Ex-Pacer to plead in club fight

Ex-Pacer to plead in club fight

There are 113 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jun 18, 2007, titled Ex-Pacer to plead in club fight. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Call Star reporter Jon Murray at 444-2752. Former Indiana Pacers player Stephen Jackson has agreed to admit to his role in a melee outside a Westside strip club under a plea bargain that will allow him to avoid ...

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madchemist

Louisville, KY

#25 Jun 18, 2007
Community service???-he's still facing court action in Michigan because he wouldn't do his community service required by brawl agreement. Why would anyone think that he'll do it in Indy?
Kens17

Dow, IL

#26 Jun 18, 2007
What a POS.
Unbelievable

United States

#27 Jun 18, 2007
What kind of example is this?

Paris Hilton goes to jail for DUI and other traffic violations and Stephen Jaackson gets 100 hours and $5000 (pocket change) fine for felony recklessness - shooting a gun that he shouldn't have had because he was already on probation?

I would much rather meet an inebriated Paris Hilton in a dark alley.

Some prosecutor just moved one step closer to being voted out of office.
Shorty

Indianapolis, IN

#28 Jun 18, 2007
mike wrote:
Let the Thug comments begin in 5,4,3,2,1
He is not even worthy of a thug comment. He deserves more than Community Service. Lock the trouble maker up.
World per diverdave

Newport, KY

#29 Jun 18, 2007
The thug should at least receive 30 days jail time. Do these do-gooders believe that he will mend his evil ways?
individual

Chicago, IL

#30 Jun 18, 2007
Exactly how does the citizenry benefit from this plea agreement? What's the benefit of community service? He's not going to pick up litter, is he?
And what good does the fine do the citizens? Sure it puts some monies into the hands of the courts, but it'll be spent on anything other than what benefits the taxpayers.
The statement from prosecutor's office spokesman says it all: no special treatment. And the taxpayers are out the cost of this spokesman. Either say nothing or let the prosecutor speak. Why add to the taxpayers burden especially for an office that does zip.
individual

Chicago, IL

#31 Jun 18, 2007
Soffietti wrote:
I'll have to agree with Solomon, Willford's Attorney, in that Jackson's sentence was extremely generous. He should be banned from the NBA. First, he hits a fan at a game, then he is shooting guns! Good Lord - I'm afriad to attend an NBA basketball game!
If it weren't for the economic boost that the team gives our city, I'd vote to just get rid of the entire Pacer's team. Ever since Reggie retired, the team has turned into a bunch of hoodlum's who can't give a win or any hustle, think they're too cool, and run around at dirty strip joints shooting guns.
We don't need that in Indiana... and we sure don't WANT it.
Exactly how do you measure "economic boost" to Indy from having Pacers? Most of the so-called benefit is merely smoke blowing or plain ole BS. I'd like to see a list of the 'economic boosts' and the dollar value per annum for each.
mr astute

Greenfield, IN

#32 Jun 18, 2007
All of you-cant-do-nothing-wrong meddling people that definitely have way too much time on your hands!--should be so quick to pass judgement on Steven Jackson--by being judge and jury in this very very unusual situation!---In my extremely astute evaluation --Mr.Jackson was only trying to protect himself!----and nothing more than that!---so give him some love ! and quit meddling with every little thing that appears on this media website!--get-it????
Corporate Greed

Fishers, IN

#33 Jun 18, 2007
He was on probation for the Detroit incident when Rio happened. Doesn't probation mean you can't screw up again, or you go to jail?
IndyLawGirl

Indianapolis, IN

#34 Jun 18, 2007
Matthew Symons is a hottie!
Maxwells Hammer

Indianapolis, IN

#35 Jun 18, 2007
Titov Sang the Blues wrote:
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Well, if you read the article, under the plea bargain rules that currently exist in Marion County, the prosecutor's office was able to tender the plea bargain offer based on the fact that Jackson had no prior felonies. If you feel so strongly about it, hire a lawyer and file a friend of the court brief to get it changed. Unless you do that, it's time to move on.
You know allot about the law for a singer. Been in court allot have you. Which side? I don't have to have to put up with any one who break the law. Not once, not twice, and this is the third time for old Stephen. Who can think what you like about the plea deal and maybe they were worried about losing. I prefer to believe Jackson was the one worried, because of all the lies he has comeup with to try to cover is tall. Will see what happens to him in Mich. I cam only hope they have the guts to put this nut job in a place where he is not a threat to the public. One last question singer. What is just one of the rounds he fired hit one of your kids or someone elses. Would he still be in good graces then?
THATS WHAT YOU GET

Wooster, OH

#36 Jun 18, 2007
For those of you in Marion County, what do you expect? The Plea Agreement reflects what your community will tolerate -- in other words, the punishment (community service) for firing a deadly weapon is all that you think it merits.

If it happened in a rural county, he would be doing jail time, regardless of his celebrity status. If you don't think that such use of a firearm is acceptable, then you should either elect people who agree with you, or you should move out of Marion County. As long as recklessness with a deadly weapon is treated so lightly, then you can expect more of it.
the the

Indianapolis, IN

#37 Jun 18, 2007
Titov Sang the Blues wrote:
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Name the current Pacer roster players you consider to be a hoodlum. Apart from Tinsely and Daniels' legal issues, which have yet to be settled, please name for me the other Pacer players who have had legal troubles or have shot guns in strip club. Let's hear your names. Bet you can't name them, because you're just an ignorant Hoosier who would rather stereotype and generalize than speak with an informed opinion or with all the facts.
Last time I checked, the Union contract prevented the NBA from banning anyone for anything other than drug violations. Good luck working that clause into the next contract.
Oh, and by the way, haven't substantially MORE NFL players been arrested for more serious offenses in the last 12 months. Oh, that's right, with their helmets on, you can't generally see that they're black. THAT'S the real reason most Hoosiers hate the Pacers.
you're a douche. we love the pacers...just hate their players. guess what? they aren't all black. i want jeff foster out as bad as I did croshere, and black players like jackson and o`neal. I'm so fucking sick of people playing the race card just because we live in indiana. we had isiah, willingham, mike davis, and dungy all coaching at the same time here. name another state that boasts that list (and gets called racist). stephen jackson wouldn't take responsibility for his actions and people wanted him gone. THE End! Drop the race card and get over it because we are over it here.
Titov Sang the Blues

Milford, CT

#38 Jun 18, 2007
individual wrote:
Exactly how does the citizenry benefit from this plea agreement? What's the benefit of community service? He's not going to pick up litter, is he?
And what good does the fine do the citizens? Sure it puts some monies into the hands of the courts, but it'll be spent on anything other than what benefits the taxpayers.
The statement from prosecutor's office spokesman says it all: no special treatment. And the taxpayers are out the cost of this spokesman. Either say nothing or let the prosecutor speak. Why add to the taxpayers burden especially for an office that does zip.
With the overcrowding in Indiana jails, they were going to have a hard time keeping him in jail if they had gone for a conviction for a first time felon. They tendered the plea bargain, he took it, and now he'll have to face the consequences of the plea bargain with the people in Michigan.

Again, the dude burning down all the houses in Marion County represents a more immediate and serious threat to the city than a barfight that occurred 10 months ago.
bubb rubb

Carmel, IN

#39 Jun 18, 2007
is making it rain across the nation considered community service?
aaack

Monon, IN

#40 Jun 18, 2007
This is further proof that money buys justice.
Titov Sang the Blues

Milford, CT

#41 Jun 18, 2007
Maxwells Hammer wrote:
<quoted text>
You know allot about the law for a singer. Been in court allot have you. Which side? I don't have to have to put up with any one who break the law. Not once, not twice, and this is the third time for old Stephen. Who can think what you like about the plea deal and maybe they were worried about losing. I prefer to believe Jackson was the one worried, because of all the lies he has comeup with to try to cover is tall. Will see what happens to him in Mich. I cam only hope they have the guts to put this nut job in a place where he is not a threat to the public. One last question singer. What is just one of the rounds he fired hit one of your kids or someone elses. Would he still be in good graces then?
The third time for Jackson? Club Rio and the Palace Brawl. That's two.

Your last question is irrelevant because Jackson didn't hit anyone. That's why he was charged with reckless endangerment rather than more serious charges. That would be saying that Dominic Rhodes (remember him, the Colt who was arrested in February) should have been charged with attempted murder because he might have injured someone while driving drunk. Jackson could only be charged to the level of the crime. But, if you feel that the plea bargain is so out of line, then get a lawyer and file a friend of the court brief to get it overturned.

Plea bargains happen all the time, you don't have to be a lawyer to understand that aspect of the legal system.
Titov Sang the Blues

Milford, CT

#42 Jun 18, 2007
the the wrote:
<quoted text>
you're a douche. we love the pacers...just hate their players. guess what? they aren't all black. i want jeff foster out as bad as I did croshere, and black players like jackson and o`neal. I'm so fucking sick of people playing the race card just because we live in indiana. we had isiah, willingham, mike davis, and dungy all coaching at the same time here. name another state that boasts that list (and gets called racist). stephen jackson wouldn't take responsibility for his actions and people wanted him gone. THE End! Drop the race card and get over it because we are over it here.
So, why exactly do you consider Jeff Foster to be a hoodlum? You were asked to name the other Pacers on the roster who you considered to be hoodlums or thugs. You've named Foster. Why exactly did you do that.

If you don't think that racial issues played a factor in the way Davis and especially Willingham were treated by people in Indiana, you're probably not racist, but definitely naive.
Titov Sang the Blues

Milford, CT

#43 Jun 18, 2007
THATS WHAT YOU GET wrote:
For those of you in Marion County, what do you expect? The Plea Agreement reflects what your community will tolerate -- in other words, the punishment (community service) for firing a deadly weapon is all that you think it merits.
If it happened in a rural county, he would be doing jail time, regardless of his celebrity status. If you don't think that such use of a firearm is acceptable, then you should either elect people who agree with you, or you should move out of Marion County. As long as recklessness with a deadly weapon is treated so lightly, then you can expect more of it.
Given the proud racial histories of rural Indiana counties, its safe to say that being black outside of Marion county will get you thrown into jail. The last recorded lynching in the US was in Marion, wasn't it? Not to mention all the Klansmen that are running around.

“everdays my birthday”

Since: May 07

INDIANAPOLIS

#44 Jun 18, 2007
the the wrote:
<quoted text>
you're a douche. we love the pacers...just hate their players. guess what? they aren't all black. i want jeff foster out as bad as I did croshere, and black players like jackson and o`neal. I'm so fucking sick of people playing the race card just because we live in indiana. we had isiah, willingham, mike davis, and dungy all coaching at the same time here. name another state that boasts that list (and gets called racist). stephen jackson wouldn't take responsibility for his actions and people wanted him gone. THE End! Drop the race card and get over it because we are over it here.
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