What's Wrong with Bulgarians and Romanians?

Nov 1, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Sofia News Agency

Kapka Kassabova The Guardian What's wrong is that they joined the EU after half a million Polish migrants rocked up to these shores. via Sofia News Agency

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Bulgaropithecus

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Nov 4, 2007
 
There's another differnece: the Gypsies. After we had been told to integrate them for at least 18 years, now that they've come to Italy, Spain, France, soon even to Britain, I want to see how anyone can integrate them. I'm sorry to say but these are NOT my compatriots! They are UNWANTED and hated, both in Bulgaria and Romania, and even if there is no other positive effect from our countries joining the EU, to see at least SOME of them are leaving would be great!

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Nov 5, 2007
 
Spain, Portugal and France already had their sort of gypsies.
I think that there is also some discrimination. Look at the Baltic states by 2004? Look at Poland with its 20% unemployed and agriculture head-aches by 2004?
I think you Bulgarians remind me a lot the Portuguese when it comes down to self-flagelating.
What's the problem with the gypsies? Don't they want to work? Do gypsie parents teach their children for not working and not going to school?
If a gypsie applies for a job, does he get the same chances of getting it?
Answers, please.
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Nov 5, 2007
 
JoaoP wrote:
Spain, Portugal and France already had their sort of gypsies.
I think that there is also some discrimination. Look at the Baltic states by 2004? Look at Poland with its 20% unemployed and agriculture head-aches by 2004?
I think you Bulgarians remind me a lot the Portuguese when it comes down to self-flagelating.
What's the problem with the gypsies? Don't they want to work? Do gypsie parents teach their children for not working and not going to school?
If a gypsie applies for a job, does he get the same chances of getting it?
Answers, please.
The gypsies in Eastern Europe were victimised in the western countries since 17 century. In Spain Britain, Germany, Sweden there were thousands of gypsies, who were expelled from Western Europe with special orders and laws from the monarchs. A large masses of them settled in modern Romania. Then they resettled in Bulgaria, Serbia, Turkey, Greece - the whole Balkans.

The problem of the gypsies is not their skin colour. The problem is their mentality.
They are born thieves, robbers, they rape women, they kill for money. Furthermore - they are very very LAZY! They don't want to work. There is a lot of job for them, but they just don't want to work because they are naturally LAZY! They prefer to rob a man, to kill an old lady and take her money, to rape a young woman to satisfy their lust.

They are not humans.
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Nov 5, 2007
 
The work is a humiliation for them. But to rob a man is a heroism. This is what they are tought from young age.

They can not integrate - they live in their own rules and customs. And they don't want to be civil and normal people.
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Nov 6, 2007
 
How can this be wrong? This is simply wonderful news.:)

Gypsies returning home... at last.:)
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Nov 6, 2007
 
JoaoP wrote:
Spain, Portugal and France already had their sort of gypsies.
I think that there is also some discrimination. Look at the Baltic states by 2004? Look at Poland with its 20% unemployed and agriculture head-aches by 2004?
I think you Bulgarians remind me a lot the Portuguese when it comes down to self-flagelating.
What's the problem with the gypsies? Don't they want to work? Do gypsie parents teach their children for not working and not going to school?
If a gypsie applies for a job, does he get the same chances of getting it?
Answers, please.
The problem is they don't want to apply for a job.
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Nov 6, 2007
 
bulgarian brother we need to cooperate with this gypsy problem...we need to make an organization to expell this gypsies from both countries

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Nov 6, 2007
 
Dragshan wrote:
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The gypsies in Eastern Europe were victimised in the western countries since 17 century. In Spain Britain, Germany, Sweden there were thousands of gypsies, who were expelled from Western Europe with special orders and laws from the monarchs. A large masses of them settled in modern Romania. Then they resettled in Bulgaria, Serbia, Turkey, Greece - the whole Balkans.
The problem of the gypsies is not their skin colour. The problem is their mentality.
They are born thieves, robbers, they rape women, they kill for money. Furthermore - they are very very LAZY! They don't want to work. There is a lot of job for them, but they just don't want to work because they are naturally LAZY! They prefer to rob a man, to kill an old lady and take her money, to rape a young woman to satisfy their lust.
They are not humans.
Not true. Iberian gypsies come from the north of Africa. They do not look Indians like the Eastern European ones. The Eastern European gypsies come from India. They look Indians.

Here, despite the gypsies troubles, we have many who decide to integrate in the society and abandon the gypsy way of life. Actually many gypsy families give their children a choice. And the children choose when they grow up. I know many people who studied and work and have gypsy ancestors (mixed). The Portuguese football player Quaresma (Porto) is gypsy.

Your problem with gypsies is a matter of education. If gypsy children are brought up by their families in a way that they should not work, they should despise white people, they should steal and beg, of course they will do that.
These kind of children should be taken from their families and be adopted by other families.

"They are not humans?" I can see by this statement how dangerous Eastern Europeans can be. If I were a gypsy I wouldn't trust them. I saw the gypsies in Bulgaria. Many women have no chances but to engage in prostitution, because they are denied chances in life.
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Nov 6, 2007
 
Joao, do not worry my friend, instead of telling us what we should do, you'll have the chance to actually show us in real life how you do it.

So, good luck, western brother, and take good care of our gypsies.:)

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Nov 6, 2007
 
Bulgaria-EU wrote:
Joao, do not worry my friend, instead of telling us what we should do, you'll have the chance to actually show us in real life how you do it.
So, good luck, western brother, and take good care of our gypsies.:)
ah ah! There are a few already, begging, begging, begging. But you know they won't stay in Portugal because in other countries they can make a lot more money.
Recently a gang of Bulgarians was caught here. They had an ingenious plan for copying bank cards.
The plan consisted of putting a CCTV camera over an ATM machine to read the user's PIN, and a device in the ATM machine for copying the card strip. Then they could fake bank cards and make money withdrawals.
I read this article in several newspapers and no mention of them being "gypsy" was made.
So, non-gypsy Bulgarians commit crimes as well.
Like everybody.
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Nov 8, 2007
 
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They do not look Indians like the Eastern European ones. The Eastern European gypsies come from India. They look Indians.
Of course the Eastern European gypsies come from India. But when they entered Europe, they colonised the whole continent to France and Britain. And in 16 century they have been persecuted and many of them settled in Romania, then the whole Balkans.
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These kind of children should be taken from their families and be adopted by other families.
Joao you are living in other world! The gypsies in Bulgaria make many kids and then sent them to steal, kill and prostitute. And if you try to take the gypsie kids and give them for adoption, their parents will cut off your throat and then sent back the kids on the streets as professional robers and bandits!
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"They are not humans?" I can see by this statement how dangerous Eastern Europeans can be. If I were a gypsy I wouldn't trust them. I saw the gypsies in Bulgaria. Many women have no chances but to engage in prostitution, because they are denied chances in life.
Dangerous??? Why don't you come in Bulgaria and try to pay a visit into a gypsie geto? You will be robbed, raped and even killed! If you are just robed and raped then you are one very lucky guy!

No one deny the chance for life of the gypsies in Bulgaria. They just don't want to be integrated, because they have disgusting mentality of bandits.

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Nov 8, 2007
 
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Joao you are living in other world! The gypsies in Bulgaria make many kids and then sent them to steal, kill and prostitute. And if you try to take the gypsie kids and give them for adoption, their parents will cut off your throat and then sent back the kids on the streets as professional robers and bandits!
And if that is dome by the state with protection? We also have that in Portugal. We have gypsies living in slums. They do not want to live a normal life. But we also have gypsies who opt to live a normal life and give their sons a choice.
A few years ago one gypsy man was convicted for child abuse and pimping because forcing the marriage for his 11 year old daughter with a much older man. We also had had a few fights between gypsies and Eastern European immigrants. Eastern Europeans hate them, and the gypsies here do not tolerate if one of them is attacked. They send the whole family to take revenge.
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Dangerous??? Why don't you come in Bulgaria and try to pay a visit into a gypsie geto? You will be robbed, raped and even killed! If you are just robed and raped then you are one very lucky guy!
No one deny the chance for life of the gypsies in Bulgaria. They just don't want to be integrated, because they have disgusting mentality of bandits.
I was in Bulgaria, namely in Varna. I saw many gypgies. In Sůfia I got lost at night in the district of Krasnapoliana. Apart from the stray dogs, I felt quite safe, but in fact the only ones who sarted to make comments while I walked on the street were a group of gypsies.
If they do not want to be integrated, the change must start with children, whether they like it or not.
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Nov 8, 2007
 
JoaoP wrote:
If they do not want to be integrated, the change must start with children, whether they like it or not.
How? When we take their children by force and educate them? Don't you think that this is too faschist?

The poblem of the gypsies is that they do not want to integrate. And if they don't want - their place is not in Bulgaria. India have need of free workers....

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How? When we take their children by force and educate them? Don't you think that this is too faschist?
No. Fascists used to put people in concentration camps and exterminated them. Education is not a fascist attitude.
In countries like Sweden, England, Netherlands, Switzerland, when the social officials detect that a child is being mistreated by their parents, they take the child from the parents and try to find another family for adoption.
It started to be done in Portugal as well, with children victims of violent alcoholic parents, child rape, so on.

It's elementary psychology: Any human being forms his personalty by interacting with his parents during childhood. Also the most learning capable animals such as dogs, work in the same way.

So, a good way to eliminate future adults with dysfunctional personalities is by ensuring that children grow up in functional families. Families (natural or not) who combine love, with teaching values of socializing, work and study for goals, etc.

I know, in theory it's always easier. But it works.
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Nov 11, 2007
 
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In countries like Sweden, England, Netherlands, Switzerland, when the social officials detect that a child is being mistreated by their parents, they take the child from the parents and try to find another family for adoption.
Oh - we tried this already. The gypsies reacted with anger and said that they are discriminated.
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Nov 11, 2007
 
Europe has a problem with citizens from the former USSR countries. Not to say they are not hard workers but they are quite inhumane in their attitudes, they mistake kindness for weakness, trust for stupidity.
You guys wants to expel your fellow countrymen (gypsies) where to?
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Nov 12, 2007
 
"You guys wants to expel your fellow countrymen (gypsies) where to?"

To Aalsmeer, Netherlands, dear Veronica.:)

You are right in everything you say, we are inhumane, and you my humane western brothers take good care of our gypsies, they need you, they need your kindness and trust.:)

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Nov 12, 2007
 
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Oh - we tried this already. The gypsies reacted with anger and said that they are discriminated.
An if you PROVE that some gypsy families educate their children in a dysfunctional way? Who will say that?
I do not think you have tried that already. I've heard the same excuse from Czechs.
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Nov 13, 2007
 
Bulgaria-EU wrote:
"You guys wants to expel your fellow countrymen (gypsies) where to?"
To Aalsmeer, Netherlands, dear Veronica.:)
You are right in everything you say, we are inhumane, and you my humane western brothers take good care of our gypsies, they need you, they need your kindness and trust.:)
My dear donít be offended by my comment over ex USSR citizens it is simply a fact. We all make allowances for the strict system these countries had been subjected to. We are at fault ourselves expecting a sudden change in mentality which will take some time of course. Please donít send your gypsies to us we have enough problems with our home grown criminals, they donít need to learn new methods.
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Nov 13, 2007
 
Dear Veronica, just for the record - Bulgaria never was an ex USSR Republic and Bulgarians never were USSR citizens.

And I don't know what exactly did you expect from us, but I can tell you what you should expect - our Gypsies!

And please don't send them back, do not be an unhumane east european with backward mentality but be the the humane civilized westerner which I'm sure you are and take good care of them!

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