Pay cut for Lee wouldn't help Knicks'...

Pay cut for Lee wouldn't help Knicks' cap much

There are 41 comments on the Newsday story from Jul 16, 2009, titled Pay cut for Lee wouldn't help Knicks' cap much. In it, Newsday reports that:

David Lee is willing to take a lower salary during the 2010-11 season to save the Knicks precious salary-cap space to make a run at high-end free agents next summer.

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doodoo93

San Francisco, CA

#1 Jul 16, 2009
Because of his agent, Lee's become an absoluate joke here in New York and a lot of people would love to him gone...
Jerry

Ocala, FL

#2 Jul 16, 2009
Yep, Lee is going to play hardball with Donnie and crew since that's what they have done with him. Meanwhile, Dorsey of Houston is averaging 15 reb, 10 pts. 3 blocks and shooting 60 percent in the summer league...Blair 13 pts. 10 rebs.....Jordan Hill, 13.5 pts. 6.5 reb. 0.5 blks. Well it might be a little harder to pry Dorsey away now Donnie, but I still think it is worth a shot. He is Rick Mahorn, Anthony Mason and Ben Wallace wrapped into one. Get'm. Forget your other free agents....focus on Dorsey and McGrady....expendable on the Knicks....Curry, Harrington, Larry Hughes, Mobleys contract and some 2nd round picks in 2010 and 2011. We could even give them a number one in 2011 since we will have Lebron, right?, and we should be 62-20 and have the last first round pick anyway, adding Dorsey gives us beef down low, in place of Curry and a defender/rebounder. Adding McGrady gives us a superstar in his prime. He won't need to carry the team, we have Gallo, Chandler, Nate, Lee, Jordan, Douglas who all can contribute. We can then try for Lebron and if not resign McGrady, we'll win 55 games next year by picking up McGrady and shedding Curry, Harrington, Hughes and Mobley or a combination of those players.
Enri

Levittown, NY

#3 Jul 16, 2009
Lmao....yeah T-mac is a superstar in his prime...maybe 8 years ago dumbass...and please dont try and make players seem good with summerleage stats, they are bums playing against bums....T-mac is one of my favorite players but bringing him in would be stupid bcus not only is he not playing the first half of the season but he would stop the development of our young players and as to the knicks getting d-wade and LeBron...all hype, there are going to be 20 other teams with the cap to get them and if u look at other teams rosters they all have that allstar level player who will help the superstar out...the knicks got nothing, unless our young players get significatly better this next year the knicks will get rejected by all the bigtime free agents and will pick up some losers that are past their prime in a desperate atempt to make it to the playoffs and put on a show for the fans while hyping up another freeagency 12 years from now that we are saving up for.
ABC

Northumberland, PA

#4 Jul 16, 2009
Check the facts...87% of Newsday readers want Lee resigned. Lee is just doing what Donnie is doing.
George

Little Neck, NY

#5 Jul 16, 2009
Then about 87% of those readers are idiots considering Lee is one of the most overrated players on the Knicks and plays 0 defense. He doesn't deserve the money he's asking for.
CBA

Bronx, NY

#6 Jul 17, 2009
I agree he is a good player but not worth the money. I find it funny that most people want nate gone when he won more games for us last year in the 4th qtr than Lee and put the team on his back a few times. I question peoples Basketball I.Q.
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#7 Jul 17, 2009
Jerry wrote:
Yep, Lee is going to play hardball with Donnie and crew since that's what they have done with him. Meanwhile, Dorsey of Houston is averaging 15 reb, 10 pts. 3 blocks and shooting 60 percent in the summer league...Blair 13 pts. 10 rebs.....Jordan Hill, 13.5 pts. 6.5 reb. 0.5 blks. Well it might be a little harder to pry Dorsey away now Donnie, but I still think it is worth a shot. He is Rick Mahorn, Anthony Mason and Ben Wallace wrapped into one. Get'm. Forget your other free agents....focus on Dorsey and McGrady....expendable on the Knicks....Curry, Harrington, Larry Hughes, Mobleys contract and some 2nd round picks in 2010 and 2011. We could even give them a number one in 2011 since we will have Lebron, right?, and we should be 62-20 and have the last first round pick anyway, adding Dorsey gives us beef down low, in place of Curry and a defender/rebounder. Adding McGrady gives us a superstar in his prime. He won't need to carry the team, we have Gallo, Chandler, Nate, Lee, Jordan, Douglas who all can contribute. We can then try for Lebron and if not resign McGrady, we'll win 55 games next year by picking up McGrady and shedding Curry, Harrington, Hughes and Mobley or a combination of those players.
Eddy "Baby Huey" Curry is THE most unwanted player in the NBA, and that's saying something. If you think Houston would approve a trade involving Eddy Curry for Tracy McGrady is drinking some strange kool-aid...
BBB13

Raleigh, NC

#8 Jul 17, 2009
Millsap's deal for 4 yrs and 32 million is much more reasonable for Lee than 10-12 mil per yr over 5 yrs. Lee put up 16 pts 11.7 rebs to Millsap's 13.5 and 8.6 but ...

Boozer took 10.4 rebs while nobody took any from Lee (no other Knicks can rebound).

Lee played in much friendlier system for padding stats.

Bottomline - Bartelstein will ruin Lee like Ariza's agent already did. Lee would barely be known if he wasn't playing in NY and Ariza will be forgotten quickly now that he's not in LA.
Lotterypick

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Jul 17, 2009
Paying 10M/yr to flawed but useful rotation players locks teams into permanent mediocrity. If someone is not capable of being a core player on a championship calibre team, they can't be paid the big money. Lee is not such a core player and never will be. If he signs elsewhere, the Knicks should consider Big Baby Davis.
dave

Detroit, MI

#10 Jul 17, 2009
Get Boozer, McG, Odom or even Tim Thomas 'cause Hill hasn't done squat in summer league games vs has-beens and wannabes, whereas that guy from Gonzaga killed us! And keep Nate, for God's sake,'cause he's the only excitement currently on the team.
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#11 Jul 17, 2009
dave wrote:
Get Boozer, McG, Odom or even Tim Thomas 'cause Hill hasn't done squat in summer league games vs has-beens and wannabes, whereas that guy from Gonzaga killed us! And keep Nate, for God's sake,'cause he's the only excitement currently on the team.
Get Boozer? Who are the Knicks going to trade? Not Lee as Millsap's offer sheet was matched by the Jazz. You think the Knicks can trade expiring contracts like Harrington and Hughes for Boozer & McGrady?...

Time to wake up from the dream...
Obreezy

Palmetto, FL

#12 Jul 17, 2009
CBA wrote:
I agree he is a good player but not worth the money. I find it funny that most people want nate gone when he won more games for us last year in the 4th qtr than Lee and put the team on his back a few times. I question peoples Basketball I.Q.
I agree with you about Nate.
Mark

New York, NY

#13 Jul 17, 2009
That 87% of people who want to keep Lee aren't paying attention. I want to keep Lee, too, but not for $10m/yr.

This is what we had with Layden and Isiah, people. You can't overpay for guys so readily. Walsh is being smart with his cap space.

I don't blame Lee for trying, but his agent needs to be honest about his value. The market has dried up. There are better players asking less than what Lee is asking. And Lee is unproven in a winning situation. It's easy to put up big numbers on a losing squad. Lee could be the 9th man on the best teams in the league.
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#14 Jul 17, 2009
CBA wrote:
I agree he is a good player but not worth the money. I find it funny that most people want nate gone when he won more games for us last year in the 4th qtr than Lee and put the team on his back a few times. I question peoples Basketball I.Q.
I have access to season tickets near the Knick bench and can't count the number of times D'Antoni and the rest of the Knick coaches were either pleading or screaming to Robinson to stop arguing with the refs...

He would come back to the bench and timeouts regularly complaining the coaches were trying to limit his minutes or the refs were singling him out. Maybe the reason is he was constantly out of position defensively when the Knicks were playing zone or wasn't checking his man when the Knicks were playing straight up...

If he was so solid the player you think he is, why is it that no other NBA team has tendered Robinson so much as a discussion to negotiate a contract?...
smarter than knicks GM

Montgomery, AL

#15 Jul 17, 2009
hmmm....lets not resign our top players from last year let them walk so we get as much cap space for next years free agents where theirs no garantee they will come play for us seeing how our roster will suck then!! good job knicks, is this going to be another 8-10 year set back?? LOL LOL LOL
dave

Detroit, MI

#16 Jul 17, 2009
[Who cares if Nate doesn't play D? No Knick did. And with your courtside access, how could you miss the roar of the crowd when Nate was lighting it up? Nate was the only one capable of bringing the Knicks back from whatever hole the starters constantly put us in.>
I have access to season tickets near the Knick bench and can't count the number of times D'Antoni and the rest of the Knick coaches were either pleading or screaming to Robinson to stop arguing with the refs...
He would come back to the bench and timeouts regularly complaining the coaches were trying to limit his minutes or the refs were singling him out. Maybe the reason is he was constantly out of position defensively when the Knicks were playing zone or wasn't checking his man when the Knicks were playing straight up...
If he was so solid the player you think he is, why is it that no other NBA team has tendered Robinson so much as a discussion to negotiate a contract?...
Lynbrook is right

Hollywood, FL

#17 Jul 17, 2009
Overpaying for mediocre talent is a sure fire way to keep us a team that can make the playoffs and nothing else. Now, making playoffs would be great but it is not the end all that we are fans of. And Walsh is not letting Lee and Nate walk. He just refuses to bid against himself. As you can see, there are no other offers out there so Walsh is in no rush. I am a bit worried about our ability to attract big players next year. W/O a #1 and no PTPers this year...
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#18 Jul 17, 2009
dave wrote:
[Who cares if Nate doesn't play D? No Knick did. And with your courtside access, how could you miss the roar of the crowd when Nate was lighting it up? Nate was the only one capable of bringing the Knicks back from whatever hole the starters constantly put us in.>
Who cares? Maybe, just maybe the Knick coaches when they wanted him to play some repsonsible team defense...

The "roar of the crowd" doesn't win basketball games. I don't deny Robinson was responsible for some comebacks and outright wins. The number of bad decisions outnumber the number of good decisions...

I'll ask the question again: why hasn't any NBA team offered the opportunity to discuss a contract with Robinson and his representative?...
dave

Detroit, MI

#19 Jul 17, 2009
no team will pay up for Nate and Lee 'cause Knicks will match anything reasonable in order to sign and trade them. So, if they'll only come to the next team in a trade, why not let Knicks sign 'em cheap so next team won't hafta pay up for 'em either. Which would an acquiring team find more valuable? A 5 year contract paying Lee $6 mill/year or a 5 year contract paying Lee $12 mill/year? As said previously, the Isaiah Days of bidding against yourself are over.
NYStateOfMind

New York, NY

#20 Jul 17, 2009
dave wrote:
no team will pay up for Nate and Lee 'cause Knicks will match anything reasonable in order to sign and trade them. So, if they'll only come to the next team in a trade, why not let Knicks sign 'em cheap so next team won't hafta pay up for 'em either. Which would an acquiring team find more valuable? A 5 year contract paying Lee $6 mill/year or a 5 year contract paying Lee $12 mill/year? As said previously, the Isiah Days of bidding against yourself are over.
I agree the Knick will match the Lee contract if it's reasonable. As for Robinson, what's reasonable? The Olympikatos Greek team has been reported to offer Robinson $5 million for 1 or 2 Greek Pro League (40 or so games) seasons. That tells me the Knicks won't go $5 million per for 4/5 seasons...

Again, if Robinson is the player you believe him to be, why hasn't a team offered better than $5 million per? My view is no NBA team thinks Robinson is worth $5 million per...

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