Orlando Magic can't recover from deep hole in 108-102 loss to T...

There are 20 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Jan 4, 2009, titled Orlando Magic can't recover from deep hole in 108-102 loss to T.... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

The Orlando Magic may have the Toronto Raptors ' number on American soil, but that recent ownership continues not to have much value north of the border.

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Aron

Lake Mary, FL

#1 Jan 4, 2009
For the love of God. Trade Hedo and J.J. Otis!!!!

Since: Oct 08

United States

#2 Jan 4, 2009
Too many fouls in the 4th qtr.
themilkman

Burke, VA

#3 Jan 4, 2009
Hedo/JJ/Foyle for Andrea Barganani/Jason Kapono

Hedo/JJ/ for Boozer (wishful thinking)

Hedo/JJ/ for Udonis Haslem i dont think thats possible though plus that wont help us right now

we NEED SOMEBODY who can score inside...or a slasher somebody who takes it to the rim sorta player!
Dwight plus Boozer would mean a championship though! but probably not gonna happen

“Life's a Beach”

Since: Dec 07

Cocoa Beach

#4 Jan 4, 2009
Not our day! Defense wasn't very good. Letting the Raptors shoot 54% from the field isn't getting it done.

I'll take Dwight and 15 points and 15 rebounds and 3 blocked shots over 39 points and 8 rebounds and 1 blocked shot.

Hedo hasn't played well the last two games so he's due to have a huge game. Jameer played well, but I would like to see at least 6 assists per game. Rashard had 9 assists tonight!

Parker killed us tonight. He couldn't miss. I would of liked to see MP guarding him today. Maybe his 7' wingspan could of slowed him down some.

Cavs lost to the Wizards today and they also lost Zydrunas Ilgauskas for a month. At least we didn't we didn't lose any ground to them today.

Time to kick some Wizards butts and get rolling again!
Cartman

Palm Coast, FL

#5 Jan 4, 2009
Wow, LMAO got his wish; JJ played so poorly no one else will want him. He can now safely ride the pine until he gets his ticket punched to the Israeli league.

How poorly did JJ play? JJ was left in the dust so often he should file a complaint with OSHA.

How poorly? JJ was burned so often the other players complained about second-hand smoke.

Your turn...
;-)
Aron

Lake Mary, FL

#6 Jan 4, 2009
I'm pretty sure Hedo's best days are behind him now even though he is only 29; he just gives up a lot. He seems to always have some sorta dopey white guy play every game and we all know he is going to leave after this season. Better trade him and someone else now for some quality players.

We always seem to get beat by some sorta guard, so when MP gets back (hopefully he will stay healthy) I think he will help defensively.

And another thing, anyone have any idea why J.J. was in and not Lee? Lee probably would have made those last 2 shots that could have tied or gotten the game close and he wouldn’t let people just blow by him for easy buckets.
Drew S

Kissimmee, FL

#7 Jan 4, 2009
Hedo for most unimproved player. I wish I carried my rants over to this message board so I could tell you all I called this one like Jim would - but I didn't.
Here's the problem - Hedo has played the same every year of his career; the good luck streak for him ended last year in the playoffs, not this year...
The good: he's tall and draws the defender in because of his 3 ball - but can also take it to the hoop. This also allows him to make a good pass out.
The bad: Has long streaks of bad play including the most untimely turnovers and is the first on the team to jack up a shot, for no reason, while guarded. He makes some of them but I can make 1/5th of my prayers too (anyone can).
The problem with trading him is he fits into the style so well with Rashard Lewis BUT we all saw what Lewis was capable of when we took Hedo out from under him, he stepped up rebounds, assists, points - he filled much of the void.
So, why are we hanging on to him?
Probably because we aren't going to get what's he worth for him. Anyone better than Hedo has to come from a team that is rebuilding, but that team won't want a 9 year vet. So, here's what it seems like we've stuck to. Keep him until 2010 and let his contract expire, pick up one of the great guys in best free agency in decades...
That doesn't do much for this year.
With the emergence of Lee, and when Air France gets his health back - I say its time to NOT wait. Lets trade him NOW and let our players fill the gap. Lets get a big man that is good for 2 things, ripping down rebounds and hacking whoever hacks Dwight. I think we can get a decent backup for a Hedo Battie combo. Battie will replace the big man that we get (for them a downgrade), but then they add a seasoned starter (for them an upgrade), and we fill the void left behind and get another 9 or 10 rebound a night guy who will put us at the TOP of the rebound category which we SHOULD BE with Dwight, instead of right in the middle.
Who's that guy? I think it should be someone like Drew Gooden! I'd take a Turk and Battie for Gooden straight up trade! Better this year and clear lots of space.
Hmm

Cape Canaveral, FL

#8 Jan 4, 2009
At least the Celtics and Cavs lost tonight! No ground lost.

And for the love of God! We still have the 3rd best record in the east, 4th in the league! Stop bashing the Magic because of one loss! The Raps were on fire. Easily, their best game of the season, and perhaps our worst.

It happens, and good teams typically bounce back.
big vern

Lady Lake, FL

#9 Jan 4, 2009
the magic need to beat teams like raptors, pistons, suns...etc. etc. even the freaking hawks have a winning streak against the magic...come on when is the team going to get over the hump and make believers out of skeptics...if not now I ask you when....otis needs to stop reading the funny's in the toiled pull his head out and make the team a contender for now.........
Psychoriasis

London, UK

#10 Jan 4, 2009
Drew S wrote:
I think it should be someone like Drew Gooden! I'd take a Turk and Battie for Gooden straight up trade! Better this year and clear lots of space.
Didn't we trade Gooden and Varejao for Battie with Cleveland a few years ago? And now we'll trade backwards with the addition of Hedo... Orlando would look really stupid with that move.
JP St Pete

Satellite Beach, FL

#11 Jan 4, 2009
"Hedo for most unimproved player".

Perfect explanation. Trade him ASAP. 1 good game out of 5-7 games...

“Orlando Magic........... ......”

Since: Jul 07

Magic land

#12 Jan 4, 2009
Patience my friends,
Remember how terrible Rashard was at the beginning of the season now he leads the NBA in 3 pointers made.
Hedo is going thru a cold spell he will come out of it soon.
About JJ we where 10 points down when he came in and we reverse the situation with him on the floor.
(NOTE I am not a JJ fan and would trade him for a good point guard any day). Can not win them all folks and specially in and away game.
Lets get those Hawks and start a new winning streak
LMAO

AOL

#13 Jan 4, 2009
Gosh oh Golly. I am sooooooo sorry that I said the Magic wont lose another game and then will sweep the playoffs and beat the Lakers in 6.
I never would have thought that the best team in the east could lose to the Raptors like that.
Oh well, doesnt matter much because as good as the Magic are they wont lose anymore games.
Good thing they let JJ play a few minutes or they would have lost 108 to 94!
:)
Aron

Lake Mary, FL

#14 Jan 4, 2009
The Bulls would never let Gooden go. They don't have enough front court help as it is. If we are talking about bad teams and trades, we should at least consider Brad Miller of the Kings. He would be a nice fit next to Dwight, but I don't think that the Kings will trade him. If we could send Battie and Hedo over for Miller that could work. Miller is easily one of the best passing big men in the league.

Or

Here is another idea. Trade Hedo straight up for Mike Miller. He fills the same spot and isn’t as bone headed as Hedo.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#15 Jan 4, 2009
Hmm wrote:
At least the Celtics and Cavs lost tonight! No ground lost.
And for the love of God! We still have the 3rd best record in the east, 4th in the league! Stop bashing the Magic because of one loss! The Raps were on fire. Easily, their best game of the season, and perhaps our worst.
It happens, and good teams typically bounce back.
I couldn't agree more.

The Raptors couldn't miss tonight (54% compared to our 46% from the floor) and 23 of 24 from the free throw line. The only reason we were able to keep up was our 3-pt shots (15 made/34 attempts, vs their 3 of 12).

Hedo has had some tough times as of late. The same people calling for his head now are the same ones that were looking to trade Jameer last year.

Have some faith, folks! This was only one game! All is well!
Jim

Shreveport, LA

#16 Jan 4, 2009
I don't know if it was the early start or what, but it just seemed like the Magic didn't bring everything they needed to the table today.

The energy and the focus was not there. Especially on the defensive side of the ball. This is not gonna get it done folks.

But you have to give the Raptors credit, they played a solid game. The Magic have only lost two games in a row one time all year. It is a safe bet that they will bounce back with a win Tuesday night against the Wizards.

This is a big game because the next two will be against the Hawks in an away and home situation. It would be great if the Magic could win both of those games and let the Hawks know that they are in control of the division.
Jim

Shreveport, LA

#17 Jan 4, 2009
The strange thing about Hedo is that he could wind up scoring 32 against Washington Tuesday night. He needs to get that consistency back. I think right now he may be pressing a bit. Dude needs to take a chill pill, relax, and get it done.
Jim

Shreveport, LA

#18 Jan 4, 2009
Kong_ wrote:
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I couldn't agree more.
The Raptors couldn't miss tonight (54% compared to our 46% from the floor) and 23 of 24 from the free throw line. The only reason we were able to keep up was our 3-pt shots (15 made/34 attempts, vs their 3 of 12).
Hedo has had some tough times as of late. The same people calling for his head now are the same ones that were looking to trade Jameer last year.
Have some faith, folks! This was only one game! All is well!
Excellent post. Very well said. And to further your point, the Celtics, as great as they have been, have lost like what, 4 out of the last 5 or 6 games ? The Magic to their credit have done a very good job of not going into a deep funk.

So yes this is just one game. The Magic will bounce back as they always do. Sometimes you just have to tip your cap to the opposition. Toronto played a great game today.
Greg

Clearwater, FL

#19 Jan 4, 2009
What good will it serve this team if it ends up 74-8 and loses to Detroit in the first or second round of the playoffs?
Michael in DC not Ocoee

Apopka, FL

#20 Jan 4, 2009
Greg wrote:
What good will it serve this team if it ends up 74-8 and loses to Detroit in the first or second round of the playoffs?
Fortunately, they won't see Detroit in the 1st or 2nd Round of the playoffs.

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