Spaska Mitrova case: Comments in FYROM's TMs media

Sofia and Skopje again exchanged diplomatic notes. This time the new government of Prime Minister Boyko Borisov did not hesitate much on the case with Spaska Mitrova and sent "a threatening diplomatic note" while Skopje responded with much moderate tone,A Dnevnik daily writes.

[ERT]

"VMRO-Bulgarian National Movement leader Krasimir Karakachanov, who a few days ago called on Boyko Borisov’s government not to lift visas for FYROM’s citizens and to block FYROM’s accession to the EU and NATO."

[VETOMonkeydonia]

Bravo!!! Monkeydonians need Bulgarian Passports for traveling in the EU! Because they are Bulgarians!!!

[LouWeed]

hahahahaha look how the voulgoi prosfygas from 1919 r acting som tatarian clowns...hahahahaha

nice, rock on!

VLGARIA NAD VSICKI KUR!

[Makedonikos Agon]

Karakachanov probably has some Greek roots:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarakatsani
In Bulgaria, according to the 2001 census, 4,107 individuals identified as Sarakatsani (Bulgarian: ка&#10 88;ак& #1072;ча ни, karakachani)

[stink-bag]

karakachanov dont look like greek to me

[Makedonikos Agon]

stink-bag wrote:

karakachanov dont look like greek to me

his name does though sorry...
but what about Gruios-Gruevski?

[Chago]

LouWeed wrote:

hahahahaha look how the voulgoi prosfygas from 1919 r acting som tatarian clowns...hahahahaha
nice, rock on!
VLGARIA NAD VSICKI KUR!

hey Skopi, if you guys are really Macedonians, why are Skopis not found in Alexander's old empire? why no FakiMaki colonies in Greece, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Israel, Pakistan, Afghanistan? or in old Greek colonies in Italy, France, Russia, Spain?

why are Skopis only found in Skopilandia, UK, Australia, US & Canada?

why is that?

could you Skopis really be new to the Balkans, like 520 AD? Skopis are fakers

[firot-monkeys]

karakachanov looks like some turkish root cuz kara = black, kachan = i dont know about this one.

[Chago]

so Skopean monkeys, why does it look like your people followed Queen Victoria to English-speaking countries & not Alexander the Great into his old empire?

where are the colonies of bre Slavnis stuck behind the islamic curtain, where is the history as they bravely fought the hordes of mohammadans? where are the Slavni monuments in his old empire? you know the ones, that praise Alexander's generals; Boris, Tito, Slavadan, Igor?

[Makedonikos Agon]

firot-monkeys wrote:

karakachanov looks like some turkish root cuz kara = black, kachan = i dont know about this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarakatsani
Name

The most popular theory about the origin of the name Sarakatsani or Karakatsani, is that it probably derives from the Turkish word karakaçan (kara ='black'+ kaçan ='fugitive') meaning 'those who flee to uncultivated lands'.[8] The first element (kara) of the word, was used by the Ottomans to denote the black garment of Sarakatsani, which indicated their mourning for the Fall of Constantinople.[citation needed] It is said that for the same reason, they also slaughtered the white lambs and left alive only the black. An alternative and less popular theory states that their name comes from the Aromanian word sarac-tsani meaning 'poorman'. The Sarakatsani were recorded under this name for the first time only at the end of the 18th century and the beginning of the 19th century, thus the quest for their true origins gave place to a lot of speculative theories among the scholars.

Sarakatsani in Bulgaria
Federation of Bulgarian Sarakatsani Cultural Societies in Sliven, Bulgaria.

In Bulgaria, according to the 2001 census, 4,107 individuals identified as Sarakatsani (Bulgarian: ка&#10 88;ак& #1072;ча ни, karakachani).

[firot-monkeys]

maybe the aromanian thing makes sense. since the second bulgaro-vallachian empire you cant make distinction between bulgars and northern wallachians except for the language they prefer to use.

[manos]

"...The Ministry (of Bulgaria) doubts the way the authorities have acted, and the motives of the Macedonian court, describing them as not entirely juridical. According to the Bulgarian side, there are evidences that the motives have something to do with Spaska Mitova's publicly demonstration of Bulgarian self-awareness.

There have been found other evidences that rise suspicions that Bulgarian citizens, and Macedonian citizens with Bulgarian self-awareness, have been put under administrative and police pressure only because of their self-awareness..."

The hypocricy of Fyromians...

[Karakachani]

Karakachani in Bulgaria:

http://www.dnevnik.bg/bigpicture/2009/07/12/7...

[firot-monkeys]

i could not help to notice the author mentioning pindus wlachs. im curious when this migration from pindus to bulgaria occured. i know that after the final macedonian-roman battle, macedonians were forced out by the romans and most fled to southern thrace

[Banju]

Chester wrote:

these FYROManiacs should be locked up

Yes they should be

[Yiorgos]

Makedonikos Agon wrote:

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his name does though sorry...
but what about Gruios-Gruevski?

His family comes from a village in Greece and they left the country when the commies got their arses spanked in the Greek civil war.

[Chago]

Yiorgos wrote:

<quoted text>
His family comes from a village in Greece and they left the country when the commies got their arses spanked in the Greek civil war.

this whole episode has a communist leftover legacy, Tito knew that Stalin had ordered the Greek communists to try to overthrow the Greek government, so Tito decided to take a slice of Greece in the turmoil; but he had to prepare, thereby creating an artifical state that stole the target country's province name

Tito creates "Macedonia" in 1944
Tito creates an separate language in 1944
Greek Civil war started in 1946

thanks at least we can know why people with communist backgrounds are so messed up

[bulgar]

How can Bulgaria tolerate this?

[Chago]

bulgar wrote:

How can Bulgaria tolerate this?

unknown how Skopeans could be deceived into thinking they are "Macedonian", I think it was the 1,000 years of isolation after the collapse of the 1st Bulgarian Empire, they were dominated by the Greek Byzantines, Ottoman Turks & Yugoslav Serbians from 1018 to 1991, thats a long time to stew in your juices, dreaming up how you will be free, but also forgetting your roots

[bulgar]

Who cares about history. The woman got incarcerated and her child taken after her husband has beaten her. Bulgaria should react on this.