Muddy prospects

A season that began with hope and optimism ended Wednesday with the Indiana Pacers posting their worst record since 1988-89. Will he be back? Pacers coach Rick Carlisle, who struggled to match an up-tempo ... Full Story
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Bill in Sarasota

Fairport, NY

#1 Apr 19, 2007
Jason Kapano could be really helpful to this team!
Playa

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Apr 19, 2007
Bill in Sarasota wrote:
Jason Kapano could be really helpful to this team!
Only thing to help this team is the walking papers for Bird and his boy!
Playa jr

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Apr 19, 2007
If we draft a player that turns out to be very good, we'll just trade'em in a couple of years, Had AL twice and still cant get it right
JPD

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Apr 19, 2007
The pacers are screwed for ever. From the latest mock draft by ESPN that chances are very high that Atlanta Hawks could have both Oden and Conley on the same court and same conference. Next season is going to be a real nightmare watching the pacers tank early to get a unproven draft pick while the Atlanta fights for the number 1 seed in the east.
Chris Keys

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Apr 19, 2007
Come on Mike!
I agree with most of your critique of the Pacer's failed season, but somehow I just knew that you were go to place a good part of the blame on Jamal Tinsley! I spoke to you at the IHSAA finals right b4 you went into the locker tunnel...

Tinsley played the most games this year than he ever has in an Indiana uniform. I and STILL believe, when healthy, he is a top 5 pint guard in the leaque. Holla back!
pacemaker

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Apr 19, 2007
Chris Keys wrote:
Come on Mike!
I agree with most of your critique of the Pacer's failed season, but somehow I just knew that you were go to place a good part of the blame on Jamal Tinsley! I spoke to you at the IHSAA finals right b4 you went into the locker tunnel...
Tinsley played the most games this year than he ever has in an Indiana uniform. I and STILL believe, when healthy, he is a top 5 pint guard in the leaque. Holla back!
that is rediculous. he is a top 5 point guard 8 games a year... thats it. how many years does he have to prove that to you.
John

United States

#7 Apr 19, 2007
I watched Sacramento and Golden State get into the post season largely because of exPacers, the Pacers didn't. Those teams as well as James Jones's team play up tempo - that is where the winners are. We should have done what Detroit did. Get rid of the Carlyle and win a championship. That option is too late for the Pacers who have marginally talented one dimensional players with long contracts. And by the way, send those in the front office to work with Michael Jordan, maybe Bird could play forward for the Wizzardless team.
J Ro

Cincinnati, OH

#8 Apr 19, 2007
We need Jalen Rose
chris

Danville, IN

#9 Apr 19, 2007
maybe the problem isn't keeping players off of #7, maybe it is #7 not working hard. the man has no heart for the game. GET RID OF O'NEAL!!!!!!!!!!
JAmes

AOL

#10 Apr 19, 2007
Trade O'Neal, nothing works with him he can't take the team by himself to win a championship ..we need someone with heart and will to win!
JAmes

AOL

#11 Apr 19, 2007
Oh and also get rid of Dunleavy, Tinsley,and the COACH we have to many mediocre players
matt

United States

#12 Apr 19, 2007
Lets just face it, they suck. Bird and Walsh drafted a bunch of kids not ready for the NBA then bird left to let Isiah try and get it right. Bird comes back when maybe they are ready, brings his boy Rick in and needless to say they weren't anymore ready 3 years later. The problem is that waiting for the kids to develop it set the team back 4-5 years because they didn't draft more ready/mature players that could contribute right away. Complete over haul is what is needed from top to bottom.
Don in Indy

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Apr 19, 2007
I see a lot of truth in your assessment of the team. Carlisle played the 4 from G. S. together last nite to see if they are missing anything or any possibility they are worth keeping and can build with them! I saw Diogu blocked 5-6 times without Haywood or Blatche really jumping to do it! Murphy throws up more misalighned bricks than shots that actually have a real chance of going in?(Glasses might help). Harrison needs to p[lay. But he has never been developed due to injuries or coaches decisions to not play him. A quick, confident, good ball handling point that can dish on the break or in set plays is a must. I believed the Pacers last year, "that they were going to draft Marcus Williams", also. Big blunder! Tinsley needs to start over somewhere else for himself and to get his cancerous attitude off this team, along with Daniels. Harrison seems to need some Psychological help. He's very smart, but I see lapses in his personality depending on the aggression and attack from the opposition. Somethings not right but I say it can be fixed and he could have a transformed career in the NBA. I agree we need some beef in the middle. To aquire draft rights to Oden is a pipe dream. Lowly Magliore sat the bench in Portland. His savey and nasty attitude reminds me of jug-but Mahorn(who ruined Steve Stipanovich's career). I think the Pacers can come out of this. But they can't do stupid things like trade their no.1 for Al and then not work him into the offense or relax the coaches philosophy to negate his abilities. Get a White and release him for some unknown reason and than see him go out and score 17 points in a Spurs win for one of the few appearances of the season but with an eye for the potential he has for the future!? A 6'7" point would have been nice beings they sacrificed Marcus For Shawne! A Millsap, a May, a Millicic, could do a lot for our front line, I think!?(Maxiell). Anyway that's my two cents. What do ya think?
David

United States

#14 Apr 19, 2007
Someone needs to be held accountable for the mess the Pacers in.

The persons responsible for the big trade with the Warriors. The persons that allowed Carlise to run away talented players year after year with his terrible offense.
The persons that are the reason we have no draft picks this year.
Those persons are Larry Bird and Donnie Walsh.
Don in Indy

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Apr 19, 2007
I've read a lot of negetive things during this season but little positive ideas. I think Donnie did hurt his rep by grooming Bird and letting him have a little too much in selecting the players that have turned out bad. Remember Larry and Carlisle came from an organization that did not have to develop, train, or bend to adjust to their talent. They just went out and kicked butt due to their great talent. Aurbach was a genius, Donnie is a great one, we need to recognize and be grateful for him. Bird is developing and the harsh lessons he's (hopefully) learned may be an advantage for the future. Tomorrow is another day. I can't see all this negativity without some analysis that has been properly thought through and an understanding of humanity in and of itself. We don't know all that these guys are going through or all the stipulations and legalities that they have to deal with! I propose we get behind these guys and embrace who is left and encourage them to make the necessary moves and decisions that can restore our confidence in them again.
mark from lafayette

West Lafayette, IN

#16 Apr 19, 2007
Good observations, Mike, and some good possiblities. I don't agree with the "we need a shooter" argument because we have had at least two good ones who we have traded away - Jackson and Stojakovic. A dose of reality and an excellent point guard that will open up the shots for everyone else are necessities. The present team will become alot better with that one added team member. Teach the guys defense too. You cannot be a spectator for half the game.
Lets go Hoosiers

United States

#17 Apr 19, 2007
JAmes wrote:
Oh and also get rid of Dunleavy, Tinsley,and the COACH we have to many mediocre players
I always love how fans are like "just trade that guy....just get rid of him and him". Folks it doesnt work that way. That is the trouble with signing players to long-term deals. The Pacers management set this in motion about three years ago when they gave Tinsley that huge deal for one good year and gave Oneal a massive contract because at that time he was a perennial All Star. Since then, Oneal's knees are going and Tinsley is a walking triage/excuse/bad person. They compounded their problems by taking on Dunleavy and Murphy's huge contracts. They are stuck with what they have now. No one is going to take Tinsley at that money, despite him playing almost every game. Not without him restructuring his deal and he is not that type of person to help anyone else out. I dont see many takers on O'Neal at that money either. His salary is comparable to KG and he is about 2/3 the player.

Nope, the Pacers need to develop Diogu in the off-season to be the starting center next year and Daniels should be starting at the 2. They do have a deep team if nothing else, but they lack at take-over scorer who can put up 40 a game if need be. What happened to Granger? Who is in charge of player development with the Pacers? These guys should be better.

The bottom line can be expressed with this equation:

long term deals = great player value at a comparatively small price

or

long term deals = overpaid, underperforming players who you cant unload and restrict the ability of a team to improve.

I think we all know which one the Pacers are. They need to venture across the street to the RCA Dome and take a lesson from Colts management on how to spend money wisely.
Seriously

Reston, VA

#18 Apr 19, 2007
Who cares..........
Bob Williams

Indianapolis, IN

#19 Apr 19, 2007
I went to the game on Sunday. First one I had been to in a while. What I saw was why it had been a while. Zero leadership both on and off the floor. Zero caring about the outcome both on and off the floor.

I'd suggest something like "Flip This Team." Gut it. Spray for termites eating it up, take out a couple of walls, remodel the bathroom and kitchen, and build it into something more modern and saleable. Put a sign up and see if people will come in and see it again.
Jeremy

Peoria, IL

#20 Apr 19, 2007
chris wrote:
maybe the problem isn't keeping players off of #7, maybe it is #7 not working hard. the man has no heart for the game. GET RID OF O'NEAL!!!!!!!!!!
No, he is too important to this team you idiot.

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