Since: Dec 09

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#521 Jun 19, 2010
CT lady to DD wrote:
Years ago I worked at a College and used the computer there to write papers for students and faculty. I know all about the Prison system, Wackenhut, NCIC, Weed and Seed, and the new Fusion Centers.
Right now Lieberman introduced a bill which would give the US government the authority to shut down the internet at will.
I am not grandiose. I shared I was in a homeless shelter; that is embarrassing enough.
DD- You are a cyberstalker and should go back to Norwalk and be Reginald Frinton again. Or, could it be you are a perp- perhaps a corrupt attorney?
Your self-serving qualifications are, as usual, quite impressive. Nothing short of overhearing desultory conversations characteristic of those in a neighborhood dive bar would exceed the level of an education one can get to be able to ‘know all about’ anything by working in a college and writing papers for others.

I suppose you never had to write any papers, for students and faculty, about the subject of plagiarism either. I can see you have never boasted about your expertise on that subject.

You need to look up the meaning of the words you use to insult with and get to know ‘all about’ them before you use them.

You do not know what ‘cyber-stalking’ means. If you think the words you are posting on Topix are not on a public forum and are not subject to criticism from anyone else who can access this website then you have a serious thinking disorder and are just making up rules in your head as you go along to fit your situation.

Have a nice day.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#522 Jun 19, 2010
I remind everyone here that this forum is about whether there are now or have there ever been any organized 'gangs' stalking people; targeting individuals.

Who are these gangs, and what is their purpose?

So far only one poster has shown that the organization 'Cointelpro' did engage in stalking people, although Cointelpro could hardly be described as a gang.

Also:

Please attribute your source of: any official record, publication or broadcast, name of any official in government or business, any organization or corporation, any witness, any record of accident or other event published, and any published account of any person involved with or affected by this!


Dudley
targ

Lodi, CA

#523 Jun 19, 2010
Dudley Dueright wrote:
I remind everyone here that this forum is about whether there are now or have there ever been any organized 'gangs' stalking people; targeting individuals.
Who are these gangs, and what is their purpose?
So far only one poster has shown that the organization 'Cointelpro' did engage in stalking people, although Cointelpro could hardly be described as a gang.
Also:
Please attribute your source of: any official record, publication or broadcast, name of any official in government or business, any organization or corporation, any witness, any record of accident or other event published, and any published account of any person involved with or affected by this!
Dudley
One main problem with that is that if anyone was to supply any actual names and details of our assailants, we could be accused of making "false accusations" and would subsequently require legal representation.

That is the main reason I refrain from doing so on here, as well as on any other sites.

In my situation, once the actual names, places, details, etc...are publicly given, there is likely to be a formal investigation done which could result in people going to prison for a very long time, as well as putting myself, friends and family in immediate danger. This very easily could also result in being put in the Federal Witness Protection Program for myself, my family, and friends.

Threats have been made on my life directly to me involving actual known criminal gang members (who have done hard time in prison). I'm NOT talking about "gangstalking" type (gov't community harassment) type gangs, but actual notorious criminal gangs that you see and hear about everyday on the news and in the media.

If I disclose any of this info, once I do there's no turning back. I will officially be living "on the run" and looking over my shoulder for the rest of my life, as there will officially be a contract on my life. I will have no choice but to run to the FBI, and attempt to get help. Because nobody believes that I am an actual victim of gang violence, that was deliberately set up in a "gangstalking" like fashion so I would be regarded as "crazy," I am not likely to get the FBI to help me...until its too late.

In other words, by the time they finlly realize that I need their help, I will be dead and gone, and my body will disappear off the face of the Earth never to be found.(I have actually been threatened by some bad people who claimed they were going to do exactly this to me, if I attempted to go to the FBI for help).

So you see, it's quite a dillemma I am in, and I'm sure there may be others here as well in a similar situation. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know.

But I do know that as long as I "don't spill the beans" to the Feds, things will continue they way they have been for me the last 14 years and counting for me. But the day I go to the Feds with the details of my story, my life (as well as the lives of my friends and families) will change forever.

I am not ready to go down that path at this time. So I continue to take the electromagnetic harrassment that is being done by the same people that have physically beat me with a lead pipe, set the apartment below me on fire, broke into my house, destroyed all of my personal belongings, staged car accidents to collect insurance on me, shot at me, etc...(there were actual bullet holes in the fender of the pickup I was driving that proved it, BTW).

They did all those things + many, many more wicked things even worse than that to me. They are directly involved with the same racist sickos that shout racist comments at me 24/7 through their "voice to skull" illegal pirate radio network.

I am actually a victim of heinous hate crimes, involving criminl gangs and organized crime, more so than a traditional victim of "gangstalking/community policing harrassment, etc...COINTELPRO/mind control, etc...."

Don't say I am "self aggrandizing" either. I just want it to stop!

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#524 Jun 19, 2010
targ wrote:
<quoted text>
One main problem with that is that if anyone was to supply any actual names and details of our assailants, we could be accused of making "false accusations" and would subsequently require legal representation.
That is the main reason I refrain from doing so on here, as well as on any other sites.
In my situation, once the actual names, places, details, etc...are publicly given, there is likely to be a formal investigation done which could result in people going to prison for a very long time, as well as putting myself, friends and family in immediate danger. This very easily could also result in being put in the Federal Witness Protection Program for myself, my family, and friends.
Threats have been made on my life directly to me involving actual known criminal gang members (who have done hard time in prison). I'm NOT talking about "gangstalking" type (gov't community harassment) type gangs, but actual notorious criminal gangs that you see and hear about everyday on the news and in the media.
If I disclose any of this info, once I do there's no turning back. I will officially be living "on the run" and looking over my shoulder for the rest of my life, as there will officially be a contract on my life. I will have no choice but to run to the FBI, and attempt to get help. Because nobody believes that I am an actual victim of gang violence, that was deliberately set up in a "gangstalking" like fashion so I would be regarded as "crazy," I am not likely to get the FBI to help me...until its too late.
In other words, by the time they finlly realize that I need their help, I will be dead and gone, and my body will disappear off the face of the Earth never to be found.(I have actually been threatened by some bad people who claimed they were going to do exactly this to me, if I attempted to go to the FBI for help).
So you see, it's quite a dillemma I am in, and I'm sure there may be others here as well in a similar situation. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know.
But I do know that as long as I "don't spill the beans" to the Feds, things will continue they way they have been for me the last 14 years and counting for me. But the day I go to the Feds with the details of my story, my life (as well as the lives of my friends and families) will change forever.
I am not ready to go down that path at this time. So I continue to take the electromagnetic harrassment that is being done by the same people that have physically beat me with a lead pipe, set the apartment below me on fire, broke into my house, destroyed all of my personal belongings, staged car accidents to collect insurance on me, shot at me, etc...(there were actual bullet holes in the fender of the pickup I was driving that proved it, BTW).
They did all those things + many, many more wicked things even worse than that to me. They are directly involved with the same racist sickos that shout racist comments at me 24/7 through their "voice to skull" illegal pirate radio network.
I am actually a victim of heinous hate crimes, involving criminl gangs and organized crime, more so than a traditional victim of "gangstalking/community policing harrassment, etc...COINTELPRO/mind control, etc...."
Don't say I am "self aggrandizing" either. I just want it to stop!
Then why post all this rhetoric? Is this all to help deal with your feelings about something you are afraid to attribute?

How could anyone accuse an anonymous poster of anything? No one even knows your real name!
Danny J

Fremont, CA

#525 Jun 19, 2010
I think Gang Stalking is an Extension of the prison system, I mean that inmates are controlled like robots with the help of dope. It is no secret that Gang Stalkers are using drugs on many of their victims. I was gang stalked by huge dope dealers that were cooking meth. and who knows what they put in their dope, they also tried leaving several stolen items at my home or bags of pills for their dope.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#526 Jun 20, 2010
Danny J wrote:
I think Gang Stalking is an Extension of the prison system, I mean that inmates are controlled like robots with the help of dope. It is no secret that Gang Stalkers are using drugs on many of their victims. I was gang stalked by huge dope dealers that were cooking meth. and who knows what they put in their dope, they also tried leaving several stolen items at my home or bags of pills for their dope.
So, as a victim, the gang stalkers/dope dealers forced you to take dope.

So, whose fault was it for letting the gang stalking/dope dealers into your home with their stolen items or bags of pills?
targ

Lodi, CA

#527 Jun 20, 2010
Dudley Dueright wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why post all this rhetoric? Is this all to help deal with your feelings about something you are afraid to attribute?
How could anyone accuse an anonymous poster of anything? No one even knows your real name!
Mainly to buy myself some time. I was actually only "gangstalked" from 1995-2001, and during that time, much of it included gang violence as I have described. But there has been a few scattered events that have happened since 2001 that may or may not have been linked to me being a gang target.

However, the "voice to skull" harassment still continues, and it is done by the same sickos that started doing it to me in late April 1996.(I have the exact day it started logged, but don't know it off the top of my head).

The voice to skull (v2k for short), is one of the MOST AWFUL things that a person can possibly endure for as long as I have! It is pure evil, sadistic torture at its finest!

Imagine being FORCED to listen to the same 3 or 4 people's nagging voices (24/7) literally for 14 years, with no way to make it stop, unless of course you do the ONE THING they ask: voluntarily check yourself into a mental institution and agree to be diagnosed with "paranoid schizophrenia"! There isn't a day that goes by without the "voices" making this offer to me! Examples of some of things they say:

* pretending to be your neighbors in apartments around you, thus tricking you into starting "conflicts" with them, ultimately resulting in you having to move. Eventually you will have to move (again, and again, and again, etc...) making you look "unstable" and draining your resources each time.

* constantly calling you very vulgar and demeaning names (including racial slurs)

* making derogatory comments about EVERYTHING you do

* constantly puting you down while trying to make you feel like sh*t about everything, including yourself, and trying to push you to the brink of suicide...constantly telling you to kill yourself

* laughing and making fun of you every time you fail at something, espeically when its something important; the more important it is, the "funnier" it is for the "voices"

* constantly threatening to KILL you and members of your family (in every possible way known to mankind)... 10,000 times over!

* constantly threatening you with physical violence and torture, as well as constantly threatening to abduct, torture, maim or kill and sadistically beat members of your immediate family, and distant family, INCLUDING SMALL CHILDREN!

And from April 1996 to Feb. 12, 2000 the voices were only "part-time" as in only during late afternoon/evenig hours. The "gangstalkers" were doing what was called "street theatre" that was perfectly coordinated with the v2k harassment, and tied in 100% to the gang violence and events that occurred during those years (the break-ins, the beatings, the fires, etc...).

The "voices" were there and present and knew all the DETAILS about those events (especially the fire) that nobody else could have possibly known (including me)...AND EVERYTHING the "voices" said about the fire WAS TRUE. These were things I was unaware of, and only learned about through the v2k people!

I verified it by asking some of my neighbors as well as the fire investigators. BTW, a few of my neighbors in that apartment buiding also witnessed strange people gangstalking me, and strange people up in the attic of the apartment building the night of the fire.

Then on Feb. 12, 2000 the v2k became "24/7" and I literally began to hear them EVERYWHERE - even outside. But they get "louder" and more audible anytime I am around a source of electromagnetic energy. For example, an electric fan when on "amplifies" the v2k oices and I can hear them as plain as day. When the fan is off, they sound very "distant" and faint.

Because I have posted all of this online, I'm hoping it will deter the "perps" from bumping me off. Maybe eventually they'll just give it up.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#528 Jun 20, 2010
targ wrote:
<quoted text>
Mainly to buy myself some time. I was actually only "gangstalked" from 1995-2001, and during that time, much of it included gang violence as I have described. But there has been a few scattered events that have happened since 2001 that may or may not have been linked to me being a gang target.
However, the "voice to skull" harassment still continues, and it is done by the same sickos that started doing it to me in late April 1996.(I have the exact day it started logged, but don't know it off the top of my head).
The voice to skull (v2k for short), is one of the MOST AWFUL things that a person can possibly endure for as long as I have! It is pure evil, sadistic torture at its finest!
Imagine being FORCED to listen to the same 3 or 4 people's nagging voices (24/7) literally for 14 years, with no way to make it stop, unless of course you do the ONE THING they ask: voluntarily check yourself into a mental institution and agree to be diagnosed with "paranoid schizophrenia"! There isn't a day that goes by without the "voices" making this offer to me! Examples of some of things they say:
* pretending to be your neighbors in apartments around you, thus tricking you into starting "conflicts" with them, ultimately resulting in you having to move. Eventually you will have to move (again, and again, and again, etc...) making you look "unstable" and draining your resources each time.
* constantly calling you very vulgar and demeaning names (including racial slurs)
* making derogatory comments about EVERYTHING you do
* constantly puting you down while trying to make you feel like sh*t about everything, including yourself, and trying to push you to the brink of suicide...constantly telling you to kill yourself
* laughing and making fun of you every time you fail at something, espeically when its something important; the more important it is, the "funnier" it is for the "voices"
* constantly threatening to KILL you and members of your family (in every possible way known to mankind)... 10,000 times over!
* constantly threatening you with physical violence and torture, as well as constantly threatening to abduct, torture, maim or kill and sadistically beat members of your immediate family, and distant family, INCLUDING SMALL CHILDREN!
And from April 1996 to Feb. 12, 2000 the voices were only "part-time" as in only during late afternoon/evenig hours. The "gangstalkers" were doing what was called "street theatre" that was perfectly coordinated with the v2k harassment, and tied in 100% to the gang violence and events that occurred during those years (the break-ins, the beatings, the fires, etc...).
The "voices" were there and present and knew all the DETAILS about those events (especially the fire) that nobody else could have possibly known (including me)...AND EVERYTHING the "voices" said about the fire WAS TRUE. These were things I was unaware of, and only learned about through the v2k people!
I verified it by asking some of my neighbors as well as the fire investigators. BTW, a few of my neighbors in that apartment buiding also witnessed strange people gangstalking me, and strange people up in the attic of the apartment building the night of the fire.
Then on Feb. 12, 2000 the v2k became "24/7" and I literally began to hear them EVERYWHERE - even outside. But they get "louder" and more audible anytime I am around a source of electromagnetic energy. For example, an electric fan when on "amplifies" the v2k oices and I can hear them as plain as day. When the fan is off, they sound very "distant" and faint.
Because I have posted all of this online, I'm hoping it will deter the "perps" from bumping me off. Maybe eventually they'll just give it up.
How do you account for your skull's ability to detect special radio signals and your perception of them as being voices heard only by you. Couldn't the radio signals just as easily be perceived by you as visions, like in a daydream?
targ

Lodi, CA

#529 Jun 20, 2010
I'm not sure exactly how it is being done. I can only speculate. But I do have some clues, and I can prove that it isn't all just originating from inside my head (no pun intended). I can elaborate more on this, as well explain how I know it is real and not a figment of my imagination. But I do not have the time to explain this in detail right now. I have a very busy schedule fro the next 4 weeks, and I have to focus on my immediate priorities for the next couple days now. I'll post sometime later this week on this.
Danny J

Fremont, CA

#531 Jun 21, 2010
Hey DD, Drugs are not forced on people; TIs are harassed at their job place so they will be at home or out of work forcing the TI to do more of what the Gang Stalker want them to do. I should not have to explain this to you. Hey on the flip side some of these murderers and rapist that are related to law enforcement that are somehow pardoned for their deeds, You sure have the people fooled. Hey if you are who I think you are, Hows the counterfeit money business going?
CT lady

Providence, RI

#532 Jun 21, 2010
Danny, I have been offered drugs over and over again in an attempt to "entrap" me by police. I know what you are talking about. When I had to stay in the homeless shelter I checked under my mattress every day to make sure "someone" did not plant drugs or contraband in my area. I was gangstalked even in a homeless shelter- and some was done by staff who were paid off to harass me. Stupid things like changing my alarm clock 2 nights in a row to try to make me late (I was not sleeping and saw the worker doing it at 3 AM. A woman living upstairs also heard the worker climbing up the stairs at that time. My "roommate" had just left so I was the only client in the room at the time.

Ignore DD. He is an arrogant fool.
CT lady

Providence, RI

#533 Jun 21, 2010
Targ is not lying. Try the site Freedom from Covert Surveillance and harassment!

“The Friendly Angel”

Since: Jun 10

Atabay, Kazakhstan

#534 Jun 21, 2010
CT lady wrote:
Danny, I have been offered drugs over and over again in an attempt to "entrap" me by police. I know what you are talking about. When I had to stay in the homeless shelter I checked under my mattress every day to make sure "someone" did not plant drugs or contraband in my area. I was gangstalked even in a homeless shelter- and some was done by staff who were paid off to harass me. Stupid things like changing my alarm clock 2 nights in a row to try to make me late (I was not sleeping and saw the worker doing it at 3 AM. A woman living upstairs also heard the worker climbing up the stairs at that time. My "roommate" had just left so I was the only client in the room at the time.
Ignore DD. He is an arrogant fool.
Mesa here. Huh. Mesa getten berry, berry scared 'bot yousa.

Hello. Mesa, Your Highness?

Whysa staff no canna climb stairs at night? Dey work derr, no? Whysa change yousa alarm clock when dey coulda jus snatched it?

Yousa no make sense, Hmmm?!

I spake.
CT lady

Providence, RI

#535 Jun 21, 2010
Grow up Jar Jar.
Knows

Buffalo, NY

#536 Jun 23, 2010
to Reggie wrote:
There are different levels of gangstalkers. The man who ordered ours essentially wanted to "punish" (i.e. kill) us to regain the money contained in my late parents' accound in Darien. The "initiator" collabolrated with the Bank, and even had a test run using "will desantis" who withdrew then deposited $700. The attorney used this an "urgent" reason to be appointed- when he and his cronies set up the whole plan.
The lower level gangstalkers are just "following orders" and often do not know "more than they need to know." Many do not even know who they are following or why. All they know is they are gaining status in the group as well as money. Many retiree's obtain extra income this way.
There not wealthy there getting there money from drug dealing and money laundering.They tried to force my youngest brother into being a dealer by having a package of cocaine UPS'd to his apartment.When he refused to sell,they held a gun to his head and had him launder money through a series of bank accounts.They have been stalking and harassing my family for awhile.They have some of my family perping for them because my family is easily led to believe they are more righteous then the next guy.The drugs are being shipped through the mail and UPS,heroine,cocaine,illegal prescription drugs,pot..
Knows

Buffalo, NY

#537 Jun 23, 2010
I found there are many of our military soldiers involved.I feel they are easily swayed to believe some of us are "bad guys" some of them are having their life threatened to.The soldiers are some of the nastiest stalkers I've run into so far.Some of them know how to send negative energy to you.They sit nervous,anxious,fingers intertwined,rapid breathing,leg trembling like any moment PTSD is going to break out and then your heart may begin to race or you might start to feel very angry.They are using physic weapons.I'm a physic empathic and have been hiding that truth all my life because I've always known "they" were around and I've been working to counter balance their hate by befriending those I find being targeted....But they found me.So now I'm dead meat.Sorry guys I did try.There are some good people in the world.We stay undercover for a good reason.We are not crazy we are lied to from birth.I'm pretty sure America is the only place on the globe that doesn't acknowledge empathic or physic ability as anything more then nuts or witchcraft.Some of you might be being stalked because you are strong healers and the hospital doesn't like your kind.That's the truth..There is info available that teach meditation and how to close off your ability from physic attack.
Knows

Buffalo, NY

#538 Jun 23, 2010
How could anyone accuse an anonymous poster of anything? No one even knows your real name!

That's pretty easy to know your real name online.They use IP tracers and bots,malicious code in any pictures they use.Don't let them bully you Targ.No I'm not here to get close to you just so I can hurt you too.It's the first thing that goes through our minds the minute anyone is nice enough to stick up for us.

This is an encouraging place to read.. http://www.mindfreedom.org/

Patch Adams was once put in a mental institution for not thinking like the majority in his class=other doctors.He's one of the smartest people in the world.Mental illness is a fraud and so are the pills that make us all worse then better.NOT ALL PILLS ARE LIES..Some medication that works,works for some of our specific needs.The most important meds is understanding and kindness and I have found the mental health industry lacks both.
Danny J

Fremont, CA

#539 Jun 23, 2010
Hey People, I have seen individuals with Fire Department shirts in replacesment for the Fire trucks. The lack of funds even effects Gang Stalking it seems. I am really suprised because I really believe if gang stalking where omitted, a large portion of illegal drugs would cease as well. I see Gang Stalking as a out of control train with no sympathy for protection of crimes committed by drug addicts and protection of the innocent; basically the Emotional Agent is out of control.
CT lady

Providence, RI

#540 Jun 23, 2010
I believe that gangstalking will soon be exposed for what it truly is- a gross miscarriage of justice. Ongoing punishment for people "marked" for harassment wherever they go because they angered someone who had some clout.

And Danny I agree with what you wrote above.
DickTracey

United States

#542 Jun 23, 2010
Admission to yourself that you are not perfect.( Only Scientologists have a need and demand to be perfect ' actors ', duplicating RON The King of Cons, who was 'perfect'- The TR training courses are very similar to some ACTING classes..) and perfect? Hubbard was a nearly perfect liar.

Ex OSA and GO folks who have actual crimes, are motivated to be silence even more, because their crimes can not just embarrass them but be used for criminal prosecution if scientology were to give the information to the proper agencies )

N) Nazi Style psychological warfare...
"According to material from Gerald Armstrong, Ron Hubbard's former personal archivist, there is an Intelligence Bureau "B-1" that was part of the Guardian Office. It was formed by Ron Hubbard on the intelligence principles developed by Nazi spy Reinhard Gehlen. Scientology has its own spy network, but also hires detectives and other professionals. The cult uses the methods of intelligence services to obtain information: from open sources to illegally obtained information by techniques like infiltration, burglary, theft and extortion. It has departments of security and counterintelligence, departments for external affairs, and a network of covert agents. The cult collects information on people at all different levels of society. From the highest political leaders, industrialists, the entertainment industry, doctors, down to the most ordinary people."

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