Former FYROM PM : Our people are the greatest forgerers of the Balkan History

Jul 1, 2012 Full story: history-of-macedonia.com 24

Former FYROM’s PM and first leader of the governing party BMPO-DPMHE, Ljubco Georgievski, who has acquired the Bulgarian Citizenship, reveals many unknown aspects of FYROM’s recent history in his autobiography "That Me".

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mr large

Mansfield, MA

#1 Jul 1, 2012
why would your former prime minister say this. mina today wrote a critique of the pm's statement and said he was mentally ill. just like you looooosers to lie . not only the worlds' scholars but your own prime minister says you are liars.
The Albanization of FYROM

Täby, Sweden

#2 Jul 2, 2012
"Ljubco Georgievski – former PM of FYROM – reaches the conclusion that the Slavs of FYROM are “the greatest forgerers of the Balkan History” and will have “ cursed mothers’ milk , because they have been damned by St Clement and Naum“, as a publication in FYROM claims that uses as source the Serbian newspaper Vecernje Novosti."

FFF = Fyrom FCUKED FOREVER!
MacedoniaIsGreek

Athens, Greece

#3 Jul 2, 2012
hahaha poor pathetic skops. Your former prime minister destroyed you and your fake history.
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#4 Jul 2, 2012
FyroMonkeydonians are the most stupid people in the world!
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#5 Jul 2, 2012
time for samaras to turn the screws

“Progressive liberal politic”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#6 Jul 3, 2012
When country base on nation-religion-racial-militar ism = Poverty and tragedy.

This need to know and FYR Macedonia and Greece.
fyromians are subhumans

Bulgaria

#7 Jul 9, 2012
The fyromians will deny whatever he says, they will call him "predavnik", "tatar", they will say he is paid to say such things and whatever other stupid sh*t their inferiority complex dictates them to do.

But it is rather funny when you think about it - soon they will tear each other apart because they are not quite certain whether they are "anticki pederi", "sloveni" or just a plain old fruit salad. This is what happens when you let monkeys out of their cages.
Macedonia is Greece

Athens, Greece

#8 Jul 9, 2012
no scopi answers? hehehehe
they will say he is a traitor hehehehe

“FATHER OF THE MACEDONIANS”

Since: May 09

THESSALONIKI-MACEDONIA-HELLAS

#9 Jul 9, 2012
LJUBCO GEORGIEVSKI (Former Fyrom's PM & Vice President) SMASHES PSEUDOMACEDONISM IN FYROM BY USING POWERFUL INSIGHT TO DESTROY FYROMIAN MYSTIFICATIONS & MYTHS UPON THE ISSUE OF THE FYROMIAN ETHNOGENESIS:
MYTH No 1:
FYROMIANS ARE RELATED TO ANCIENT MACEDONIANS.
THIS IS WRONG. PAEONIANS, DARDANIANS, ILLYRIANS & THRACIANS, WERE MAINLY INHABITING WHAT TODAY IS CALLED FYROM, CENTURIES BEFORE THE CONQUEST OF THE AREA BY PHILIP II OF MACEDON AND KEPT ON DWELLING IT LONG AFTER THE ARRIVAL OF THE ROMANS. SO LJUBCO GEORGIEVSKI WONDERS WHY FYROMIANS DON'T CLAIM ANCESTRY FROM PAEONIANS, DARDANIANS, ILLYRIANS OR THRACIANS, INSTEAD OF CLAIMING ANCESTRY FROM ANCIENT MACEDONIANS...?
MYTH No 2:
ANCIENT MACEDONIA MATCH WITH TODAY'S FYROM'S BORDERS.
THIS IS WRONG, ANCIENT MACEDONIA IS TOTALLY LOCATED IN GREECE WITH A SMALL EXCEPTION OF PELAGONIA REGION.
LJUBCO GEORGIEVSKI CONCLUDES:''...THESE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS ARE NOT IN TOUCH WITH US!''
ENJOY IT:

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“FATHER OF THE MACEDONIANS”

Since: May 09

THESSALONIKI-MACEDONIA-HELLAS

#10 Jul 9, 2012
IN THIS FOLLOWING VIDEO LJUBCO GEORGEVSKI (ex FYROM PM) ADMITS ON CAMERA THAT FYROMS NATIONAL HEROES (ACTUALLY FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD THEY ARE BULGARIANS) LIKE GOCE DELCHEV & DAME GRUEV GAVE DEATH SENTENCES TO THOSE WHO CLAIMED ANCESTRY FROM ANCIENT MACEDONIANS, BECAUSE ACTUALLY THIS WAS THE GREEK THESIS FOR MACEDONIA.
TODAY HE ADDS THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THAT FYROMIANS ARE NOT RELATED TO ANCIENT MACEDONIANS IS REGARDED AS A TRAITOR.
AND QUITE SHOCKING INDEED, HE ENDS UP ACCUSING TODAYS FASCIST REGIME OF FYROM OF TRYING TO STEAL THINGS FROM GREEKS, BULGARIANS & ALBANIANS.
WATCH IT:

“FATHER OF THE MACEDONIANS”

Since: May 09

THESSALONIKI-MACEDONIA-HELLAS

#11 Jul 9, 2012
LJUBCO GEORGIEVSKI (former Prime Minister and Vice President of Fyrom):
PHILIP, ALEXANDER THE GREAT AND ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WERE ...GREEKS!
ENJOY IT:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FYROMINJA#p/a
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#12 Jul 26, 2012
http://www.balkans.com/open-news.php...
What a shame to be pseudonation FyroMonkey!
its me

Hamilton, Canada

#13 Jul 26, 2012
FYROMians are liars and thieves. Them stealing from Greeks isn't that bad though.
Miss Macedonia

Greece

#14 Oct 5, 2012
mr large wrote:
why would your former prime minister say this. mina today wrote a critique of the pm's statement and said he was mentally ill. just like you looooosers to lie . not only the worlds' scholars but your own prime minister says you are liars.
Even fyromians themselves accept that they are not Macedonians!
What you want more stupid fyromongolic parasites?
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Thessaloníki, Greece

#15 Nov 19, 2012
http://youtu.be/H6aFucV9EtM
Correct,Fyromians are carnaval nation!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Thessaloníki, Greece

#17 Nov 19, 2012
The Albanization of FYROM wrote:
"Ljubco Georgievski – former PM of FYROM – reaches the conclusion that the Slavs of FYROM are “the greatest forgerers of the Balkan History” and will have “ cursed mothers’ milk , because they have been damned by St Clement and Naum“, as a publication in FYROM claims that uses as source the Serbian newspaper Vecernje Novosti."
FFF = Fyrom FCUKED FOREVER!
http://youtu.be/H6aFucV9EtM
Correct!
samostojna MK

Canberra, Australia

#18 Nov 19, 2012
Why would you Greeks take whats not yours/
You sim to be apoled by "FYROMians"atitude, as you put it, mildly. Wanting whats not theirs.
Who are you? and what are you doing to Macedonian identity?
To which we have right.
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Thessaloníki, Greece

#19 Nov 19, 2012
The Albanization of FYROM wrote:
"Ljubco Georgievski – former PM of FYROM – reaches the conclusion that the Slavs of FYROM are “the greatest forgerers of the Balkan History” and will have “ cursed mothers’ milk , because they have been damned by St Clement and Naum“, as a publication in FYROM claims that uses as source the Serbian newspaper Vecernje Novosti."
FFF = Fyrom FCUKED FOREVER!
http://youtu.be/H6aFucV9EtM
Ljubco Georgievski says the truth!

“"MAKEDONKA"”

Since: Jul 08

Bitola

#25 Nov 19, 2012
You Hell-ass know all about being thief’s you’re all corrupt!!

Fix your country’s problems first.

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“"MAKEDONKA"”

Since: Jul 08

Bitola

#26 Nov 19, 2012
Say thank you Hell-ass to the families that ruled you in debat!

List of political families in Greece

This article lists families where two or more members of that family have been members or ministers of the Hellenic Parliament, the Greek Senate or of the European Parliament.

Gerasimos Arsenis (born 1931): PASOK MP and Minister for National Economy (1982–1985), Economics (1984–1985), Mercantile Marine (1985), Defence (1993–1996), and Education (1996–2000) his wife Louka Katseli,(born 1952): PASOK MP and Minister for the Economy, Competitiveness and Shipping (2009-2010) and Minister for Labour and Social Security (2010–today). Georgios Gennimatas (1939–1994): PASOK MP and Minister for the Interior (1981–1984), Health (1984–1987), Labour (1987–1989) and National Economy (1989, 1993–1994)
his daughter Fofi Gennimata (born 1964): PASOK MP and super-prefect for Athens and Piraeus (2003–2009), Deputy Minister for Health (2009–2010) and Education (2010-today)
Konstantinos Karamanlis (1907–1998): Greek Rally MP, founder of National Radical Union, Prime Minister 1955–63 and 1974–80, President of the Republic 1980–85 and 1990–95.
his brother Achilleas Karamanlis (born 1929): MP and cabinet minister his son Kostas Karamanlis (born 1956): New Democracy MP, Prime Minister 2004–09
his first cousin Michalis Liapis, New Democracy MP and former Minister for Culture
Michail Kyrkos (1893-1967): MP for the Liberal Party, Progressive Party, People's Party and the United Democratic Left. his son Leonidas Kyrkos (1924–2011), MP for the United Democratic Left, MP and MEP for the Communist Party of Greece (Interior), MP for the Coalition of the Left and Progress. Konstantinos Mitsotakis (born 1918): Liberal Party, Centre Union and New Democracy MP, cabinet minister 1978–81, Prime Minister 1990–93 his son-in-law Pavlos Bakoyannis (1935–1989): New Democracy MP, assassinated by 17N his daughter Dora Bakoyannis (born 1954): New Democracy MP, cabinet minister 1992–93 and 2006–09, Mayor of Athens 2003–06 his son Kyriakos Mitsotakis (born 1968): New Democracy MP his son Nikitas Venizelos, MP for Chania, vice-speaker of the Greek Parliament his nephew Kyriakos Mitsotakis, New Democracy MP
his son Konstantinos Mitsotakis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_politica ...
Now see this; Reuters Report “Curtain Falling on Greece’s Ruling Dynasts”
Posted on 09 December 2011 by Stella Tsolakidou Tags: Greek political system, nepotism, Reuters agency, ruling families. According to Reuters’ report “Curtain Falling on Greece’s Ruling Dynasts”, the end for the ruling political families in Greece is very near.
The report is explaining all the reasons why the political situation in Greece is bound to change but underlines that “nepotism and patronage are so deeply rooted, and family and clan loyalties so strong, that change will not come quickly”.
“Political culture doesn’t change overnight and Greek politics is in many ways personalistic and polarized, where the name of the family is far more important than any other credentials,” told Othon Anastasakis, director of Southeast European studies at Britain’s Oxford University to Reuters.
The current recession, however, has brought a wind of change in relative opinion polls, showing that leading PASOK and ND parties are no longer getting the former support from the Greek people as they used to.
The Karamanlis, Papandreou and Mitsotakis families have ruled Greece for almost 50 years in rotation, rendering their names the only qualification for getting at least a seat in parliament. This nepotism had turned the Greek political system into a closed profession, leaving no room for new people and new ideas.

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2011/12/09/re...

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