Knicks should end the Stephon Marbury...

Knicks should end the Stephon Marbury saga now

There are 28 comments on the Newsday story from Nov 26, 2008, titled Knicks should end the Stephon Marbury saga now. In it, Newsday reports that:

So here we are again, all set for the story that just won't go away about to rear its ugly head.

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tjrover

Spring Valley, NY

#21 Nov 27, 2008
and before it was D'Antoni's fault it was Isiah Thomas' fault, and before that it was Larry Brown's fault.

Poor Marbury.

Maybe D'Antoni just sees Marbury for what he is, a locker room cancer, coach killer, and a player unable to make his team any better regardless of whatever stats he may put up. No coincidence that all 3 of his former teams became elite teams after he left.
Yamaha rider

Saint Petersburg, FL

#22 Nov 27, 2008
HarleyRyder wrote:
I am OK with the Knicks not playing Marbury, for whatever their reasons. But I also don't blame Marbury for not playing when they need him. In all fairness, they set the rules, and he's playing by them.
I also don't blame Marbury for buying one of those new Hybrid motorcycles to cruise around on.

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_may2006/1stHyb...

“Let's go Yankees”

Since: Jul 08

Long Island

#23 Nov 28, 2008
Ex-Knick fan wrote:
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Mr. Harley or whatever you call yourself
I was not there but LOGIC tells me that he most certainly DID NOT REFUSE. what happened was D'Phony approached Steph and said "we have 25 to 30 minutes for you because Jamal was traded”. And Steph said "I thought I was not in the plans and you were going in another direction (in other words biitch what?) D'phony being the biitch **** dude that he is could not handle such a retort and just smiled and said "Okay I understand". Translation- Your coach could not handle the heat that he himself created. Steph is from Brooklyn and acts like any brother that hails from that borough
Steph! My brother keep talking that **** and let them know how we do in Brooklyn. Send Dan Phony back to Italy and tell him to take that sorry as 1st round pick with him.
As you said yourself, he was offered time on the court, and refused. I don't blame him for doing so, based on how this year has gone, but he did refuse. And it happened again, and he is now suspended for a game for doing so. He makes a lot of money, and I'm sure he can afford a 200G hit. How many of those he takes is up to him. Steph has always had the talent to exceed, he just didn't have the head for it.

As for D'Antoni, it sure doesn't seem like he's going anywhere for quite a while.
Ex-Knick fan

United States

#24 Nov 28, 2008
HarleyRyder wrote:
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As you said yourself, he was offered time on the court, and refused. I don't blame him for doing so, based on how this year has gone, but he did refuse. And it happened again, and he is now suspended for a game for doing so. He makes a lot of money, and I'm sure he can afford a 200G hit. How many of those he takes is up to him. Steph has always had the talent to exceed, he just didn't have the head for it.
As for D'Antoni, it sure doesn't seem like he's going anywhere for quite a while.
I feel you and understand your take. However i don't mean to sound like a Steph apologist but again I don't think D'Antonio's take is completely accurate in Steph refusing again. The players union has already put out a statement that the fine and suspension were baseless. In D'Antonio's own words he told Steph that the starting SG position was his for the REST OF THE YEAR. Now as a fan of the Knicks i would have wanted Steph to say yeah coach i'm all yours. That being said as a bigger fan of human decency and protecting ones own best interest for Steph to have accepted that would have been foolish because that would have voided the buyout talks and he would have been forced to sit thru and be blamed for another 23 win season. Sure he could have show cased his talents to the rest of the league but why do it for a coach who has proven himself to be a very dishonest person with personal grudges that stem back YEARS...

I suspect after Steph is long gone the relationship between coach and GM will be strained because no doubt Donnie did not want things to go down this way and does not appreciate D'Antonio putting him is such a precarious position. It's doubtful that he will be here in 2010 to coach LeBron or anyone else they sign with that cap space.

“Let's go Yankees”

Since: Jul 08

Long Island

#25 Nov 29, 2008
Ex-Knick fan wrote:
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I feel you and understand your take. However i don't mean to sound like a Steph apologist but again I don't think D'Antonio's take is completely accurate in Steph refusing again. The players union has already put out a statement that the fine and suspension were baseless. In D'Antonio's own words he told Steph that the starting SG position was his for the REST OF THE YEAR. Now as a fan of the Knicks i would have wanted Steph to say yeah coach i'm all yours. That being said as a bigger fan of human decency and protecting ones own best interest for Steph to have accepted that would have been foolish because that would have voided the buyout talks and he would have been forced to sit thru and be blamed for another 23 win season. Sure he could have show cased his talents to the rest of the league but why do it for a coach who has proven himself to be a very dishonest person with personal grudges that stem back YEARS...
I suspect after Steph is long gone the relationship between coach and GM will be strained because no doubt Donnie did not want things to go down this way and does not appreciate D'Antonio putting him is such a precarious position. It's doubtful that he will be here in 2010 to coach LeBron or anyone else they sign with that cap space.
I think Walsh is partially to blame on this. I think the plan between Walsh & D'Antoni was to get rid of him prior to the start of the season. It should come as no suprise that didnt happen, due to the size of his contract, and then the problems started. Either way, it will be over soon enough. Steph was disrespected, no dount. But when asked to play he made a choice, one that I may have made myself if in the same situation, but we have to pay for the choices we make.

As for the players union making those statements, that was very predictable. What else could they say?

“Let's go Yankees”

Since: Jul 08

Long Island

#26 Nov 29, 2008
Ex-Knick fan wrote:
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I feel you and understand your take. However i don't mean to sound like a Steph apologist but again I don't think D'Antonio's take is completely accurate in Steph refusing again. The players union has already put out a statement that the fine and suspension were baseless. In D'Antonio's own words he told Steph that the starting SG position was his for the REST OF THE YEAR. Now as a fan of the Knicks i would have wanted Steph to say yeah coach i'm all yours. That being said as a bigger fan of human decency and protecting ones own best interest for Steph to have accepted that would have been foolish because that would have voided the buyout talks and he would have been forced to sit thru and be blamed for another 23 win season. Sure he could have show cased his talents to the rest of the league but why do it for a coach who has proven himself to be a very dishonest person with personal grudges that stem back YEARS...
I suspect after Steph is long gone the relationship between coach and GM will be strained because no doubt Donnie did not want things to go down this way and does not appreciate D'Antonio putting him is such a precarious position. It's doubtful that he will be here in 2010 to coach LeBron or anyone else they sign with that cap space.
FYI: I believe it was you who said previously something like "why would Lebron want to come here and play for them"? My son went to the Cavs game the other night, in which Lebron got a huge ovation from the crowd. What I didn't know until last night was.....my son told me when he left the game all the outside hotdog vendors were giving out free hotdogs, compliments of Lebron! Apparently he sent someone outside to pay all the vendors for all their hotdogs, and had them give them away, as a way of saying thank you. I thought that was pretty cool and classy!

I LEVEL

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#27 Nov 29, 2008
Put him on waivers or buy him out, this has turned into a soap opera that the team dosen't need if it plans to make the playoffs.
This should have been taken care of before the season started if he wasn't going to be in the team plans.
Management still holds the cards and they need to make it happen.
lee

Jonesville, LA

#28 Dec 2, 2008
Ex-Knick fan wrote:
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It may be ghetto to you but it is home to many good people. steph makes 20mill plus a year so it goes without saying that he no longer lives in the inner city, but was that the point? 90% of the players in the league come from the inner city. What's your point genius? My only point is Steph being from Brooklyn can obviously handle the vitriol being thrown at him from the press, ignorant fans like yourself and that weak as Italian dude that you all call a coach. Wait until Steph is gone. D'Antonio's skin is too thin for NY.
When you can walk through Brooklyn, Bedstuy, Brownsville, Flatbush, Crown Heights, or East NY without being robbed, rape, or shot by a driveby after dark, then talk to me. I've worked and lived in Brooklyn for a while. Steph is just a product of his environment.

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