US State Department Slams Bulgaria Religious Intolerance

Nov 1, 2009 Full story: Sofia News Agency 61

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton disclosed the 2009 Report on International Religious Freedom early on Tuesday.

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“Be water my friend, be water.”

Since: Sep 09

Millbrae, CA

#1 Nov 2, 2009
Bulgaria became the 26th member State of the Council of Europe in 1992.

They have ratified and signed, among other treaties, the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, which includes the fundamental freedom of religion and expression. I expect them to honor these very covenants.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#2 Nov 2, 2009
*** Rev 12:16 The earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river which the dragon spewed out of his mouth.
JJJ

Surfers Paradise, Australia

#3 Nov 2, 2009
What about JW hateful rhetoric.....'Our god is gong destroy your nation and execute all your citizens except for JWs....even if you are 'good moral' people.

Oh...that's different. When Islamic exrtemeist threaten us in the name of their god we take it serious....

But when the WTBTS, an extreme christain cult threaten governments and their citizens in the name of their god......

Well......that's different.

If a religious or political group preaches racial or religious hate......they deserved to banned....and preaching death to all who do not agree with us..... IS religious villification.

Oh hang on...... that does not apply to the WTBTS, for they have have the truth.

My bad I forgot.

You would think that someone who claims that the field of international human rights is his, and I quote 'profession'.......

Would look at the big picture. But alas, as is the case with the religious.....especially the more narrow minded highly controlled ones like the WTBTS.....

They cannot see past their own agenda.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#4 Nov 2, 2009
JJJ wrote:
What about JW hateful rhetoric.....'Our god is gong destroy your nation and execute all your citizens except for JWs....even if you are 'good moral' people.
Oh...that's different. When Islamic exrtemeist threaten us in the name of their god we take it serious....
But when the WTBTS, an extreme christain cult threaten governments and their citizens in the name of their god......
Well......that's different.
If a religious or political group preaches racial or religious hate......they deserved to banned....and preaching death to all who do not agree with us..... IS religious villification.
Oh hang on...... that does not apply to the WTBTS, for they have have the truth.
My bad I forgot.
You would think that someone who claims that the field of international human rights is his, and I quote 'profession'.......
Would look at the big picture. But alas, as is the case with the religious.....especially the more narrow minded highly controlled ones like the WTBTS.....
They cannot see past their own agenda.
Deluded.

Since: Oct 08

Hamilton, Canada

#5 Nov 2, 2009
saudi arabia is much worse but americans don't care about that,because they have oil!

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#6 Nov 2, 2009
Why oh why won't the US take the preaching of Armageddon as seriously as the bombing of the twin towers?

I'm baffled. And I thought the US government were supposed to be rational, sane individuals!!

When will they get a grip and send everyone with a Bible to Guantanamo Bay?

Don't they realise that the Bible claims that all the governments will be overthrown by Jesus Christ?

What is wrong with these politicians.

They must be NUTS for not treating Bible teaching the exact same way they treat suicide bombers.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#7 Nov 2, 2009
JJJ wrote:
What about JW hateful rhetoric.....'Our god is gong destroy your nation and execute all your citizens except for JWs....even if you are 'good moral' people.
Oh...that's different. When Islamic exrtemeist threaten us in the name of their god we take it serious....
But when the WTBTS, an extreme christain cult threaten governments and their citizens in the name of their god......
Well......that's different.
If a religious or political group preaches racial or religious hate......they deserved to banned....and preaching death to all who do not agree with us..... IS religious villification.
Oh hang on...... that does not apply to the WTBTS, for they have have the truth.
My bad I forgot.
You would think that someone who claims that the field of international human rights is his, and I quote 'profession'.......
Would look at the big picture. But alas, as is the case with the religious.....especially the more narrow minded highly controlled ones like the WTBTS.....
They cannot see past their own agenda.
Don't worry JJJ, I see it now.

Its not you that's crazy. Its them. The government. Can't they see what a threat that Jesus Christ poses to their dominion over mankind?

They must be CRAZY for letting anyone called a follower of Christ go free. NUTZ they are!! NUTZ they are!!

Don't wory JJJ. Its not you. You're not the crazy nuts screwed up Nazi everyone thinks you are.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#8 Nov 2, 2009
Time for another thread about me?
JJJ

Surfers Paradise, Australia

#9 Nov 2, 2009
Once again you have shown how limited your insight is.....it is why you are so suited to that crackpot religion.

In principle, not action, the WTBTS and suicide bombers are exactly alike.

Christ taught that to look at woman and desire to commit adultery with her in your heart was the same as actually doing it.

That's called principle....understand Gareth....

Now back to the WTBTS and sucide bombers.....

Both groups think that their god is going murder, execute, destroy those that their understanding of scripture designates as wicked.

Both groups cite scripture as their authority.

Both groups feel that those that god destroys are worthy of being destroyed....even if it just on faith alone regardless of the person's morals.

The only difference.....suicide bombers act now and take matters into their own hand.....and the WTBTS walk around warning people that their death is nigh.

Of course this is beyond your comprehension which does not extend past the join the dots hold the GB's hand while we lead you down the garden path mentality that the wTBTS call the truth.

I do not agree with or condone the metality of sucide bombers....which is why your attitude repulses me also......for they are the same.

DEATH TO THOSE THAT DO NOT BELIEVE AS I DO.

“Be water my friend, be water.”

Since: Sep 09

Millbrae, CA

#11 Nov 2, 2009
Gareth wrote:
*** Rev 12:16 The earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river which the dragon spewed out of his mouth.
Thanks Gareth for that scripture! I appreciate it.

“Be water my friend, be water.”

Since: Sep 09

Millbrae, CA

#12 Nov 2, 2009
@Post #3

A fundamental tenet of religious freedom includes expressing that your religion is true.

Bulgaria themselves have officially called the Bulgarian Orthodox Church as the true religion; and inadvertently calling others "unofficial". When they do this, they are merely exercising their right to freedom of expression.

Jehovah's Witnesses are afforded those same rights. It is across the board. There should be no discrimination.

What is a protected freedom for one religious group should be afforded the same protected freedom for another. There should be no disparate treatment.
btard

Islandia, NY

#13 Nov 3, 2009
Eh .. Bulgaria playing on the Christian card.. Bulgaria was historically the biggest enemy to Christianity and pillar of paganism in Europe. That what Bulgaria means in Greek - land of the Barbarians.
every knee shall bend

United States

#14 Nov 3, 2009
Gareth wrote:
Why oh why won't the US take the preaching of Armageddon as seriously as the bombing of the twin towers?
I'm baffled. And I thought the US government were supposed to be rational, sane individuals!!
When will they get a grip and send everyone with a Bible to Guantanamo Bay?
Don't they realise that the Bible claims that all the governments will be overthrown by Jesus Christ?
What is wrong with these politicians.
They must be NUTS for not treating Bible teaching the exact same way they treat suicide bombers.
Possibly not all actually read the Bible Gareth. They have no idea and it is possible not all are Christians. Do you feel the United Kingdom is any better at this? They lost people in the Twin Towerts as well.
every knee shall bend

United States

#15 Nov 3, 2009
And the WTS teaching on this would that you shouldn't worry about politicans or any political partys.
JJJ

Surfers Paradise, Australia

#16 Nov 3, 2009
Gareth wrote:
Why oh why won't the US take the preaching of Armageddon as seriously as the bombing of the twin towers?
I'm baffled. And I thought the US government were supposed to be rational, sane individuals!!
So are you saying Gareth that the US is correct in not taking Armageddon seriously?

Could this be because it is fantasy..... is that what you are saying...

Wow.....one would have thought as a true believer you would have thought that armageddon was as serious a threat....even more a serious thought than terrorists.

I mean after all....terrorist can make idle threats and fail to carry out their threats.....but if you believe what you portend to....armageddon is a sure thing....

As such....Russia and the like and every right to take the WTBTS threats seriously....

Or don't you believe it....?

Once more the master at painting himself into a corner out does himself.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#17 Nov 3, 2009
JJJ wrote:
So are you saying Gareth that the US is correct in not taking Armageddon seriously?
It doesn't matter what I said. You will just make up whatever you want out of my word regardless. And if you can't then you'll just make something up out of what I didn't say.

Such is the way of the J J J.
JJJ

Surfers Paradise, Australia

#18 Nov 3, 2009
Gareth wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't matter what I said. You will just make up whatever you want out of my word regardless. And if you can't then you'll just make something up out of what I didn't say.
Such is the way of the J J J.
Heheheh.....the old "You’re twisting my words again"... translated....'Oh dam, I've put my foot in my mouth again".

Let's see...... I've made the point that a Nation has the right to take fanatical WTBTS threats of the overrhrow of their government and execution of their citizens as serious as the west takes fanatical Islamic threats....

You attempt to ridicule my assertion by highlighting, at least in your mind, how ridiculous that is…..
Gareth wrote:
Why oh why won't the US take the preaching of Armageddon as seriously as the bombing of the twin towers?
I'm baffled. And I thought the US government were supposed to be rational, sane individuals!!
When will they get a grip and send everyone with a Bible to Guantanamo Bay?
Don't they realise that the Bible claims that all the governments will be overthrown by Jesus Christ?
What is wrong with these politicians.
They must be NUTS for not treating Bible teaching the exact same way they treat suicide bombers.
Now why would you think it ridiculous and foolish for the US or any other nation,(not to mention yourself, a true believer) not to take as seriously the threat of Armageddon as they would a sucilde bomber?

The only answer is that they (and you) don't believe armageddon is a serious threat.

As I have said Gareth...... you have a reasonable level of intelligence, but your egotistical need to be right all the time....

Exposes what a fool you are.
JJJ

Surfers Paradise, Australia

#19 Nov 3, 2009
Just as I thought.....you've got nothing to say.......

It's the same with the double standards thread........you've got nothin.

What's the problem......the string on your chest snap from pulling it too much?

You may know your bible as well as I know mine.....

You put one of the best spins on it ala WTBTS matrix that I've ever witnessed (very impressive for a bible study lol)...

But the day when you can out reason me using honesty and logic.....

Well that day just does not exist.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#20 Nov 3, 2009
to do list wrote:
saudi arabia is much worse but americans don't care about that,because they have oil!
oil is good for business,what are bulgarians good for?
Ben

Santa Clara, CA

#21 Nov 3, 2009
JJJ wrote:
<quoted text>

Let's see...... I've made the point that a Nation has the right to take fanatical WTBTS threats of the overrhrow of their government and execution of their citizens as serious as the west takes fanatical Islamic threats....
Armageddon is God's War, not man's.

Militant jihad is a man's war; not God's.

You fail to understand that difference.

Violent terrorism is physical, tangible.

Jehovah's Witnesses are known to be peace-loving citizens. In fact, they refuse to take military arms. They can hardly be called a threat.

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