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After Texas two-step, Lakers forward Gasol can cool his heels

There are 135 comments on the LA Daily News story from Mar 14, 2009, titled After Texas two-step, Lakers forward Gasol can cool his heels. In it, LA Daily News reports that:

Talk about a Texas two step. Pau Gasol went toe-to-toe with Yao Ming of the Houston Rockets on Wednesday and Tim Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs on Thursday.

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Sammy

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#23 Mar 16, 2009
rrenault wrote:
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Wade is not even in the race for MVP, so forget about it.
KB and LB are the only 2 choices
Thank you.

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#24 Mar 16, 2009
van wrote:
Kobe still deserves to be the MVP! He is the MVP!
lebron "king" james is by far more deserving of the mvp over kobe "crybaby" bryant. d-wade is more deserving of the mvp over kobe. so by the end of the season the standings should be 1. lebron james 2. dwayne wade 3. kobe bryant.
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#25 Mar 16, 2009
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lebron "king" james is by far more deserving of the mvp over kobe "crybaby" bryant. d-wade is more deserving of the mvp over kobe. so by the end of the season the standings should be 1. lebron james 2. dwayne wade 3. kobe bryant.
yeah but your not biased against kobe or anything Im sure.

btw, how'd you like that ass kickin the lakes put on the spurs?

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#26 Mar 16, 2009
Water Boy wrote:
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yeah but your not biased against kobe or anything Im sure.
btw, how'd you like that ass kickin the lakes put on the spurs?
i have said for a long time up until this year that kobe was the best player in the league. to me, it just seems like king james is doing more for his team than kobe. as far as the spurs/lakers game, im pretty sure its not a jump ball when duncan goes up for a shot and gets slapped in the arm by lamar odom. but apparently thats a new rule the nba put in over the last week. and an @$$ kickin'? i didnt know a game coming down to the last minute was considered kicking someones @$$. somebody must of redefined that word in the last week to.
Water Boy

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#27 Mar 16, 2009
I agree that king james leads the MVp race but I believe Kobe to be the best player in the league.

an ass kickin is an ass kickin any way you look at it. It sucks when you lose. losing by 2 or 50 is still a loss, still an ass kickin...

anyway, for a bulls fan you spend an awful lot of time in Laker forums hating on Kobe.

You and tiffany Twins?

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#28 Mar 16, 2009
Jeebs wrote:
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i have said for a long time up until this year that kobe was the best player in the league. to me, it just seems like king james is doing more for his team than kobe. as far as the spurs/lakers game, im pretty sure its not a jump ball when duncan goes up for a shot and gets slapped in the arm by lamar odom. but apparently thats a new rule the nba put in over the last week. and an @$$ kickin'? i didnt know a game coming down to the last minute was considered kicking someones @$$. somebody must of redefined that word in the last week to.
Waith hold on, just cause LB is doing more for his team doesn't make him better then KB.

LB could win the MVP this year still he is not a better player then KB, it only means he is the Most Value Player to his team end of story.

At this moment KB still a better Defender and has a better offensive arsenal then LB and any one else in the league for that matter.

Who still more clutch the KB? who has more ice in his veins then KB? No one.

You shouldn't be writing about the Lamar/Duncan moment, cause that block LB got on Phoenix's Jason Richardson, LB never hit that ball, but since it was LB it was called a block any one else is an easy call for a foul.

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#29 Mar 16, 2009
Water Boy wrote:
I agree that king james leads the MVp race but I believe Kobe to be the best player in the league.
an ass kickin is an ass kickin any way you look at it. It sucks when you lose. losing by 2 or 50 is still a loss, still an ass kickin...
anyway, for a bulls fan you spend an awful lot of time in Laker forums hating on Kobe.
You and tiffany Twins?
People hate on KB cause, what he represents, bulls fans hate to admit the KB got more game the
MJ and Tiff cause is clear that KB got more game then Wade.
Sammy

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#30 Mar 16, 2009
Water Boy wrote:
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yeah but your not biased against kobe or anything Im sure.
btw, how'd you like that ass kickin the lakes put on the spurs?
lol

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#31 Mar 17, 2009
rrenault wrote:
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Waith hold on, just cause LB is doing more for his team doesn't make him better then KB.
LB could win the MVP this year still he is not a better player then KB, it only means he is the Most Value Player to his team end of story.
At this moment KB still a better Defender and has a better offensive arsenal then LB and any one else in the league for that matter.
Who still more clutch the KB? who has more ice in his veins then KB? No one.
You shouldn't be writing about the Lamar/Duncan moment, cause that block LB got on Phoenix's Jason Richardson, LB never hit that ball, but since it was LB it was called a block any one else is an easy call for a foul.
lebron is much better than kobe this year and i believe he has passed kobe this year to make him the best in the league.

you saying kobe is the most clutch player in the league? uhh, i have to disagree with that to. i think roger mason has been more clutch, and im not just saying that because im a spurs fan either.

i didnt watch the cavs/suns game, so i cant say if it were a foul or not. but odom clearly slapped duncan on the arm when he went up for a shot and then grabbed the ball like he was trying to get it. i just wanna know when they changed that rule in the last week or so.

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#32 Mar 17, 2009
Jeebs wrote:
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lebron is much better than kobe this year and i believe he has passed kobe this year to make him the best in the league.
you saying kobe is the most clutch player in the league? uhh, i have to disagree with that to. i think roger mason has been more clutch, and im not just saying that because im a spurs fan either.
i didnt watch the cavs/suns game, so i cant say if it were a foul or not. but odom clearly slapped duncan on the arm when he went up for a shot and then grabbed the ball like he was trying to get it. i just wanna know when they changed that rule in the last week or so.
Yes, Lebron is better then KB this year as in Most Valueable player to his team, but not as a better player.

KB still the best defender out the 2 and has a better repertoire of moves then LB.
That KB's cast gives him the luxury of not having to show them every nite like he used to 3 season ago is whole different story.

Sorry, but no roger mason is not more clutch the KB, sure Mason made 3 big shot this season, but doesn't even come close to the many clutch shots KB sank this season, not to mention in the past.

Come on, You know You can check it out in You tube the sus/cavs game.

The rule has not changed, but the ref is the one the decides when the arm is part of the ball or not.

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#33 Mar 18, 2009
rrenault wrote:
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Yes, Lebron is better then KB this year as in Most Valueable player to his team, but not as a better player.
KB still the best defender out the 2 and has a better repertoire of moves then LB.
That KB's cast gives him the luxury of not having to show them every nite like he used to 3 season ago is whole different story.
Sorry, but no roger mason is not more clutch the KB, sure Mason made 3 big shot this season, but doesn't even come close to the many clutch shots KB sank this season, not to mention in the past.
Come on, You know You can check it out in You tube the sus/cavs game.
The rule has not changed, but the ref is the one the decides when the arm is part of the ball or not.
lebron is the more important to his team and is the better overall player to. to me when it comes to driving to the lane, lebron is about two twilight years better than kobe, but kobe does have the better long range and jump shot. lebron is also a better defender than kobe. roger mason has been better this season by far more when it comes to clutch situations. obviously kobe has had more clutch shots in his career because this is the first year we have heard anything about him.

and i cant seem to be able to find that clip in youtube. but apparently, duncans entire upper body was part of the ball on that particular play.

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#34 Mar 18, 2009
Jeebs wrote:
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lebron is the more important to his team and is the better overall player to. to me when it comes to driving to the lane, lebron is about two twilight years better than kobe, but kobe does have the better long range and jump shot. lebron is also a better defender than kobe. roger mason has been better this season by far more when it comes to clutch situations. obviously kobe has had more clutch shots in his career because this is the first year we have heard anything about him.
and i cant seem to be able to find that clip in youtube. but apparently, duncans entire upper body was part of the ball on that particular play.
Ha ha ha that was funny, No LB is not, LB is not a better player.
LB size helps him a lot when driving to the basket, but KB can drive as well, KB doesn't have only more range, but he has a lot different post up moves, something that LB doesn't have yet.

Like You said this Mason first year doing it, so no team was aware until this season that he could hit clutch shots, so teams let him open.
Now teams are aware so he won't be let un guarded.

But still KB has made more clutch then Mason this season, Mason just made more on National tv on bigger games.

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#35 Mar 19, 2009
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Ha ha ha that was funny, No LB is not, LB is not a better player.
LB size helps him a lot when driving to the basket, but KB can drive as well, KB doesn't have only more range, but he has a lot different post up moves, something that LB doesn't have yet.
Like You said this Mason first year doing it, so no team was aware until this season that he could hit clutch shots, so teams let him open.
Now teams are aware so he won't be let un guarded.
But still KB has made more clutch then Mason this season, Mason just made more on National tv on bigger games.
lebron is twilight years better than kobe when it comes to driving and playing in the post. and i really dont see how you can sit here and say that kobe has hit more clutch shots than mason. the spurs and lakers are both on national television about the same. i watch sportscenter almost every night just to see whats going on with the rest of the league. every big shot or buzzer beater is always shown and mason it seems like has hit a lot more than kobe.

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#36 Mar 19, 2009
Jeebs wrote:
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lebron is twilight years better than kobe when it comes to driving and playing in the post. and i really dont see how you can sit here and say that kobe has hit more clutch shots than mason. the spurs and lakers are both on national television about the same. i watch sportscenter almost every night just to see whats going on with the rest of the league. every big shot or buzzer beater is always shown and mason it seems like has hit a lot more than kobe.
Easy cause KB is, look before this season no team guarded Mason like a clutch player should be guarded, now team are aware of him and they won't let him take them by surprise, so don't expect teams give him the same space he got early this season.

KB on the other hand has been doing it for a while now, so teams had already made their adjustments and still can't stop him.

Look LB is not twilight years ahead of KB driving to the basket, LB's drives to the basket are base on his size and athleticism that comes from his youth which something very normal, not from his foot work.
Actually LB relies on his athleticism, so much he doesn't use any post moves.

Pls tell me what post moves he has in the post, I haven't see him play with his back against the basket yet.

The reason why Jerry West was so high on KB since the first time he saw him, was cause KB at very Young age not only did he had great athleticism, but had a very good foot work already in place.

That foot work has allow KB to get inside and drive to the basket, since he was 18, when had kid's body.

You keep tellimg me LB is better cause he drives better to the basket then KB, but KB can hold his own driving to the basket, he shows that every night, not only that, but he shows he post up moves and his long range shots as well, and his shot down D when he is ask to do so is a lethal on
the other end of the court.

KB has the whole package and he still can deliver it at the highest the moment he is not able to that he will no longer be the best player.

LB has a very nice D coming from the weak side, but he is not a shutdown defender or at least he has not shown he can do that.

KB can do both types of D.

If You tell me LB is more of an MVP to the Cavs then KB to the Lakers, You can have valid point, although the Lakers had shownt that without KB they can't even beat the bobcats.

But don't mix MVP value with best player on the planet.

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#37 Mar 19, 2009
rrenault wrote:
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Easy cause KB is, look before this season no team guarded Mason like a clutch player should be guarded, now team are aware of him and they won't let him take them by surprise, so don't expect teams give him the same space he got early this season.
KB on the other hand has been doing it for a while now, so teams had already made their adjustments and still can't stop him.
Look LB is not twilight years ahead of KB driving to the basket, LB's drives to the basket are base on his size and athleticism that comes from his youth which something very normal, not from his foot work.
Actually LB relies on his athleticism, so much he doesn't use any post moves.
Pls tell me what post moves he has in the post, I haven't see him play with his back against the basket yet.
The reason why Jerry West was so high on KB since the first time he saw him, was cause KB at very Young age not only did he had great athleticism, but had a very good foot work already in place.
That foot work has allow KB to get inside and drive to the basket, since he was 18, when had kid's body.
You keep tellimg me LB is better cause he drives better to the basket then KB, but KB can hold his own driving to the basket, he shows that every night, not only that, but he shows he post up moves and his long range shots as well, and his shot down D when he is ask to do so is a lethal on
the other end of the court.
KB has the whole package and he still can deliver it at the highest the moment he is not able to that he will no longer be the best player.
LB has a very nice D coming from the weak side, but he is not a shutdown defender or at least he has not shown he can do that.
KB can do both types of D.
If You tell me LB is more of an MVP to the Cavs then KB to the Lakers, You can have valid point, although the Lakers had shownt that without KB they can't even beat the bobcats.
But don't mix MVP value with best player on the planet.
ok, it took me a while to read this post because of the number of missing words but i got through it.

all i am trying to say about roger mason and kobe, is that based on this season, if i had to choose between kobe or mason to take the last second shot, i would choose mason.

and you say that lebron just uses his athleticism instead of using any moves in the post? well i thought being able to using any moves was based on athleticism. another thing i dont get is how you say kobe has great moves when playing down low. yeah he have his back turned toward the basket, but to me it seems like he just does a turnaround jumper or shoots his little fade away. their good, dont get me wrong, but you dont ever see kobe post up and then dunk it on somebody. i guarantee if he did, he would probably just get swatted. the only time he ever dunks the ball is when hes driving to the basket.

i also think that lebron is a better defender than kobe.

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#38 Mar 19, 2009
Jeebs wrote:
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ok, it took me a while to read this post because of the number of missing words but i got through it.
all i am trying to say about roger mason and kobe, is that based on this season, if i had to choose between kobe or mason to take the last second shot, i would choose mason.
and you say that lebron just uses his athleticism instead of using any moves in the post? well i thought being able to using any moves was based on athleticism. another thing i dont get is how you say kobe has great moves when playing down low. yeah he have his back turned toward the basket, but to me it seems like he just does a turnaround jumper or shoots his little fade away. their good, dont get me wrong, but you dont ever see kobe post up and then dunk it on somebody. i guarantee if he did, he would probably just get swatted. the only time he ever dunks the ball is when hes driving to the basket.
i also think that lebron is a better defender than kobe.
Sorry, I am on a IPHONE typing, I was just glad I was able to get all that out....ha ha ha

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#39 Mar 19, 2009
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ok, it took me a while to read this post because of the number of missing words but i got through it.
all i am trying to say about roger mason and kobe, is that based on this season, if i had to choose between kobe or mason to take the last second shot, i would choose mason.
and you say that lebron just uses his athleticism instead of using any moves in the post? well i thought being able to using any moves was based on athleticism. another thing i dont get is how you say kobe has great moves when playing down low. yeah he have his back turned toward the basket, but to me it seems like he just does a turnaround jumper or shoots his little fade away. their good, dont get me wrong, but you dont ever see kobe post up and then dunk it on somebody. i guarantee if he did, he would probably just get swatted. the only time he ever dunks the ball is when hes driving to the basket.
i also think that lebron is a better defender than kobe.
Sorry, but no athleticism and footwork do not go hand and hand most players develop moves later in their careers.
Cause when they are Young they are so full athleticism that they attack the basket 90% cause they have a killer first step as they get old and slower they start working on their out side shot and footwork to create a move.

Kobe has a nice turn around jumper, but he can post up guards and SF down in the post he can split double in the post.
The thing is that since KB is not 6'10, 6'11 or 7'0 when finish his moves, they look like he is jumping cause he needs to put more elavation to get the ball in, but there is some case where he finish them with a finger roll.

I haven't seen LB do any post up moves he mostly drives to the basket, tries to do an off balance shot, or takes an out side shot but I haven't seen him post any one up yet.

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#40 Mar 19, 2009
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Sorry, I am on a IPHONE typing, I was just glad I was able to get all that out....ha ha ha
i was wondering why for some reason all your posts didnt sound like that with about two words missing from every sentence.

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#41 Mar 19, 2009
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Sorry, but no athleticism and footwork do not go hand and hand most players develop moves later in their careers.
Cause when they are Young they are so full athleticism that they attack the basket 90% cause they have a killer first step as they get old and slower they start working on their out side shot and footwork to create a move.
Kobe has a nice turn around jumper, but he can post up guards and SF down in the post he can split double in the post.
The thing is that since KB is not 6'10, 6'11 or 7'0 when finish his moves, they look like he is jumping cause he needs to put more elavation to get the ball in, but there is some case where he finish them with a finger roll.
I haven't seen LB do any post up moves he mostly drives to the basket, tries to do an off balance shot, or takes an out side shot but I haven't seen him post any one up yet.
neither one posts up on a defender a whole lot, but i see lebron do it a whole lot more than kobe. i think i have probably seen kobe do it maybe twice in his entire career and i remember him getting swatted by tyson chandler one time.

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#42 Mar 19, 2009
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neither one posts up on a defender a whole lot, but i see lebron do it a whole lot more than kobe. i think i have probably seen kobe do it maybe twice in his entire career and i remember him getting swatted by tyson chandler one time.
Nah he is done way more then 2 times, he does more when the other teams guard are short.

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