Midlevel deals can be big flops

There are 5 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Midlevel deals can be big flops. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The Indiana Pacers' payroll will surpass the NBA's 2007-08 salary cap, announced Tuesday night as $55.63 million per team.

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Dungy ball

Indianapolis, IN

#22 Jul 11, 2007
s_boiler wrote:
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You are the only one outside of Larry and Donnie that feel this way. Williams, per multiple sources, is down to Miami and Milwaukee. Miami has offered the full mid level exemption. Cleveland, the Lakers, and the Pacers are way behind. Further, after sitting floor level numerous times, until Mike Dunleavy quits there will be no defense.
S
I might be the only one but I also was taking the same type of ridicule when I stood by the Colts with patience and a sincere belief they would pull it together for a strong Super Bowl run after they got pounded into the ground (literally) by Jacksonville with just a handful of games left. I got ran hard on a few message boards for my optimistic opinion. That turned out so sweet that I didn't even have to play the "I told you so" card (until now that is). So, let these guys suit up. The obviously need help on the D side of the point guard position (Tinsley kills them). With a healthy Daniels, Granger in his 3rd year, Jermain coming back as strong as he was last year and a little help these guys will be solid. Wait and see my friend. Congrats on the seats. It is nice.
Hey S face

Indianapolis, IN

#23 Jul 11, 2007
s_boiler wrote:
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You are the only one outside of Larry and Donnie that feel this way. Williams, per multiple sources, is down to Miami and Milwaukee. Miami has offered the full mid level exemption. Cleveland, the Lakers, and the Pacers are way behind. Further, after sitting floor level numerous times, until Mike Dunleavy quits there will be no defense.
S
I really like Mo Williams, but I agree that there is pretty much no way we will get him. For some reason people still think Miami is a contender and 9 times out of 10 the guy will take more money, which he will get if he stays with the Bucks.

Also, there is no reason to say such sweeping statements such as "as long as we have Dunleavy we will have no defense". Remember when the Pacers had Rik Smits, Chris Mullin and Mark Jackson in the starting line-up and were VERY good defensively? Dunleavy isn't a great athlete, but he could certainly run circles around those guys. And it wasn't like Reggie and Dale were so overwhelmingly good defensively that they carried us. Man, who coached that defense anyway, he must have been a genius of team defense. Oh yea, Dick Freaking Harter, only the Pacers current defensive assistant.

I'm not saying we will be great defensively this season, but I am saying we will be noticeably better. JO had BY FAR his best defensive year last year. The fact that he was near the top of the league in both blocks and charges taken was just ridiculous. I really wish the fans appreciated his obvious effort to improve his defense last season. This year, his defensive prowess will not be lost on an overall miserable defense. With Harter at the helm and JO still in the middle, surely this defense will take a big step forward.

Come on people, let's reserve all this negativity until the games actually matter. The Pacers don't need to make a big splash in free agency, we just needed to add a solid SG (Rush) and a solid back-up point guard that can keep it up for 82 games (no offense Darrell, I love you). And let's get behind our point guard of now and the future, J-Tins, he's actually quite fun to watch if you actually watch the games, which it is pretty obvious very few of the people who post here do. The guy just had a good season during which he stayed quite healthy and even played through injuries. Get off his back and actually be a fan Jamaal haters.
ARS

United States

#24 Jul 12, 2007
Hey S face wrote:
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I really like Mo Williams, but I agree that there is pretty much no way we will get him. For some reason people still think Miami is a contender and 9 times out of 10 the guy will take more money, which he will get if he stays with the Bucks.
Also, there is no reason to say such sweeping statements such as "as long as we have Dunleavy we will have no defense". Remember when the Pacers had Rik Smits, Chris Mullin and Mark Jackson in the starting line-up and were VERY good defensively? Dunleavy isn't a great athlete, but he could certainly run circles around those guys. And it wasn't like Reggie and Dale were so overwhelmingly good defensively that they carried us. Man, who coached that defense anyway, he must have been a genius of team defense. Oh yea, Dick Freaking Harter, only the Pacers current defensive assistant.
I'm not saying we will be great defensively this season, but I am saying we will be noticeably better. JO had BY FAR his best defensive year last year. The fact that he was near the top of the league in both blocks and charges taken was just ridiculous. I really wish the fans appreciated his obvious effort to improve his defense last season. This year, his defensive prowess will not be lost on an overall miserable defense. With Harter at the helm and JO still in the middle, surely this defense will take a big step forward.
Come on people, let's reserve all this negativity until the games actually matter. The Pacers don't need to make a big splash in free agency, we just needed to add a solid SG (Rush) and a solid back-up point guard that can keep it up for 82 games (no offense Darrell, I love you). And let's get behind our point guard of now and the future, J-Tins, he's actually quite fun to watch if you actually watch the games, which it is pretty obvious very few of the people who post here do. The guy just had a good season during which he stayed quite healthy and even played through injuries. Get off his back and actually be a fan Jamaal haters.
yes i agree to that, i hope most of you remember the way Tinsley played elbow to elbow with jason kidd a couple years back. Only thing this team needs is for the refs to hop off their backs, everytime Tinsley slaps the ball loose or Granger blocks a shot they are called for a foul. Every other team can play slap happy defense but when the pacers play the other team shoots 30 more free throws. part of that i will say is because the Pacers don't drive to the rim and MAKE em foul
Tito Jackson

Indianapolis, IN

#25 Jul 12, 2007
The pacers are hamstrung financially for at least the next 4 or 5 years because of the mismanagement of Walsh and Bird.
st cIair

Dyer, IN

#26 Jul 12, 2007
Mr Obvious wrote:
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get a life...seriously, if you have to take my name to misrepresent me online...you are pretty immature.
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