Timberwolves GM David Kahn expects to...

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There are 21 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 21, 2009, titled Timberwolves GM David Kahn expects to finish season with curren.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

As the Timberwolves' losses add up this season, vice president of basketball operations David Kahn shares in the disappointment with his coaching staff.

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The Hard Truth

Northome, MN

#1 Dec 22, 2009
By the end of the season you may have more players than fans. If you think this is hyperbole, look at the number of comments posted on this (or any Twolves) article, then look at the number of posts on any Vikings articles.

I'm beginning to think that Kurt Rambis was a mistake -- too convinced of his "system" and in over his head with this group of guys.

TWolves are dead men walking.
Enjoy the season

Center City, MN

#2 Dec 22, 2009
I want to wait and give Rambis a chance with proven free agents and a deep draft next summer, I'm willing to give the team 3 years to see improvement. And really do we have a choice??

Imagine this: the Wolves spend their cap money on Joe Johnson from Atlanta, he will be in town tonight take a look at him, then they get lucky in the draft and select John Wall from Kentucky with the first pick. You play Flynn at the point, Wall at shooting gaurd, Johnson at small forward, Love and Jefferson in the post. That would be an exciting starting five. Then you dangle Rubio for a legit defensive Center. You would have Gomes, Brewer, and Sessions off the Bench. I would think that team could make a run for the playoffs.

Also diddn't the Wolves beat the Kings the other night?? The article says their last three loses, which included the Kings game.
DRuss

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Dec 22, 2009
What is currently happening is exactly what everyone (Rambis, Kahn, the local east and west fish wraps) said would happen. This year we don't want to win, we want to see advancement in certain players' games. We need to lose to get a high draft pick (which we are...and it is going to be a great draft). We want to see Jefferson get back to form (which he is doing). We want Love to make the next step (which he is doing). We want to see Flynn mature as a player (which he is doing), and Sessions show potential (again...which he is doing). It would also be nice to have a couple other guys show that they can be off-the-bench role players on a good team (which Brewer, Gomes, Ellington and Hollins are all doing). Everyone else on this team right now will be gone next season. So, if you can't handle reality...go away for a year. You can jump back on the wagon then. We will keep a seat warm for you.
The Hard Truth wrote:
By the end of the season you may have more players than fans. If you think this is hyperbole, look at the number of comments posted on this (or any Twolves) article, then look at the number of posts on any Vikings articles.
I'm beginning to think that Kurt Rambis was a mistake -- too convinced of his "system" and in over his head with this group of guys.
TWolves are dead men walking.
Elvis Aaron Presley

San Francisco, CA

#4 Dec 22, 2009
go Kahn Man!
DRuss

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Dec 22, 2009
Joe Johnson is a great player, but plays the two not the three (and is too old for this team). Wall is going to be the starting point guard on whatever team he gets drafted by. If we get Wall, Flynn is gone (hopefully for another lottery pick so we can pick up Turner or Aldrich). We need to get Rudy Gay in free-agency and Turner with our first pick in the draft (assuming we don't get Wall). We then could nab Alibi with our mid-first-round pick so we have a defensive, shot-blocking center coming off the bench. Flynn/Sessions, Turner/Brewer/Ellington, Gay/Gomes/Brewer, Love/Hollins/Alabi, Jefferson/Alabi/Hollins. Now we have an even line-up with a star in Gay and potential all-stars in Flynn, Turner, Love and Jefferson.
Enjoy the season wrote:
I want to wait and give Rambis a chance with proven free agents and a deep draft next summer, I'm willing to give the team 3 years to see improvement. And really do we have a choice??
Imagine this: the Wolves spend their cap money on Joe Johnson from Atlanta, he will be in town tonight take a look at him, then they get lucky in the draft and select John Wall from Kentucky with the first pick. You play Flynn at the point, Wall at shooting gaurd, Johnson at small forward, Love and Jefferson in the post. That would be an exciting starting five. Then you dangle Rubio for a legit defensive Center. You would have Gomes, Brewer, and Sessions off the Bench. I would think that team could make a run for the playoffs.
Also diddn't the Wolves beat the Kings the other night?? The article says their last three loses, which included the Kings game.
Enjoy the season

Center City, MN

#6 Dec 22, 2009
Turner would be a great addition if Wall is not an option, I'm just not sold on Gay, he seems to disappear for stretches of games were as Joe Johnson has always put up strong scoring numbers. He with Wall would be a dynamic outside shooting presence with the speed and athletisism to spread the floor and get out and run. Jefferson and Love need outside shooters who can consistantly knock down shots. I just don't see Gay or Turner for that matter being that outside presence the team needs. Who is this Alabi, I need to do some research??
DRuss wrote:
Joe Johnson is a great player, but plays the two not the three (and is too old for this team). Wall is going to be the starting point guard on whatever team he gets drafted by. If we get Wall, Flynn is gone (hopefully for another lottery pick so we can pick up Turner or Aldrich). We need to get Rudy Gay in free-agency and Turner with our first pick in the draft (assuming we don't get Wall). We then could nab Alibi with our mid-first-round pick so we have a defensive, shot-blocking center coming off the bench. Flynn/Sessions, Turner/Brewer/Ellington, Gay/Gomes/Brewer, Love/Hollins/Alabi, Jefferson/Alabi/Hollins. Now we have an even line-up with a star in Gay and potential all-stars in Flynn, Turner, Love and Jefferson.
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Steve

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Dec 22, 2009
I realize the Wolves have a very tough road ahead, but you might want to fact-check your characterization of their play over the last three games.
"Still, the Wolves lost their past three games to Sacramento, the Los Angeles Clippers and Boston by an average of 21 points."
They won their last game to Sacramento 112-96. I think you might be confusing this with their earlier meeting at Sacramento.
j-rod

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Dec 22, 2009
If the T-Wolves don't get the first pick, Wall, in the draft, the next group of guys available are going to be bigs (Favor, Aldrich, etc.). Not only would Wall be a huge addition for the team, but free agents would definitely be more enticed to come play here then. It all hinges on that first pick next year. Then we can trade Flynn and Rubio away and maybe get some future lottery picks or at least another solid contributor.
not-john

Omaha, NE

#9 Dec 22, 2009
John Wall would be the starting two guard if he is drafted by the Wolves. I don't understand why people think he couldn't play along side Flynn or Rubio. Wall is a super athletic 6'4" and definitely more of a shoot first than pass first guy.
tww

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Dec 22, 2009
Hopefully they can share in the disappointment of all getting fired too!
Johnson and Gay

Fargo, ND

#11 Dec 22, 2009
There is almost no chance the Wolves can land either of those 2. First, why would Joe Johnson want to play in Minnesota over Atlanta, New York, Chicago, Houston, Miami or other teams with cap space? Second, Gay is a restricted free agent, meaning Memphis can match any offer. I read somewhere that due to Bird rules, Memphis can actually save $$$ by matching a contract he signs with another team since they can sign him to more than any team can. All that said, if the Wolves could land either of them it would be great, there aren't too many wing players that average over 20 pts a game.
John Wall

Fargo, ND

#12 Dec 22, 2009
I'm a point guard not a shooting guard. Dont draft me thinking I'm going to play the 2. Is Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Deron Williams playing the 2? I am a point who can score and do anything else you need, just ask everyone who has watched me play.
hhh

United States

#13 Dec 22, 2009
since a few people mentioned it......He is stating that the last 3 games the Wolves have lost have been by that number......not the last 3 games played, so he is right (Sac town loss at there arena)
Steve

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Dec 22, 2009
If that's what he meant, I'd vote for better sentence construction...for example, "Still, the Wolves past three losses to Sacramento, the Los Angeles Clippers and Boston have been by an average of 21 points."
Enjoy the season

Center City, MN

#15 Dec 22, 2009
Money talks and the Wolves will have plenty of it to spend. Half the reason I mentioned Joe Johnson is because you keep reading and hearing how the Wolves will have all of this cap space, but who are the available Free Agents?? Let's just cross the big names off this list and not even kid ourselves. Joe Johnson seems to be a realistic option. Atlanta is a horrible Basketball town and my thinking is he would at least listen. Also another alternative is sign and trade, the Wolves are going to have some asset's, most notably Senior Rubio.
Johnson and Gay wrote:
There is almost no chance the Wolves can land either of those 2. First, why would Joe Johnson want to play in Minnesota over Atlanta, New York, Chicago, Houston, Miami or other teams with cap space? Second, Gay is a restricted free agent, meaning Memphis can match any offer. I read somewhere that due to Bird rules, Memphis can actually save $$$ by matching a contract he signs with another team since they can sign him to more than any team can. All that said, if the Wolves could land either of them it would be great, there aren't too many wing players that average over 20 pts a game.
CzarInMpls

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Dec 22, 2009
How can they compete without a new stadium? How? How can they attract the best NBA talent without a state of the art facility? And why do they stop serving food after the 3rd quarter? Are they trying to lose money?
Mike-formerly St Paul

San Jose, CA

#17 Dec 23, 2009
Even if the Wolves drafted Johnson, Wall, or anyone else, they'd trade him on draft night for an inferior player(s) and/cash. They'd quickly turn a player like ALrich, who is looking pretty ordinary these days, into a head case or he'd become oft-injured like Oden. Kahn is just as successful a drafter and evaluator of talent as McHale. He just makes MORE moves. Think about this fact, they are even worse with Kahn than they were under McHale!
This is a sorry, sorry franchise that CANNOT make ANY decent player personnel decisions.
Hey Wolves, you'd be better off holding a fan lottery and selecting 199 fans who will have 3 minutes during each Wolves selection to vote on who to select. Management can make NO trades.
Then, the same panel will vote on who stays on the roster and who goes. The players can only be traded to bring in future draft choices, not even worse players than you had before.
With that system, we'd have Roy, Mayo, and several other players, and probably never traded Garnett.
With that system, you'd already have a better team.
Now THAT'S a sorry statement.
Elvis Aaron Presley

San Francisco, CA

#18 Dec 23, 2009
Mike-formerly St Paul wrote:
Even if the Wolves drafted Johnson, Wall, or anyone else, they'd trade him on draft night for an inferior player(s) and/cash. They'd quickly turn a player like ALrich, who is looking pretty ordinary these days, into a head case or he'd become oft-injured like Oden. Kahn is just as successful a drafter and evaluator of talent as McHale. He just makes MORE moves. Think about this fact, they are even worse with Kahn than they were under McHale!
This is a sorry, sorry franchise that CANNOT make ANY decent player personnel decisions.
Hey Wolves, you'd be better off holding a fan lottery and selecting 199 fans who will have 3 minutes during each Wolves selection to vote on who to select. Management can make NO trades.
Then, the same panel will vote on who stays on the roster and who goes. The players can only be traded to bring in future draft choices, not even worse players than you had before.
With that system, we'd have Roy, Mayo, and several other players, and probably never traded Garnett.
With that system, you'd already have a better team.
Now THAT'S a sorry statement.
lets give the Kahn man a year or 2 before passing judgement.
Bryan

Northumberland, PA

#19 Dec 23, 2009
Hopefully Walsh is still interested in Rubio and Walsh/Kahn can make a deal for Rubio since Rubio will not play in Minnesota. They might as well get something for his rights now while Walsh is still interested than get nothing....
odennorsson

Duluth, MN

#20 Dec 23, 2009
I'd like to see Rubio traded before he loses trade value. I wonder about a trade for Yao Ming? Both have special qualities. Both may never play in the NBA, but if they do could be foundation blocks for any team.
Rubio does not want to play in Minnesota. We need a center, not another point gaurd. The #1 pick next year will be a point gaurd who is better than Rubio. Why hold onto him other than for trade value. Girls kinda dig him though!Its just an idea.

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