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There are 68 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Apr 2, 2008, titled Rebounding gains focus for the Magic -- Sports, National Basket.... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

The Orlando Magic might have to wait until next season to sort out their depleted frontcourt that suddenly is in a rebounding funk.

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Dont know what you say

Clearwater, FL

#61 Apr 3, 2008
mike wrote:
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To answer your question, I've watched every game(except the 2 or 3 away games that weren't televised). I define 1 dimensional as an offensive trhreat only. RL is getting to the rim more and when he develops a consistent mid range(18-20 ft ala Grant Hill) game he will be a monster on offense but that's it. He doesn't play good D. He doesn't rebound. Some people say that he's playing out of position and that's why but let's get real, he's 28-29 yo and has never been a defensive presence and will never be. So you have Otis going out and giving him a max contract for a shooter. I think he is a good addition to the lineup, but Otis severely overpayed him. And that will kill us over the next 5 years. Jason Richardson would have given us the same thing that RL does for far less money. Just think, for what we payed for RL and JAmeer, the Magic could have signed Chauncey Billups, Vince Carter, and resigned Darko for $6 million per. And I dont care what people say about what Darko is doing in Memphis, he and Dwight complimented each other very well. Talk about filling some holes. How bout Dwight-5, Darko-4, Hedo-3, Vince-2, and Chauncey-1. Now that's assuming Vince and Billups would have came here, but either way I think that Otis could have played his cards a little better. The only way the Magic can get better is if D12 and JN get significantly better. Everyone else is in their prime or past. Again, I enjoy watching the Magic now compared to times past but I just think they are wasting Dwight's best years making too many mistakes to be a serious contender. I do, however, hope that your right and I'm wrong and a couple of little pieces will get us to the promiseland.
They didn't have enough under the cap for the first year of those contracts,they bearly had enough for Lewis contract.That's how it gets done, you can't look at Lewis contract as a whole and add all the contracts it doesn't work that way.

Clearwater, FL

#62 Apr 3, 2008
LMAO wrote:
I'm wit Schmitz..."Beware Agent O"
No problem we will put JJ on him.

“If you say it, back it up”

Since: Jan 08

Ocoee, FL

#63 Apr 3, 2008
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Help me out here.You defend the guy(OS)and then say we are not getting past Detroit in the second round. Isn't that contradicting?
How is that contradicting? I think Otis has done a good job helping us get to this point as the 3rd best in the east. We have vastly improved. How is it contradictory to think...though we have improved... we are still not quite of Detroit's level?

Believe me! I hope I am wrong!!! I'll be cheering all the way. If Otis can go get us one more piece before next season, we will be in the Eastern Finals for the next 5 years!

Palm Bay, FL

#64 Apr 3, 2008
Hedo is 6'10" and does not have near the speed to guard a 2G like Rip Hamilton or Andre Iggy. They need to stop letting the players feelings control the rotation and let either Rashard of Turk come off the bench.

Since: Jun 07

Nanning, China

#65 Apr 4, 2008
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Uhhhh, Pau for one. You don't think the MAgic could of came up with better pieces to give to Memphis than the Lakers did? That would have been the kind of move to "get over the hump" and to the Finals. And that's just one that was traded. There are several more that weren't traded but maybe the MAgic could have got. For example, how about Nick Collison or Wilcox from Seattle??maybe not championship players, but a much better fit that Cook. I'm preety sure that Seattle would have taken expiring contracts for them.
Hey guys skip the expiring contract argument. They are not worth what you think. Dont know why it keeps coming up. There are probably a 100 expiring contracts this coming year. Between San Antonia, Miami, and Dallas you have over 25 expiring contracts. Its a lame argument so get over it.

Pau trade was not done in the open. Practically every team in the NBA could have beaten that deal. That has a Jerry West give to the Lakers written all over it. Every idiot in the league has blogged to their local paper about their GM "why didnt we make that trade?"

Hey you name Wilcox, Collision from Seattle, come on, show your brains. Who you gonna trade from the Magic to get them. Come on, put a deal on the table that they would accept and dont put some stupid Garrity, Nelson, Cook, Vasquez, JJ trade that no team would take for a solid player junk either. You guys complain and howl about, we should get this or that but you never put a realistic trade offer that they would accept and we could actually offer. We already have some idiot wanting to trade Hedo. Show us your brains guy.

Since: Jun 07

Nanning, China

#66 Apr 4, 2008
Dont know what you say wrote:
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They didn't have enough under the cap for the first year of those contracts,they bearly had enough for Lewis contract.That's how it gets done, you can't look at Lewis contract as a whole and add all the contracts it doesn't work that way.
Who says we cant do things. There are teams over the cap every year and make trades, get free agents, etc. We are not in trouble in that department. Why is it so hard for people to understand that teams are pieced together year by year. For the last 3 years we have added some good pieces every year. What makes you think that is going to stop. Look at the crowd of people that went to LA when Shaq and Kobie eat up all their cap room. Look at Miami and the people that went there. Boston is drawing a crowd and they gutted that team for a couple of stars but the crowd shows up even though they dont have cap space. You think players in this league havnt noticed the Magic. Jason Kidd stated he would love to go to Orlando and Charles Barkley mentioned that free agents will start heading there. We dont need anymore big pieces, we only need a couple of good fits.

Since: Mar 07

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#67 Apr 4, 2008
Rebounding should be an absolute priority for every team, for every second of every game. It is about controlling the ball - you don't win many games if you do let the opposition have more posessions. That is why it is imperative that Orlando use the draft or the mid-level to get Dwight some help on the boards this summer. It's a given that we have enough offense in the team - Howard, Turk and Lewis will score, and are capably backed up by the likes of Nelson, Arroyo, Dooling, Evans, Bogans, etc. A 4 who can rebound and defend the post is the absolute priority for the summer, followed by, if possible, and upgrade at the point or shooting guard position (given that if Orlando acquire a power forward, Turk or Lewis will play some '2', with Bogans, Redick and if they are re-signed Evans and Dooling all capable role players at SG, I would say look for improvement at the point guard position). Any PF who they get doesn't have to be an offensive force, but someone who fits the system, and can knock down the jumper out to 15-18 feet would be preferable. A guy like Jason Thompson, Darrell Arthur or JJ Hickson might be able to help, assuming Orlando doesn't do a deal to move up in the draft.

One other thing - for the season, Orlando is outrebounding their opponents 41.9 - 41.4 per game, so whilst it is clearly a weakness, and that advantage is mainly due to Dwight Howard's superhuman efforts on the glass, they haven't exaclty been pounded night in and night out. For a team playing a 220lb small forward against opposing 4s, they have come out ok.
Rebounding Machine

Tavares, FL

#68 Apr 4, 2008
Rebounding is not MOSTLY about effort, as "Forrest Trump" said. it is about some effort, some skill, some timing, and some being in the right place at the right time. You can try like hell, but if you are 6'2" and the other guy is 6'7", he is going to rebound over you all day. The problem is neither Hedo nor Rashard (both 6'7") are good jumpers so they lose rebounds to others who are the same height (or even a little shorter) than them. The other problem is that even though they play forward positions, they are perimeter players in the offense. So when the opportunity for a rebound comes, chances are, they are standing around the three-point line.

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