sex meetings. Basically for promotion and ritual. If you do this they like you as you easy to doanything formoney. If you refuse you have to turn a blind eye or they will cause problems for you. It all comes back to freemasonry and their sick nazi NWO.
Special Place In Hell

Anonymous Proxy

#6978 Jan 16, 2013
The truth of the matter wrote:
<quoted text>

Yes, anyone who is out spoken and hard to control can go on this list.
Now, this is interesting. I continue to be interested in just what TIs have in common. Found one paragraph some time ago (which, I cannot find, again) that stated something of the same.

Anyone ever find something that states the intrinsic similarities of TIs?

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