Pacers in trouble

Nov. 19, 2004: Ron Artest fouled Ben Wallace with 45.9 seconds left in a Pacers' blowout at Detroit.

[Used 2B a Pacerfan]

I shudder to think what the rest of America thinks about Indiana when this is whats in the national news. Thank goodness for Tony Dungy and the Colts.

[Mike from greenwood]

I'm glad that we have one Indiana male pro sports team with integrity and knowledge to stay out of trouble.

[John Cleese]

And now for something totally different... a Pacer Player in trouble with the law..whoda thunk?

[Dan]

With today's news about Shawne Williams, I feel that I have finally reached my wit's end with the Indiana Pacers. I grew up watching a team that I could be proud of: Reggie, Rik, Mark Jackson, etc. I can't even watch games and cheer for this team any more. Don't get me wrong, I love Larry Bird, but his involvement with the front office of this team has only coincided with the demise of this team. Please go back to coaching, Larry!

[joe]

If I could offer this advise to Shawne Williams it is this is not the time to be messing up. I only hope that Larry doesn't pick you to make an example out of. Larry should have done that with Ron, Steve Jackson, or even Tinsley. And maybe, just maybe this story would not be happening. Not to bash on Shawne but the Pacers are still making negative news with guys that are not even starting. This city deserves more than that. But the only way that is going to change is for the fans not to come out and see this no star, no chance, bad player choice making of a team called the Pacers. The only language that seems to make sense to this team is the bottomline. If they can bring lesser talent guys in here and you keep paying to see that crap. Nothing will change. Only when they start playing in an empty Fieldhouse. And that starts getting displayed on National stage, like ESPN or TNT. Then and only then will change happen and take place.

[joe]

I wonder whats next for this team. Is somebody on the take or is somebody on the Barry Bonds Juice or is somebody fighting dogs. Because these scrubs are not trying to work on their game like most for real NBA teams do during this time of year. To O'neal I hope you have a big year so you can move out of this bad situation at the end of this year. This is going to be one long painful year.

[Michael]

He had pot; thats not a big deal. I know people who smoke pot and don't get caught. I'm not justifying what he did but come on people lighten up. The Colts have or have had players who have messed up too.

[El_Conquistador]

So sad that the NBA that I once knew and loved is dead.

[I must be crazy]

Sheesh. Again! Bird vows punishment? Watch out, I hear that it will a firm polite talking to and stern "tisk tisk". Maybe even a sitting on the bench for a few games with pay. What a joke. These "professionals" have more time and money on their hands. They have no clue that the city they play in is being hit by forclures, unemployment, and rising crime, and inflation. How great it must be to play a game for ridiculous money, smoke a fatty, and then roll to the local ta-ta club to get drunk and shoot guns. Then display attitude and show up to work late and STILL get paid.
I think Michael Vick is available as a free agent. Cmon Larry he will be the missing piece to the thug puzzle. Just have to wait five or so years when until he is out jail. I think that will be the same time as that 2007 stellar draft pick (that is in Europe honing his mad skills) will be ready to play. Oh I know, bring that Chicago big man Tank Williams. He would bring that much needed power to the 5 slot, not to mention his "arsenal" of moves.
I can hear the Lottery ball machine now! Oh, wait that pick will be traded for Al Harrington again. Sweet!

[I must be crazy]

Used 2B a Pacerfan wrote:

I shudder to think what the rest of America thinks about Indiana when this is whats in the national news. Thank goodness for Tony Dungy and the Colts.

I can tell you what the rest of America thinks: There truly is more than corn (like pot growing) in Indiana.

[steve46037]

Everyday the pacers are making it harder to be fans of the Pacers and the NBA

[Woody Harrelson]

It's not that it's a pot charge, it's that this kid (Williams) didn't learn a damned thing from all the crap he'd witnessed with his teammates last year. Also, when you put his pot in context with it being found in his thug-truck (pitch black tinted windows, spinning chrome wheels, etc) with a gun sticking out of it with two hangers on with scowls plastered on their faces = THIS is the context we're talking about. And it is this that this young man hasn't learned one single thing from the past goofy thugishness. Which is why, now, this kid must be cut.

PS: if players don't wish to embrace their new life as wealthy businessmen, fine, cut them and let them be poor thug(z) in "da hood" where they can act like goofballs with their "boyz"

[aaron]

I'm sure that the rest of the US thinks they are thug prima-donas. It isn't necessarily a reflection of Indiana or even the entire NBA.

[a Pacers fan for 40 years]

Well, Bird, let's see what your made of. If you don't release this jerk it is a shame.

[debbie - anderson]

And you wonder why Jermaine wants to leave Indy Pacers.....
He will never get a ring with all this negativity.....I love Jermaine and thinks he should go ahead and leave........DO YOUR THING

[Eddie Clark]

Need to start over with new players and lay the law down to them

[jon]

Seeing as this is an indianapolis paper, wouldnt seem more fitting for you to support your local sports organization rather than making a mockery of it?

im just sayin

[Giordano Touchdown]

The pot? Not really a big deal.
Driving wrecklessly in an area well known to police without a license in a truck with expired out of state plates with your boys, one of whom has a criminal record andis in possesion of a stolen hand gun, not exactly the best idea in the world.
I think he should be suspended for a couple of games, and talked to VERY sternly.
This organization need to build character, and ALL of the athletes either need to be on board, or gone.

[mirror]

jon wrote:

Seeing as this is an indianapolis paper, wouldnt seem more fitting for you to support your local sports organization rather than making a mockery of it?
im just sayin

Jon, I believe the Pacers are making a mockery of Indianapolis. Now, granted, I just LIVE HERE, so I have a slightly different perspective than you.

[hoseycow]

Make sure and read my previous post under "Here's franchise's chance..." to get the insider or Dumb Larry. Sure, the Pacers are in trouble! Can you say "Bird"?!