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ZZZ

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#42 May 16, 2007
Yes, I have something good to say about the Cavs: They're better than the Celtics. For now, at least. After they get Oden or Durant, I won't even be able to say that.

It's James or bust. Always has been, always will be.
ZZZ

United States

#43 May 16, 2007
Brittle Fingers wrote:
Newble is a phenomenal 1-on-1 defender who, in my opinion, is grossly under-utilized. I could care less about his views on Darfur though, since this thread has nothing to do with it.
A phenomenal 1-on-1 defender? If he's so phenomenal, then why, during his entire NBA career, has he never received even one single vote from one single coach for the all-defensive team. Not even one lousy honorable mention.

Since: May 07

Indianapolis, IN

#44 May 17, 2007
Brittle Fingers wrote:
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A hater, such as yourself, consistently points out only what is wrong.
... And not to make any other point but to "prove" they are right and everyone else is stupid. That's what's wrong with these sports threads - they turn supposed adults into quarreling children with a "I know you are but what am I?" mentality. I've given up on coming to the sports threads to deliver an honest opinion; I always immediately get trashed by the jockstrap-sniffing crowd. Now I just come to be entertained by people who take sports WAAAAY too seriously.

“Serenity Now!”

Since: May 07

York Township, OH

#45 May 17, 2007
ZZZ wrote:
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A phenomenal 1-on-1 defender? If he's so phenomenal, then why, during his entire NBA career, has he never received even one single vote from one single coach for the all-defensive team. Not even one lousy honorable mention.
It's cause he doesn't play enough. The reason he doesn't play enough is because he traditionally has lacked any type of offensive game. I doubt you even watch Cavs games, but if you do and Mike Brown ends up actually putting him in the game, just watch him. He can absolutely shut down any premier perimeter player.(It's just too bad he can't give you anything on the other end of the floor.)
ZZZ

United States

#46 May 17, 2007
Brittle Fingers wrote:
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It's cause he doesn't play enough. The reason he doesn't play enough is because he traditionally has lacked any type of offensive game. I doubt you even watch Cavs games, but if you do and Mike Brown ends up actually putting him in the game, just watch him. He can absolutely shut down any premier perimeter player.(It's just too bad he can't give you anything on the other end of the floor.)
But he played the first half of his career. Still, not one single vote from one single coach for anything. I'm still perplexed by what you see that professionally trained eyes don't.

“Serenity Now!”

Since: May 07

York Township, OH

#47 May 17, 2007
ZZZ wrote:
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But he played the first half of his career. Still, not one single vote from one single coach for anything. I'm still perplexed by what you see that professionally trained eyes don't.
I'll admit that I didn't see him play until he came to the Cavs. Just watch him when he's in the game.....he's a great on-the-ball defender. He's tough, physical, and does a good job of staying in front of his guy. He just doesn't do anything else well enough to merit significant playing time. Still, I think he can be useful in certain situations.

But keep this in mind also -- the writers who send in these votes aren't exactly right 100% of the time, either. They are subject to biases at times. Also, didn't Newble play in Atlanta before coming here? That place is a black hole for NBA players.
ESE

Cleveland, OH

#48 May 17, 2007
Ira Newble is an undersized over achiever who got a lot out of a limited amount of talent. Get your autograph this year if you are such a huge fan, because he won't likely be here next year.
ZZZ

United States

#49 May 17, 2007
Writers? Biases? Writers don't have any input in selecting the all-defensive teams. Coaches do the voting. Newble has never received one single vote from anybody. Not first team, not second team, not honorable mention. Ever.

“Serenity Now!”

Since: May 07

York Township, OH

#50 May 17, 2007
ZZZ wrote:
Writers? Biases? Writers don't have any input in selecting the all-defensive teams. Coaches do the voting.
I stand corrected on this one; I was confusing this with the MVP voting, which is done by the writers.

Still, all I'm saying is to watch the guy when he's out there and you'll see it. I know he hasn't gotten a vote. You've said that on your last five posts. We get the point. Look at this year's first and second teams.....they're all guys that play 30+ minutes a game. Newble is lucky to even appear in a game. Kinda hard to be considered for defensive player of the year when you don't see the floor.

But since, according to you, I don't have a "trained eye" or whatever, here is a scouting report on Newble from tsn.ca:

Assets: Newble's defensive skills are what earn him his minutes. While he is a solid -- if uninspiring -- offensive player, it is his defensive skills, hard work and rebounding ability that make him a sought-after player.
Flaws: Newble shooting -- both from the field and from three-point range -- is inconsistent and he doesn't have the quickness to penetrate or create on his own.
Career potential: Newble is a defensive specialist off the bench.(Which is pretty much exactly what I said in an earlier post.)

That's just one.....I'm sure I can find many others.

“Serenity Now!”

Since: May 07

York Township, OH

#51 May 17, 2007
Also, the change in voting from writers to coaches must have happened pretty recently.....several sites I looked at say that the writers are still responsible for the voting.
ZZZ

United States

#52 May 17, 2007
In that case, my advice to you is to find a site that has a foggy clue. It's always been the coaches doing the voting.
robert shaw

United States

#53 May 17, 2007
aloha
GO CAVS !!!!!!!

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