Season is lost; now it's time to move...

Season is lost; now it's time to move O'Neal, rebuild team from...

There are 151 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Apr 16, 2007, titled Season is lost; now it's time to move O'Neal, rebuild team from.... In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

" I wrote it a few weeks ago and I will write it again: The Pacers are wheeling and dealing their way straight to the NBA draft lottery.

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special ed

Covington, KY

#1 Apr 16, 2007
Can't disagree with Bob here. Even that Al Harrington re-up, I asked why way back then.
The only disagreement is whether the freefall is complete.
BAP

AOL

#2 Apr 16, 2007
Can't win them all, baby. Somebodies got to lose and the Pacers are the team. It's all about money and when the fans don't get their monies worth is where the problem really lies.
Craig

United States

#3 Apr 16, 2007
No, it's not the same, Bob. We're not a "lottery team" because we have ZERO picks in this year's draft! Atlanta has our lottery pick, remember? And we needed to have the tenth worst record to get that pick back...and we couldn't even do that! Then our second round pick went toward a player that couldn't even make the team. There might be a brain in the Pacer's front office...but it's a Bird Brain to be sure.
Isiah Thomas

Ft Mitchell, KY

#4 Apr 16, 2007
I buried the CBA, laid the groundwork for the Pacers meltdown and I'm riding the Knicks all the way to Hell!!!!! They just keep throwing more money at me!!!!!!! Is this a great country, or what?
Craig

United States

#5 Apr 16, 2007
After our coach gets fired, it's only right that Bird should come back down to the sidelines and try to coach this group of zombies...after all, he brought them all here. Let him try to win with them.
Zeke

Ft Mitchell, KY

#6 Apr 16, 2007
I really feel this team needs to be blown up -- starting with the front office. Walsh's majic seems to be gone, and Larry's legend is tarnishing more daily. JO is a great player, but he's not the rock on which to build a church. And I truly believe that no matter what moves the Pacers make in the off season (short of getting Oden or Durant), the fans will not embrace this team again until Tinsley and Daniels are gone. Those two will always be a reminder, and part of the reason for the sinking of a once great franchise.
DumpONeal

Noblesville, IN

#7 Apr 16, 2007
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. ONeal is not a player to build a franchise around. Case in point, the Miami game. He "forced" and missed 3 shots in the last minute of the game, with the Pacers down one, because he wanted to be "the man." He's never been the man, and never will be. He's at best a 2nd option. He's never been able to hit the big shot and you can't be the leader of the team if you can't take the team on your back and win a few games. How many times has he scored 30 or more points and the Pacers lost anyway? Quite a few because when it comes down to crunch time, Carlisle puts the ball in his hands, and we lose the game. Maybe it's coaching. Carlisle is like some robot out there. He never changes it up. You always know what's coming from the Pacers, especially when ONeal is in the game.

The Pacers should have known these things at the end of last season and dumped ONeal and Carlisle then. Instead, the Cavaliers got our coach and the chances of us getting a draft pick are slim to none. Congratulations Walsh and Bird!! You've done a wonderful job placing a doormat on the NBA steps for some time to come!!
Anonymous

Beecher, IL

#8 Apr 16, 2007
Craig wrote:
No, it's not the same, Bob. We're not a "lottery team" because we have ZERO picks in this year's draft! Atlanta has our lottery pick, remember? And we needed to have the tenth worst record to get that pick back...and we couldn't even do that! Then our second round pick went toward a player that couldn't even make the team. There might be a brain in the Pacer's front office...but it's a Bird Brain to be sure.
That's not entirely true. The Pacers only surrender their pick to the Hawks if it is 11th or worse. Depending on how the lottery ends up, the Pacers could get into the top ten and keep their pick for this season.
Anonymous

Beecher, IL

#9 Apr 16, 2007
Whoops. Just saw that you said that. I didn't read your post the whole way.
CAROL COLVIN

Stockton, CA

#10 Apr 16, 2007
I am tired of hearing about the brawl. Let it die. Who gives a $@#(* now. Let's go forward. Why can't we get rid of Tinsley? He can be good (if he wants to) but we need him to want to a lot more.And JO (as I have said before has passed his best season as well as Carlisle). We have some really good players in the last deal they made, work with them and pass around the points to whoever is the hottie of the moment. No team should be all centered around one person. TEAMWORK is the only. I believe that Armstron is also one of the best shot in the arm that we need. He provides humor as well as talent. I like all the players, but feel that perhaps the problem is on the coaching end. I am a PACER FAN, so I'm not giving up. Forget about the playoffs and concentrate. I heard on TV this morning that someone suggested that Reggie come back and coach. If he would do it, we would be most fortunate.Thank you for letting me spout off.
Marty Katz

Falls Church, VA

#12 Apr 16, 2007
Bob Kravitz is...RIGHT for a change? No...WAY! Amazing that INDIANAPOLIS can have a SUPERBOWL CHAMPION AND...a columnist that can "see"-the future! Okay,Bob...you were rrrrriiight...on the PACERS this year. You have "earned the right to keep writing your column. We WILL be back!
Marty Katz

Falls Church, VA

#13 Apr 16, 2007
Oh...one more thing to add: Can Bob Kravitz or anyone else know EXACTLY when the NBA LOTTERY is??? I haven't been this excited about that since 1985!
Keith

United States

#14 Apr 16, 2007
Happiest man in the NBA: Austin Croshere.
Dr Bone Crusher

Chicago, IL

#15 Apr 16, 2007
Please come see me Bob. I am sure your arm needs to be worked on from patting yourself on the back.
Jesse

Indianapolis, IN

#16 Apr 16, 2007
At least we still have the COLTS!!!!

4 months and counting!!

Go Peyton!!!!!!!!
REALITY Hits

Indianapolis, IN

#17 Apr 16, 2007
Simons: HOW LONG will you keep an incompetent coach and his partner BIRD? These hick boys don't know anything about coaching or recognizing talent. They are the worse duo since Albert and Costello...Get rid of them. And don't forget Walsh: He caved in to the incompetence of Bird and now he can't recognize talent. If you want people to return to the games, START OVER FROM THE TOP DOWN.. I will not support the Pacers until changes have been made. No more trading starters for less than average, slow, shouldn't be in the NBA BENCH WARMERS...IF YOU KEEP J.O. GET SOME TALENT AT THE POINT AND AT CENTER...IF YOU TRADE HIM GET THE MOST FOR HIM....STOP SETTLING FOR ANYTHING....
Jim

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Apr 16, 2007
They need to start over, clean house from the top down, get rid of everyone & start over.
Jesse

Indianapolis, IN

#19 Apr 16, 2007
REALITY Hits wrote:
Simons: HOW LONG will you keep an incompetent coach and his partner BIRD? These hick boys don't know anything about coaching or recognizing talent.
Gee, you sound soooooo qualified yourself, why don't you coach the Pacers.

Bird...incompetent?

Did you just crawl out from under a rock?

We're talking about a man with 3 rings, and the only coach to take our team to the NBA Finals.

It isn't Bird's fault that these overpaid players didn't live up to their potential and do their job that they are paid very well for.

Hindsight is always 20/20, especially for you Fairweathers.
Tom

Greenwood, IN

#21 Apr 16, 2007
I would almost bet money that the Pacers win their last 2 games now that they don't matter.
Vicki

Milwaukee, WI

#20 Apr 16, 2007
Do we have a chance to be one of the bottom 10 teams in the league? If not, we lost our first round pick to Atlanta because of the Harrington trade. Trying to make the playoffs was the worst business decision the Pacers could have made. I understand that the players have their pride and want to make the playoffs, but if you step away from the situation and look at the Pacers as a whole, it was a bad move. The Pacers do not have a product that the fans buy in to. I've had 1/2 season tickets for the last 10 years and am not renewing because the Pacers aren't exciting anymore. I'd rather spend my money on other things. The Pacers need to clean house and start from scratch, but without a first round draft pick, that will be difficult to do.

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