Spiceless Curry might be off Knicks' ...

Spiceless Curry might be off Knicks' menu

There are 18 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 25, 2007, titled Spiceless Curry might be off Knicks' menu. In it, Newsday reports that:

A year ago, Eddy Curry was bulling his way through NBA big men. The Knicks weren't winning, but Curry was proving himself to be a formidable offensive force.

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Jim

East Quogue, NY

#1 Dec 26, 2007
The Knicks have a knack (Knick knack?) for finding players you thought were good before they were Knicks, and who you then discover, just by looking at their stats once the Knicks acquire them, were not good. Curry is one of them.
Frank

Jersey City, NJ

#2 Dec 26, 2007
Yeah, but he does have a lot of tattoo's. Seems to be the most important part of the NBA these days.
At least he looks the part.
joe-no-millionai re

Spartanburg, SC

#4 Dec 26, 2007
It's a shame that we all accept this as business as usual. Zero effort should rewarded with zero paycheck.
Omar Minaya

Cranbury, NJ

#7 Dec 26, 2007
Eddie Curry is still a beast. He ppg declined slightly as did his mpg... hello? The two go hand in hand. You can't score when you aren't in the game. He is still an offensive beast, however the offense isn't working well sharing the ball between him and Randolph. Last year Curry was being fed the ball and told, "Go get 'em". With that, his confidence was being fed as well. That isn't the case this year and that is a mistake. The wrong player is being benched, if this is the case. Randolph should be benched. Curry is the future franchise center of the team.

If you want better results, albeit not by that much, in the short term then you bench Curry and use Randolph as you go to man and feed him from the start of games. If you want to continue to develop your franchise center then you start Curry and bench Randolph.
venom

Albany, NY

#8 Dec 26, 2007
Omar Minaya wrote:
Eddie Curry is still a beast. He ppg declined slightly as did his mpg... hello? The two go hand in hand. You can't score when you aren't in the game. He is still an offensive beast, however the offense isn't working well sharing the ball between him and Randolph. Last year Curry was being fed the ball and told, "Go get 'em". With that, his confidence was being fed as well. That isn't the case this year and that is a mistake. The wrong player is being benched, if this is the case. Randolph should be benched. Curry is the future franchise center of the team.
If you want better results, albeit not by that much, in the short term then you bench Curry and use Randolph as you go to man and feed him from the start of games. If you want to continue to develop your franchise center then you start Curry and bench Randolph.
sorry but you don't reward a player that shows little effort by benching the other guy (Zach). Ewing was considered a defense first center who developed an NBA Offfensive game, even though the jump shots were criticized since he wasn't a low post center on offense.
Curry has to learn (want) to do the other things needed when he is not getting his shots. Getting in better shape would be a start. THe increased quickness could reduce all those reach-in fouls that he gets early.
venom

Albany, NY

#9 Dec 26, 2007
joe-no-millionaire wrote:
It's a shame that we all accept this as business as usual. Zero effort should rewarded with zero paycheck.
Not in the NBA where most teams carry 15 guaranteed salaries
lee

Avon, IN

#10 Dec 26, 2007
Curry is a BUM, and Isiah needs to go..............NOW

Since: Jun 07

Oceanside, NY

#11 Dec 26, 2007
Prince wrote:
<quoted text>
All you basketball basher are all the same. Just looking for a reason to talk bad about black people, i work with a lot of you jerks. As for basketball, Just trade Curry, and Steph. We will eventually learn to play without them and become a better team.
Oh, stop your crying. It just so happens they're black; I would have made the same comments if they were all white. A mere coincidence. Get off it. Crappy tattoos are crappy tattoos. Players that don't play to their potential don't play to their potential across the board. I'm sure you are a peach to work with.
Omar Minaya

Cranbury, NJ

#12 Dec 26, 2007
venom wrote:
<quoted text>sorry but you don't reward a player that shows little effort by benching the other guy (Zach). Ewing was considered a defense first center who developed an NBA Offfensive game, even though the jump shots were criticized since he wasn't a low post center on offense.
Curry has to learn (want) to do the other things needed when he is not getting his shots. Getting in better shape would be a start. THe increased quickness could reduce all those reach-in fouls that he gets early.
I understand the reward system, however, the kid would only of been in the league a few years had he gone to college. I think fans forget to realize how young he is and how much he still has to learn and should be capable of learning. He can dominant anyone. His size, quickness and athleticism is unmatched in the NBA.

I'm sure not going to college and learning how to play team ball and defense especially has stunted his growth. It's much harder to learn in the NBA where the game moves faster. The fans would rather criticize the players for having to learn on the job and want them benched instead. I think this season is lost, even if we got into the playoffs. This team has a young nucleus that needs to get their skills refined and learn how to play defense and as a team. Isiah was right when he said that if this group is kept together and learns to play together they will compete for a championship in a few years.

In order for them to do that, they have to be on the court. I do agree that Eddie should be in better shape. I was suprised that he wasn't in better shape this year. Hopefully one day, and soon, the light will go off inside his head that as dominant as he is offensively he can become a true elite player all around if he gets in better shape. When players get fatigued their defense is the first thing to become sloppy and his defense is lacking to begin with.

Knicks really need to reshape their coaches and bring in older Knicks like Ewing (I know he is currently employed) and Oakley to instill that hard nosed, high energy, defensive pride.
Omar Minaya

Cranbury, NJ

#13 Dec 26, 2007
Bobby Clarkes Gums wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, stop your crying. It just so happens they're black; I would have made the same comments if they were all white. A mere coincidence. Get off it. Crappy tattoos are crappy tattoos. Players that don't play to their potential don't play to their potential across the board. I'm sure you are a peach to work with.
Their tattoos have nothing to do with the game itself, so it's not worth even commenting about. Most players, in any sport, don't reach their true potential anyway. What you want to see is the effort being given throughout the whole game.

Since: Jun 07

Oceanside, NY

#14 Dec 26, 2007
I see effort every 6 games for a quarter here and there. It's so disappointing. They looked ASLEEP in that lakers game. It's a shame and I can't imagine when it's going to improve. There has been so much damage done with all of the bad decisions the franchise is shot.
Prince

Port Jefferson, NY

#15 Dec 26, 2007
Bobby Clarkes Gums wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, stop your crying. It just so happens they're black; I would have made the same comments if they were all white. A mere coincidence. Get off it. Crappy tattoos are crappy tattoos. Players that don't play to their potential don't play to their potential across the board. I'm sure you are a peach to work with.
Stick with the topic, this article wasn't written about crappy tatoo's.
You are as clear as day... i see through right you.
Omar Minaya

Cranbury, NJ

#16 Dec 26, 2007
To be fair, you are exaggerating the lack of effort. If you mean as a complete unit, then maybe. Knicks need to quit making changes and let the players grow together as a team. Last year during the second half of the season, it improved. The Knicks were dealt a rash of injuries that derailed them and prevented them from possibly making the playoffs. Now whether they would of even won a round had they made it in, is another question. However, for a roster full of players who haven't made the playoffs it would of been good experience nonetheless.
Prince

Port Jefferson, NY

#17 Dec 26, 2007
Bobby Clarkes Gums wrote:
I see effort every 6 games for a quarter here and there. It's so disappointing. They looked ASLEEP in that lakers game. It's a shame and I can't imagine when it's going to improve. There has been so much damage done with all of the bad decisions the franchise is shot.
Thats an issue that falls with the coach, example you draft balkman a surprise pick that is actually good, the zeke buries him on the bench him for no reason. Curry looks asleep at every game this year, and he still starts. Play the hardest workers, and bench the salaries. It's a fact that the teams with the highest payrolls usually suck. And thats all sports.
knix

Los Angeles, CA

#18 Dec 26, 2007
Omar Minaya wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand the reward system, however, the kid would only of been in the league a few years had he gone to college. I think fans forget to realize how young he is and how much he still has to learn and should be capable of learning. He can dominant anyone. His size, quickness and athleticism is unmatched in the NBA.
I'm sure not going to college and learning how to play team ball and defense especially has stunted his growth. It's much harder to learn in the NBA where the game moves faster. The fans would rather criticize the players for having to learn on the job and want them benched instead. I think this season is lost, even if we got into the playoffs. This team has a young nucleus that needs to get their skills refined and learn how to play defense and as a team. Isiah was right when he said that if this group is kept together and learns to play together they will compete for a championship in a few years.
In order for them to do that, they have to be on the court. I do agree that Eddie should be in better shape. I was suprised that he wasn't in better shape this year. Hopefully one day, and soon, the light will go off inside his head that as dominant as he is offensively he can become a true elite player all around if he gets in better shape. When players get fatigued their defense is the first thing to become sloppy and his defense is lacking to begin with.
Knicks really need to reshape their coaches and bring in older Knicks like Ewing (I know he is currently employed) and Oakley to instill that hard nosed, high energy, defensive pride.
The NBA is not a developmental league. There are so many players who either don't attend college or only go for one or two years that don't get a chance to develop an all-around game. Then, many of them find themselves out of the league in a few years because they're getting schooled in the fundamentals and can't make the adjustments.

Curry may be one of those players that needed significant college experience. Yes, he is young, but in his seven NBA seasons, he has shown little growth, so it would be irrational to expect much future development in his game. Very often, once you enter the NBA, you are what you are. You can improve on what you already know and expand in those areas, but there are no opportunities to learn the intro courses - the foundation that every player needs - which are taught in college.
scottk

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Dec 26, 2007
Omar Minaya wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand the reward system, however, the kid would only of been in the league a few years had he gone to college. I think fans forget to realize how young he is and how much he still has to learn and should be capable of learning. He can dominant anyone. His size, quickness and athleticism is unmatched in the NBA.
I'm sure not going to college and learning how to play team ball and defense especially has stunted his growth. It's much harder to learn in the NBA where the game moves faster. The fans would rather criticize the players for having to learn on the job and want them benched instead. I think this season is lost, even if we got into the playoffs. This team has a young nucleus that needs to get their skills refined and learn how to play defense and as a team. Isiah was right when he said that if this group is kept together and learns to play together they will compete for a championship in a few years.
In order for them to do that, they have to be on the court. I do agree that Eddie should be in better shape. I was suprised that he wasn't in better shape this year. Hopefully one day, and soon, the light will go off inside his head that as dominant as he is offensively he can become a true elite player all around if he gets in better shape. When players get fatigued their defense is the first thing to become sloppy and his defense is lacking to begin with.
Knicks really need to reshape their coaches and bring in older Knicks like Ewing (I know he is currently employed) and Oakley to instill that hard nosed, high energy, defensive pride.
Your oppinion of Eddie Curry proves that you know nothing about basketball. Other than the fact that he can score, he brings nothing to the table. He will never be a championship type player. If he were on the Michael Jordan Bulls he never would have gotten off the bench. Michael would have seen to that. I'll also guarantee you that thomas would never make the trade for Curry if he had to do it all over, given that two lottery picks were thrown away. You should stick to ruining the Mets. That you've done well.
seeyaalright

Grand Prairie, TX

#20 Dec 26, 2007
Curry is a bum. He doesn't even look like he wants to black a shot or grab a rebound. Points are good but stopping people from getting points is how to win in the east. Marbury has no focus but tons of talent. The money has been spent so what do you do? First...get rid of Isiah. He is and always will be a Piston who has no respect for the Knicks. Give Mark Jackson a call. Second.....let these guys know that anything less than 20 assists a game from the team is unacceptable. Rebounding is only coming from a few guys. Help defense is a foreign concept. Personal stats mean doo-doo. The Knicks need to get their tradition back and anybody that doesn't want to get with it needs to go. I'm down here shaking my head in Dallas!
Make Nylon

New York, NY

#21 Dec 27, 2007
Prince writes 'i see through right you'...he might look for a proofreader before his next tattoo...

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