Pat Riley changes team's recipe for s...

Pat Riley changes team's recipe for success from power game to ...

There are 16 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Feb 14, 2008, titled Pat Riley changes team's recipe for success from power game to .... In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

When the Heat and Suns swapped Shaquille O'Neal and Shawn Marion , they did more than exchange players.

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“Wasilla Moose Chick for Sale”

Since: Aug 07

Definitely Not Wasilla

#1 Feb 15, 2008
People in sports I do not miss and would not miss from the local scene if and when they are gone:

1. Shaq (lazy, awful, a destructive character)
2. Dave Samson
3. Loria
4. Cameron
5. Huizenga
6. Dan Uggla (strike out king and ten some)
7. Mike Jacobs (piano ass, lazy, defensive liability)
8. Fredie Gonzalez ... was awful last year
9. Dan LeBatard's radio show... infantile and Stu Gotz is the worse. Must have photos of someone doing the nasty because his talent is as big as that of a dog turd.
10. Trent Green
11. Commercials by Joe Rose
12. Kyle Wright (awful awful awful)
*. Riley (want to see a coach that likes to develop young players regardless of results. Riley has proven tha the can only do well when he is surrouded by a lot of big all veteran stars and a big center ... all already developed for him. I still think that Wade might not have been as good if Riley had been Wade's coach that first year rather than Van Gundy.
papi

Miami, FL

#2 Feb 15, 2008
Tim Duncan is far from being a traditional big man. Duncan dribbles, shoots, passes etc. Traditional big men are closer to Shaq, Zo, Ewing, Robinson (yesterday), and Kaman, Howard, Ming (today). Small teams win occasionally (Barry-Warriors, Thomas-Pistons, Jordan-Bulls), but big teams win more often because they protect and score from the paint. But regardless of how talent is distributed (post, wing, or perimeter), the key is geeting stops and scores when the big game is on the line. Champions have stoppers and closers somewhere in the lineup. Miami won because Zo made stops and Wade made shots. The Wade-Marion pairing is title-worthy if Riley complimets them properly. Stoppers like Bowen, and shooters like Kerr are not superstars, but they are super important.
Franco

AOL

#3 Feb 16, 2008
Anything that changes the losing style is welcome.......BUT

Trades and drafts are still superior !
Franco

AOL

#4 Feb 16, 2008
Anything that changes the losing style is welcome.......BUT
Trades and drafts are still superior !
Stanislaw

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#5 Feb 16, 2008
Winning is the goal. The Wade/Shaq HEAT did win a championship. If Riley had surrounded Wade with younger talent we could have had something. Shaq is no longer interested in actually working and is running down so we need a new start.
Try finding trades for folks who can play (not who could play 12 years ago) and hope for Derrick Rose in the draft. Of course Miami never wins in the lottery. If Rose and Beasley are gone a big man, maybe DeAndre Jordan, will probably be Riley's choice. You know the way he builds a team.
Go Bluuuue

Orlando, FL

#7 Feb 16, 2008
The Pistons wil, once again, show that TEAM ball is the best ball. The Pistons have b consistently excellent over the years. This year, with a strong and young bench, Detroit will roll in the East.

In the West, they wil kill off each other. Then after the finals, DEEEETROIT BAASKETBALL will, once again, reign supreme.

They do it the right way. And most in the NBA acknowle that.
Hyperdude

Covington, LA

#8 Feb 16, 2008
It sounds like exciting basketball and a challenge for Riley to put together the right pieces and make it work.
He could fall flat on his face or become a coach that wins with two different styles.
As for the Pistons,they're getting old and haven't won anything since dumping Ben Wallace. Same Ol' same ol'
You make chicken salad out of chicken shiit!
Godfrey

Covington, LA

#9 Feb 16, 2008
Go Bluuuue wrote:
The Pistons wil, once again, show that TEAM ball is the best ball. The Pistons have b consistently excellent over the years. This year, with a strong and young bench, Detroit will roll in the East.
In the West, they wil kill off each other. Then after the finals, DEEEETROIT BAASKETBALL will, once again, reign supreme.
They do it the right way. And most in the NBA acknowle that.
How many coaching changes? It must be the coach,HuH? They win in the regular season then lose in the playoffs. They're old and getting older. The worst team in the west could kick thier azzzz!
del

Miami, FL

#10 Feb 16, 2008
What is Shaquille O'Neal's legacy with the Heat?
A championship center who helped deliver on his promise of a championship. Whose services were bought with an expectation of a 2-3 year window to get championship. Management failed to surrond him and wade with enough talent to compete after the 2006 championship, so they discarded him to rebuild, and to help him have a 2-3 year window for 1 more ring, to cement his legacy.
erik

Mount Washington, KY

#11 Feb 16, 2008
Why are the Heat players talking about winning a championship in this "new style" when they cant even get close to .500?
papi

Boca Raton, FL

#12 Feb 16, 2008
Miami's got 2 championship caliber players, and soon they'll be able to add 2 more: one via lottery, another via trade or free agency with Davis' and Williams' expiring contracts. Add Haslem and developing young players like Wright, Cook, and Banks, and by next year Miami will be a top 5 team in the East. Replacing Riley with a younger coach will help also.
HEAT305

Miami, FL

#13 Feb 16, 2008
It takes a little time for these things to happen. There are no easy fixes. I guess Phoenix is looking at the Heat's recent history. When Wade was a rookie, Miami really didn't have a trditional big man, ZO was still out/semi-retired. They were a small ball team and that got to the 2nd round and that's it. Mostly because they were also a really young team. Soon as they acquired Shaq, surrounded him with shooters and Wade being able to get to lane and FT line at will, Miami seemed damn near unstoppable. Phoenix has all of that, now. If Miami can find a serviceable big that can run, with Wade and Marion the East is ripe for the picking. A favorable matchup with a western conf. team and voila, another championship.(it was done 2 years ago, who says they can't do it again?)
HEAT305

Miami, FL

#14 Feb 16, 2008
And really, that's all it boils down to. An eastern conf. team that can match up with a west team. Miami proved it, San An proved it. Remember, Miami and San An got swept by the teams they beat in the finals during the regular season. Miami finished Dallas with 4 in a row, and San An swept the Cavs (who obviously was there by default)
big-kev

Hollywood, FL

#15 Feb 16, 2008
funny how people want to believe that Miami is just a few pieces away from a championship.

Right now miami is like a dude with a new girl, give it a few game and some more losses and fingers will start to point back at Riley.

It's funny how Riley bought himself time with the Shaq trade. nobody looks in his direction. He's still the coach that refused to go up tempo procaiming we don't play that way and now he's playing that way.

it's just fun listening to people talk like there's hope in the near future for us to contend for a championship.

Oh and the fool that wrote this article didn't mention that the reason the pistons smoked the Lakers was not But Sheed was killing all the PF's.

Like how they smoked haslem.
denny

Phoenix, AZ

#16 Feb 16, 2008
Has anyone told Shaq he's on a new team now? I mean, he looks real good sitting on their bench with those fancy suits, but does he realize he actually has to play ball? Best trade ever getting rid of him. He'll spend more time on the bench than playing from now on.
cbird

Kingsport, TN

#17 Feb 17, 2008
denny wrote:
Has anyone told Shaq he's on a new team now? I mean, he looks real good sitting on their bench with those fancy suits, but does he realize he actually has to play ball? Best trade ever getting rid of him. He'll spend more time on the bench than playing from now on.
deny you are 1 of those miami fans who knows nothing shaq brought miami their 1st ring and will bring the suns their 1st shaq is hurt right now when he gets back alot of so called experts will eat their words as shaq retires with that 5th championship. if miami had put players around shaq he would still be in miami winning games the fact is no one on the heat can make a wide open shot,players in the nba should be able to do that if they dont sure shaqs # will go down everyone double teams him and make the other players beat them which this year they just cant do. in shaqs earlier years he would just did it by himself but at age 36 he needs help but he is far from being done as you will soon see.good luck at that next ring without shaq in the middle.

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