Tom Powers: Flip Saunders again will ...

Tom Powers: Flip Saunders again will come out on top

There are 19 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jun 3, 2008, titled Tom Powers: Flip Saunders again will come out on top. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The Detroit Pistons say Flip Saunders won't be back next season after leading the team to three straight appearances in the Eastern Conference finals.

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dr izzill

Duluth, MN

#1 Jun 4, 2008
In the mean time as he collects his 5.5 million, he could help out Tubby with recuriting for the gophers instead of watching the grass grow.
Dr K

Northome, MN

#2 Jun 4, 2008
Sorry. Here begins the stream: Fire McHale, hire Flip, fix the mess. Glenn is the king of loyalty. It's time to switch that loyalty from the irritating man who has botched everything to the man who did a hell of a job with what he was given. Flip, come home. Kevin, go home.
Jerami

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Jun 4, 2008
Why would Flip want to come back to the drama in the Timberwolves?
Glen Taylor

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jun 4, 2008
Please come back to me Flip!
Irwin Fletcher

United States

#5 Jun 4, 2008
Coaches show their true value in the fourth quarter of games. When Flip was the Wolves coach, they blew a ton of fouth quarter leads. Flip is a good guy, but should not come back as the Wolves coach.
Kevin McHale

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Jun 4, 2008
I fired Flip for a reason. I'm just not sharing it with you.

Since: May 08

Hastings, MN

#7 Jun 4, 2008
Glenn is the king of loyalty?????????? What did I miss?

Signed - Dwayne Casey
Jim

Bellbrook, OH

#8 Jun 4, 2008
I am a long time Piston fan. Flip appears to be perhaps a better person then a great coach. The Pistons failure to get over the hump is not Flips fault. Since they won the Championship in 2004 they have failed in the same way every year. In 2005 they had a 9 point 4th period lead in game seven. They only needed to maintain the lead for 6-8 minutes and they would have repeated as Champs. The Spurs went on a little roll and the Pistons could not respond. This year game 6, The Pistons had a 10 point lead in the 4th. Boston went on a run and the Pistons could not respond. Against Miami and Cleveland the collapses were somewhat similar, they could not or would not respond. In 2004 there was no quit in the team. After 2004 both Larry Brown and Flip could not get the Pistons started again once they quit. This solution to this problem is more then a change of coaches. The Piston's failures are not Flip's fault.
Jeff

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Jun 4, 2008
"When Flip was the Wolves coach, they blew a ton of fouth quarter leads."

The shrinking violet known as KG may have something to do with those leads.
E Paul Lian

Scottsdale, AZ

#10 Jun 4, 2008
Sorry, I disagree. When Flip was hired by the Pistons, I e mailed them with a tongue lashing about their mistake. Flip is a good coach, but NOT an NBA calibre championship coach. He's not tough enough. not a leader. It's time for Flip to have a career change....away from basketball. Hold your head high Flip, you've gotten all the mileage you're going to get out of your NCAA mind & body. Move in a different direction.
Deeetroit Basketbaaall

Rockwood, MI

#11 Jun 4, 2008
Flip just didn't have what it takes to get the job done here in the D. He didn't make adjustments when necessary and tried to manage the team instead of coaching it. Also, he ran off the one guy on the team that would get into Rasheed's Wallace's face and tell him to shut up, and that was Ben Wallace. Anyone in Minnesota who thinks that Flip Saunders is good enough to go back to the T' wolves should raise their expectations. Trust me, complacency for a few years can last for 50 years. Make the T'wolves raise the bar or you'll regret it.
Deeetroit Basketbaaall

Rockwood, MI

#12 Jun 4, 2008
To Dr. K and Glen Taylor, take it from a Lions fan, the philosophy that you want to adopt is " onward and upward" with an emphasis on the upward part.
Chad

Madison, WI

#13 Jun 4, 2008
Deeetroit Basketbaaall wrote:
Flip just didn't have what it takes to get the job done here in the D. He didn't make adjustments when necessary and tried to manage the team instead of coaching it. Also, he ran off the one guy on the team that would get into Rasheed's Wallace's face and tell him to shut up, and that was Ben Wallace. Anyone in Minnesota who thinks that Flip Saunders is good enough to go back to the T' wolves should raise their expectations. Trust me, complacency for a few years can last for 50 years. Make the T'wolves raise the bar or you'll regret it.
your right, 3 years of making it to the div. champ game was a huge underachieving moment in det basketball.

your team has only been to the finals five times since 1946 (and won 3 of 5)

from 1946-1986 they made it to the finals 0 times

made it to the finals in 87-88-89 and then did not make it back for another 14 years......

please dont act like you are the lakers (i think 26 final appearances since 1946) or celtics (20 times, won 16 times), your franchise is 2nd tier
Deeetroit Basketbaaall

Rockwood, MI

#14 Jun 4, 2008
You have to put things in the proper perspective. Flip Saunders inherited a team that had went to two straight NBA Finals along with three straight Conference Finals and had beaten teams with better records than them and lost to a team that had already won two titles. When Flip came in, he had good regular season records, however, he never advanced to the finals. Furthermore, everyone realizes that the Pistons had no business losing to Cleveland last year. A coaches job is to get the most he can out of his team and its players. He didn't do that. If all we wanted to do was go to the Conference Finals we could have kept Rick Carlisle.

As for your comment that we're not the Lakers, you obviously missed my entire point, which is that you have to raise your expectations and work towards those expectations. Do you think any of the T'wolves fans are satisfied that the team has never come close to going back to the Conference Finals or that the Vikings have never played up to the level of the 1998-99 season? Again, I say raise your expectations. What's wrong with that?
Chad wrote:
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your right, 3 years of making it to the div. champ game was a huge underachieving moment in det basketball.
your team has only been to the finals five times since 1946 (and won 3 of 5)
from 1946-1986 they made it to the finals 0 times
made it to the finals in 87-88-89 and then did not make it back for another 14 years......
please dont act like you are the lakers (i think 26 final appearances since 1946) or celtics (20 times, won 16 times), your franchise is 2nd tier
GWest

Rochester, MN

#15 Jun 4, 2008
Well said, Flip is a credit to the game and knows it very well. He got the most out of what he had to work with. Boston should win it all. I hope KG gets his due this year. He deserves it after all he has endured though the years. He wants to win and never had a chance with what surrounded him before. Now he compliments his teammates rather than have to carry the load. What a difference a year makes with different surroundings!
Paul

Mankato, MN

#16 Jun 4, 2008
Nice story, Tom. So very true. Joe Dumars is a managerially-challenged, right up there with Kevin Mckale. Actually I’m being too nice. Joe and Kevin are both idiots.
b-Ryan

Faribault, MN

#17 Jun 4, 2008
Ran into Flip outside of Target in E. St. Cloud. He is taking it ok.
He only 'threatened' to hit me.
I think he will be fine.
PT4KG

Onalaska, WI

#18 Jun 4, 2008
Flip's firing is a joke! Who are you going to replace him with???????? Some guy who has never been a first year coach??? Good luck! Why doesn't any responsibility fall on the players? Flip had 1 chance in MN, KG in his prime, and Spree and Sam just after their prime. Detroit is in a transition, time to move Sheed, you only have a year or 2 to make a run.
SimplyFedUp

United States

#19 Jun 5, 2008
Obviously you did not follow the press release when Joe D said, "Everyone is on notice that everyone is in play." Meaning that he knows that the team's failures are not entirely Flip's fault. The Pistons however, have failed to make any improvement in the post-season, despite obtaining a bench full of players who could contribute to winning playoff games, yet Flip made bad game time decision and those players were not fully utilized. Getting back to my point, the entire starting five are up to be traded, not collectively, but if Joe D can find hungry young player(s) with upswing, or a really talented player, he will pull the trigger for the betterment of the team. As for the coach, I agree that Curry is not the guy to lead the team at this point. Avery Johnson should be a consideration, there is also Jeff Van Gundy. Too Bad Pop extended with the Spurs....

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