Celtics need to bolster their bench - Sentinel & Enterprise

It's the eleventh commandment. It was handed down in a special addendum by Hermes, the Greek god of athletics. Full Story
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Buoy

Danville, VA

#1 Jul 21, 2010
Ainge dropped the ball with Posey has done the same with Allen...Like 2008-09..look for Celts to drop a degree or so due to his failings...
icemn

Burbank, CA

#2 Jul 21, 2010
Celtics organization was dumb to let go of Posey and House. Plain and simple. There are players you don't let go. Posey was one of them. A grade A defender with the shooting touch of Robert Horry or Derek Fisher. Do you see LA letting go of Fisher anytime soon? That's the difference between the 2 organizations. If the Celtics dont get a Posey caliber player again. Forget another ring especially that Miami is now stacked...
icemn

Burbank, CA

#3 Jul 21, 2010
Hell yes Ainge dropped the ball on Posey and House. Just watch the entire 2008 playoffs and the Finals of course. Posey was guarding LAMAR ODOM and at times Kobe while spacing the floor and hitting some 3 freaking crucial rainbow shots. In 2006 for Miami, that fool was guarding Dirk Nowitzki. lol Are you kidding me, Posey was a winner and that was one move they haven't recovered from so far. On the last finals, no one was freaking spacing the floor, freaking Pierce had dead legs from chasing Lebron from the previous series.... LA was smart in picking up Artest, that way, KOBE can guard RONDO all night and still have fresh legs. LMAO!!! Dumb ass Ainge!!! Dont tell me the best thing you can do is to resign NATE and JERMAINE ONEAL!... god help us all!
Athena

Japan

#4 Jul 21, 2010
I didn't really get the Hermes connection to the 10 comandments, but I do agree with your assessment that the Celtics need someone to fiil Tony Allen's shoes.
I hope Marquis Daniels is still in the conversation. They need to sign him as their options are becoming more and more limited as we speak!
James Posey

AOL

#5 Jul 22, 2010
I don't think Ainge just simply let Posey go...it was just a free agency issue and lack of salary cap room that led to James Posey moving on to the Hornets. From what I remember the Celtics, due to cap limits, offered him 12 million over a number of years while New Orleans offered Posey 25 million. Boston could not go that high salary wise and so J. Posey went for the money. If the cap room is not there what is Ainge supposed to do about that?
Tommy Point

Windham, NH

#6 Jul 22, 2010
Tommy Heinshon said it after they won it. You have to keep Posey because it will take two players to take his place. One for the defense he plays and another for the outside shot, stretching the floor.
icemn

Burbank, CA

#7 Jul 22, 2010
If I'm not mistaken Posey was offered a 3 year 21 Million vs 4 year 25 mil by the Hornets. The cap space was there, it was just a matter of one year. So, just like now where Ainge is standing his ground and saying we'll let the free agent market play out. Well..wait a few more days/weeks and you'll have Kwame Brown and Chris Quinn playing in your bench!! I'm just saying, if there's no cap room, you can assess which players you can pay luxury tax for... Lakers paid the highest luxury tax last year... If I can recall, they've won 2 rings so far. Not always a guarantee, but it gives you the best chance..
zappo777

Pompano Beach, FL

#8 Jul 22, 2010
Athena wrote:
I didn't really get the Hermes connection to the 10 comandments, but I do agree with your assessment that the Celtics need someone to fiil Tony Allen's shoes.
I hope Marquis Daniels is still in the conversation. They need to sign him as their options are becoming more and more limited as we speak!
agree 100% but owner needs a better gm---ainge can not get the right bodies to play championship ball---pierce and allen are too old to play the same level----
zappo777

Pompano Beach, FL

#9 Jul 22, 2010
the thing i know ainge best for on bostons championship years was ainge throwing the ball out of bounds---in his gm mode ---"It's dropping the ball"
icemn

Burbank, CA

#10 Jul 22, 2010
He had the right bodies. He just didnt know how to keep them. Cap space is the term people will throw at you to get him off the hook!! And please dont bring back Marquis Daniel...common now....
Robert--formerly Posey

AOL

#11 Jul 22, 2010
icemn...You may be right be I never heard that Boston offered J. Posey that kind of money. Here was an article I found on the internet:

Pierce, in town for his hoop camp at Basketball City, believes the Celts should go the extra mile (i.e., money and years) to keep the valuable reserve. But if the club isnít willing to get closer to the full mid-level exception (about $5.8 million) and increase the term to four years, other clubs may be ready to step in.

The celtic initially offered him a 2 year deal that may have been lower then the MLE. I think after the Hornets offered him 4 years for 25mil the Celtics came back with a 3 year deal but I don't see nor do I remember anyone saying the amount was close to 21 mil over 3 years. If he was offered that by Boston then it's hard to believe he would have left Boston for the Hornets for 1 year @ 4 mil. I just remember hearing it was all about the money difference.
Robert

AOL

#12 Jul 22, 2010
One more article Icemn...

According to an NBA source, the Celtics were willing to give the 31-year-old their full midlevel exception over three years, starting at $5.5 million next season. Boston, however, wasn't comfortable adding a fourth year.

So it was 3 years for 16.5 million if we assume 5.5 MLE each year....compared to 4 years @ 25 mil. Danny Ainge in another article admitted the difference was the one year. Posey wanted a 4 year deal Boston wanted to give him 3. Only Ainge can answer way he didn't want to give him a 4 year deal.
Shamus Dooley

Brooksville, FL

#13 Jul 22, 2010
Rivers is the wrong man as the head coach.
The Celtics need a real hothead on the sidelines with a short fuse ready to blow his top at the officials with a barrage of heavy profanity, jumping up and down - boiling mad.
icemn

San Francisco, CA

#14 Jul 22, 2010
Robert wrote:
One more article Icemn...
According to an NBA source, the Celtics were willing to give the 31-year-old their full midlevel exception over three years, starting at $5.5 million next season. Boston, however, wasn't comfortable adding a fourth year.
So it was 3 years for 16.5 million if we assume 5.5 MLE each year....compared to 4 years @ 25 mil. Danny Ainge in another article admitted the difference was the one year. Posey wanted a 4 year deal Boston wanted to give him 3. Only Ainge can answer way he didn't want to give him a 4 year deal.
That's what I've heard as well was that one year difference... I couldn't get over that move when they let him go. As soon as they did, I'm all, there goes your chance for a repeat. Btw, he also was in the top 3 in charges taken that year...When Riley, let him go in 2006, at least he's honest enough to say, we can't afford the money Posey is worth...Posey isn't your marquee man but in a great system, team, he's a stud!! But oh well right? Tony Allen is like a smaller Posey with zero outside shot and now he's gone too.... Wow...They are trying to be cheap with Barnes so Barnes might go to the Lakers if the Cavs dont sign him...Might as well get TMAC.lol
Robert

AOL

#15 Jul 22, 2010
Icemn...I'm hearing the Lakers signed Barnes already. Check me on that to be sure but if they did now where do the Celtics go?

I'll dream here...throw Wallace, who is going to retire, to Houston for S. Battier. From what I understand with Wallace retiring Houston could immediately drop his salary off their books. Personally, I would give Houston the Celtics first round pick next year...it's going to be a late first round pick anyway so how good will it be. Battier would be perfect. He could backup R Allen at the two guard but at 6'8 he could also slide down and backup Pierce at the SF. Like I said...I know it's a dream but it would be nice.
Norm McKinnon

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Jul 23, 2010
I'd like to know who does the scouting for the Celtics? They haven't drafted anyone good since Paul Pierce. For instance, Gerald Green, J.R. Giddens....who else?....The thing is they are not looking at the best available players. They have their minds made up beforehand and whoever is deciding on their picks needs to go. I am not sure if it's the owner or Ainge. If it's Ainge, he needs to go. If it's the owner, he needs to let someone else make the decisions. Whoever it is, the last few years of the draft has produced squat. I remember they had some good chances to draft some good players and selected guys like Greg Kite.....what's up with that? Red Auerbach we miss you.
Robert

AOL

#17 Jul 23, 2010
Norm...I don't understand why Boston drafted Avery Bradley 6'2 180lbs out of Texas...when you have Rondo and now Nate as the backup PG. Granted at the time, Nate was not signed so maybe they didn't know if he was going to be coming back. However, I still think the Celtics should have used their first round pick to get a power forward. Avery Bradley is too small to backup R. Allen so when is he ever going to get any playing time.

I am interested in Boston's 2nd round pick out of Notre Dame..Luke Harangody...6'8, 250lbs...nice size for a power forward and he has played well in summer league shooting 9 of 18 from the 3 point line. No, the summer league is not NBA level basketball but he is someone we should keep an eye on.

Boston should have drafted two power forwards instead of a point guard they will more then likely never use.
icemn

San Francisco, CA

#18 Jul 23, 2010
Robert wrote:
Icemn...I'm hearing the Lakers signed Barnes already. Check me on that to be sure but if they did now where do the Celtics go?
I'll dream here...throw Wallace, who is going to retire, to Houston for S. Battier. From what I understand with Wallace retiring Houston could immediately drop his salary off their books. Personally, I would give Houston the Celtics first round pick next year...it's going to be a late first round pick anyway so how good will it be. Battier would be perfect. He could backup R Allen at the two guard but at 6'8 he could also slide down and backup Pierce at the SF. Like I said...I know it's a dream but it would be nice.
Yup, you got it. Barnes signed, initial reports for 2 years 3.6 million while the C's signed Marquis Daniels. hahahaha. omg!! The case of the rich getting richer, as if the Lakers aren't tall enough, now they've added another 6 foot 8 wingman who can shoot and defend and can spell for Artest... Wow.... Can you trade KUPCHUCK for Danny Ainge?
Battier would be a very nice fit, shooting and defensively. I can see him locking down opposing stars for the C's. But if DA can't even pursue and convince Barnes, less so in trading up for Battier.
icemn

San Francisco, CA

#19 Jul 23, 2010
Robert wrote:
Norm...I don't understand why Boston drafted Avery Bradley 6'2 180lbs out of Texas...when you have Rondo and now Nate as the backup PG. Granted at the time, Nate was not signed so maybe they didn't know if he was going to be coming back. However, I still think the Celtics should have used their first round pick to get a power forward. Avery Bradley is too small to backup R. Allen so when is he ever going to get any playing time.
I am interested in Boston's 2nd round pick out of Notre Dame..Luke Harangody...6'8, 250lbs...nice size for a power forward and he has played well in summer league shooting 9 of 18 from the 3 point line. No, the summer league is not NBA level basketball but he is someone we should keep an eye on.
Boston should have drafted two power forwards instead of a point guard they will more then likely never use.
I agree. A friend of mine said Avery is a young Rondo with a shooting touch. So he claims... But we all know Doc's history of not trusting young talent. To see is to believe.... He didnt even trust Nate to play long minutes in Game 7 while you got Phil Jackson over there playing Sasha and Farmar. lol Players love doc for his personality. His game time decisions are head scracthers at times..
Robert

AOL

#20 Jul 23, 2010
From what I hear...Avery can shoot a jump shot but shoots FTS about as well as Rondo. That's all we need...another PG who can't shoot a FT. Your PG is going to be handling the ball 70% of the time and if he's getting fouled and he can't shoot FTS that's a disaster. Everytime Rondo was fouled in the finals against the Lakers I wanted it to be on the dribble...not in the act of shooting because I didn't want him at the line. At the same time, I didn't want the Celtics to be in the penalty when Rondo was fouled. It's sad but true.

And to your point...Nate should have played more minutes...Lakers had a terrible time covering him because he could shoot and take it to the basket.

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