Not in it, can't win it

Not in it, can't win it

There are 17 comments on the Newsday story from May 22, 2007, titled Not in it, can't win it. In it, Newsday reports that:

Before the Knicks' final home game, Isiah Thomas said he would pay attention to the NBA draft lottery.

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Eli

Ukraine

#1 May 22, 2007
A number 1 pick for Chicago just makes it worse, but a number 9 pick still makes it bad. Isiah Thomas and Eddie Curry have something NOT in common: Eddie seems to be a nice guy while Isiah seems to be a thug. But they do have something in common as well: Isiah lacks the smarts to be a good coach and Eddie lacks the tools. Yeah, with Thomas increasingly making Curry the go-to guy to justify the stupid trade, Curry will probably average 22 ppg with a fairly high field goal percentage. But he will remain one of the worst centers in the league when it comes to getting rebounds and defending the paint
jctom3

Reseda, CA

#2 May 22, 2007
The Knicks should get a quality player at #23.If the scouts did their homework they should get a good player who can score.They have enough players who can hustle and rebound,know they should get a player who can hit the outside shot consistenly.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#3 May 22, 2007
The Knicks will never compete for a championship as long as Thomas and Dolan are running the show. The best any Knick fan can hope for is a .500 record and an 8th seed in the playoffs and that's a push.
dee money

New York, NY

#4 May 22, 2007
I think you shouldnt trade Nate but just pay that the Bulls dont get Greg Oden or Kevin Durant
Ldogs from New York

Mahwah, NJ

#5 May 22, 2007
Knicks need to trade channing frye, and (nate robinson or quinten richardson) for Ron Artest. They could even go after stephen jackson. Knicks need a solid defensive, scoring, tough SF to complete the puzzle.
yougottabekidden me

AOL

#6 May 22, 2007
Ldogs from New York wrote:
Knicks need to trade channing frye, and (nate robinson or quinten richardson) for Ron Artest. They could even go after stephen jackson. Knicks need a solid defensive, scoring, tough SF to complete the puzzle.
Sounds like you're missing a couple of peices of the puzzle too.
yougottabekidden me

AOL

#7 May 22, 2007
scott k wrote:
The Knicks will never compete for a championship as long as Thomas and Dolan are running the show. The best any Knick fan can hope for is a .500 record and an 8th seed in the playoffs and that's a push.
Stick with your Joysee team and stop muddling in NY affairs
yougottabekidden me

AOL

#8 May 22, 2007
dee money wrote:
I think you shouldnt trade Nate but just pay that the Bulls dont get Greg Oden or Kevin Durant
say wat?
yougottabekidden me

AOL

#9 May 22, 2007
Eli wrote:
A number 1 pick for Chicago just makes it worse, but a number 9 pick still makes it bad. Isiah Thomas and Eddie Curry have something NOT in common: Eddie seems to be a nice guy while Isiah seems to be a thug. But they do have something in common as well: Isiah lacks the smarts to be a good coach and Eddie lacks the tools. Yeah, with Thomas increasingly making Curry the go-to guy to justify the stupid trade, Curry will probably average 22 ppg with a fairly high field goal percentage. But he will remain one of the worst centers in the league when it comes to getting rebounds and defending the paint
Ok Eli, I agwee....but is Thomas really a thug and how you know he stupid? Come on now Eli, how u know, I mean how u know....maybe he smart, really smart, u just donnow Eli, you nono.
TRACY

Manteca, CA

#10 May 22, 2007
GOOD ARTICAL. AND I THINK THIS TEAM WILL MAKE IT TO THE TOP IN THE FUTURE. HAVE ALOT OF RESPECT FOR THE PLAYERS AND THE COACH AND THE OWNER. LOOK AT ALL THE SHIT THAT HAS HAPPENED AND THEY ARE ALL STILL LOYAL TO ONE ANOTHER. THAT IS SO RARE IN LIFE. ISIAH IS STICKING BY HIS GUYS. I ADMIRE THAT. I DO NOT THINK THIS IS A BAD COACH. JUST A REAL BAD SITUATION, WE ALL REMEMBER LAST YEAR. AND I ALSO THINK THE MEDIA BLEW IT WAY UP. BROWN IS A GOOD COACH AND SO IS THOMAS. I REALLY WATCHED THIS TEAM PLAY THIS YEAR AND I SEEN SOME REAL TALENT ON THE TEAM. I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS GAME MANY YEARS. I REMEMBER THOMAS IN MOTOR CITY ONE OF THE ORIGINAL BAD BOYS. I SO WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP WITH THE THUG TALK. COME ON IT IS GETTING OLD. IN THE FUTURE I THINK WE WILL ALL SEE WHAT THOMAS HAS SEEN IN THIS GROUP OF GUYS. I AM A LAKER FAN FOR LIFE. BUT THE KNICKS HAVE EARNED MY RESPECT THIS YEAR. GOOOO LAKERS. NBA FOREVER.
yougottabekidden me

AOL

#11 May 22, 2007
jctom3 wrote:
The Knicks should get a quality player at #23.If the scouts did their homework they should get a good player who can score.They have enough players who can hustle and rebound,know they should get a player who can hit the outside shot consistenly.
Perhaps, JCT, Perhaps. They are also in sore need of a SHOTBLOCKER!!!!!!!!!!don't ya think? Well don't ya? Come on JCT, admit it.
TRACY

Manteca, CA

#12 May 22, 2007
scott k wrote:
The Knicks will never compete for a championship as long as Thomas and Dolan are running the show. The best any Knick fan can hope for is a .500 record and an 8th seed in the playoffs and that's a push.
TIME WILL TELL. NOT SHOUTING HAD A STROKE. GOOOO LAKERS
yougottabekidden me

AOL

#13 May 22, 2007
Yes I be kidden......its just basketball and it's just a game.
TRACY

Manteca, CA

#14 May 22, 2007
Eli wrote:
A number 1 pick for Chicago just makes it worse, but a number 9 pick still makes it bad. Isiah Thomas and Eddie Curry have something NOT in common: Eddie seems to be a nice guy while Isiah seems to be a thug. But they do have something in common as well: Isiah lacks the smarts to be a good coach and Eddie lacks the tools. Yeah, with Thomas increasingly making Curry the go-to guy to justify the stupid trade, Curry will probably average 22 ppg with a fairly high field goal percentage. But he will remain one of the worst centers in the league when it comes to getting rebounds and defending the paint
HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS ELI. CURRY AND CRAWFORD WERE REALLY COOKING ON THE COURT IN SOME OF THE GAMES I WATCHED. I SEEN SOME GOOD STUFF FROM CURRY. AND TO SAY THOMAS LACKS SMARTS COME ON. I SEEN SOME GOOD COACHING FROM HIM. ALSO HIS GUYS ARE VERY LOYAL TO HIM. CAN YOU SAY YOU HAVE THE SAME THING IN YOUR LIFE, LOYALTY I MEAN. A RARE GIFT. GOOOO LAKERS, NBA FOREVER
Cablecar Ken

Hillsdale, NJ

#15 May 22, 2007
Next season, we must clone Lil Nate Robinson and play Lil Nate (the original), as well as the four clones, all the time. This is our only hope. You people should focus on this and forget the trades, discussion of loyalty and other hog dung! Lil Nate cannot and will not be denied. He is the master of the opposing team's disaster. If he was on Cleveland, they would have won last night. You know it and I know it.
Mandy T

Hillsdale, NJ

#16 May 22, 2007
dee money wrote:
I think you shouldnt trade Nate but just pay that the Bulls dont get Greg Oden or Kevin Durant
Agree with you, Lil Nate is great!
Jerry

AOL

#17 May 27, 2007
Knicks should look into making a trade with either Portland or Seattle. Both have 2 2nd round picks this year. This draft is deep and these picks are close to the top of the 2nd round. They can go after what they really need. They need a guy to block shots and Sean Williams is the best in the draft at that. He has been labeled as a head case, but we need to take a serious look at him. He would be the perfect player for the Knicks in this draft. In trading their one for two 2nds the Knicks will have the option of getting someone else, possibly Herbert Hill, who is solid and has improved every year, at 6'10 he can also block shots and rebound, and has a good attitude. If the Knicks don't have both/one of these players available they can go after a small forward or shooting guard/point guard. Isiah has been great at getting talent late in the draft. Even Trevor who they traded is doing well with Orlando. If the Knicks can't get two seconds for their first, perhaps they can trade Jeffries in a package deal. Also Portland might take James since Nate McMillan coached him in Seattle and was able to use him effectively. Jeffries becomes obsolete with the emergence of Balkman. I think he is a good player but knicks need more rebounding and shotblocking help. Both Sean Williams and Herbert Hill give you these needed skills. Also Seattle and Portland pick 1 and 2 so they might want to pick up just one more player in the firts round. They will be more trade friendly. I think this an opportunity that the Knicks cannot pass up. If they do a hit and miss on Sean Williams they still have another second round pick. They may also be able to package the deal for a player. Seattle has the 7ft center Sene who can block shots in abundance, they may be willing to part with him for a first round pick now that they are picking number 2 overall. The Knicks can then throw in Jeffries and a first, taking Sene and a second. This would be the ideal situation since they would have a chance at two of the most proficient shotblockers in the lower ranks, Sean Williams and Sene. Now that would be a steal. Then perhaps the Knicks could send James and a second to Portland for their two second round pics (and pick up someone elses contract in portland). Just a lot of options, Isiah. Please don't go after O'Neal. We don't need two big men down low demanding the ball. It would be better to keep the team together that they have now to build unity and also to keep a young core group together for the next 10 years. That is what championships are built on. Trading away Frye, nate and any other combination for O'Neal would take away from team moral. It would also undercut the future which Isiah/fans have worked and hoped for for so long. Isiah, do the right thing, we are hoping in you.

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