Gasol leads Grizzlies past Pacers

There are 35 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 2, 2008, titled Gasol leads Grizzlies past Pacers. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Pau Gasol scored 30 points, and the Memphis Grizzlies beat the Indiana Pacers 90-72 on Wednesday night to snap a five-game losing streak.

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AJP

Cincinnati, OH

#21 Jan 2, 2008
Butler fan wrote:
Don't be so harsh. It was only a matter of time before Memphis won its 9th game.
larry bird should take these thugs to Hinkle to watch Butler play

they might learn something about basketball
indy

Indianapolis, IN

#22 Jan 2, 2008
jamaal tinsley for jason williams, they could have cap space next year. larry bird needs to see that this team is really bad. is time to do something
Trade Dead Line is Coming

Louisville, KY

#23 Jan 2, 2008
The Pacers have to find some kind of trade to get fans back in the stands. O'Neal is opting out of his contract and will not be here anymore. Tinsley is a huge reason fans are not going to the Field House now. Murphy is the second highest paid player on the team and his stats are not much better than Fosters and he does not play defense near as well. Dunleavy can fill up the stat book offensively on occasion but is the worst defender in the starting line up. He also disappers in games. He can score 17 in the first half and score 2 in the second half.

Larry, Please make some kind of trade that will give basketball fans some reason to come back to the Field House. Even if you just found a way to dump contracts and free up cap space fans will come. They just need to know you have some clue as to what you are doing. No more trading draft picks for Slow European players that will never step foot inside an NBA areana.
Any change is better

Louisville, KY

#24 Jan 2, 2008
The Pacers have made a lot of bad trades over the past couple of seasons. However, giving the attrocity of a team we have now any more time would be foolish. The stands are empty and the team is getting worse not better. Other than Granger the current team consists of very veteran players who are what they are. The one thing that is obvious is that they are not good together. Say what you want about any given player the fact is they do not work as a whole. Sometimes you have to trade a more talented player for someone that brings the rest of the talent together.
special ed

Walton, KY

#25 Jan 2, 2008
Make it Personal wrote:
look at the box score....no player on the Pacers had more than 3 assists!

wish we could have drafted McRoberts too :(

oh by the way we should trade for J.J Reddick, Orlando doesnt use him!

Nuff said
McRoberts and JJ Redick??? There's a reason those two sit on the bewnch. Please don't give Bird any ideas! Both of those guys could not get off the bench with the Pacers either, but Bird prolly would trade for them!:(
special ed

Walton, KY

#26 Jan 2, 2008
indy wrote:
jamaal tinsley for jason williams, they could have cap space next year. larry bird needs to see that this team is really bad. is time to do something
Let's stay with Tinsley. You obviously have no idea of j williams history!
Slick

Marysville, OH

#27 Jan 2, 2008
special ed wrote:
<quoted text>McRoberts and JJ Redick??? There's a reason those two sit on the bewnch. Please don't give Bird any ideas! Both of those guys could not get off the bench with the Pacers either, but Bird prolly would trade for them!:(
Is McRoberts still McWhining about not getting Mr. Basketball? By the look on his face on the bench it sure looks like it!
Trade Trade Trade

Louisville, KY

#28 Jan 2, 2008
It is time to trade. The trade the Pacer should look to make are as follow and yes they all work under the cap and make sense for both teams.

Tinlsey and Dunleavy for Cassell and Magette. They need a point guard and have been trying to trade Magette for years. Mike gets to play for his dad. Also Cassell is in the last year of a contract. If we like his play we resign him for less because he is old. Other wise we let him go and free up $6 million a year in salary cap space.

The other trade is Troy Murphy for Jason Williams. The Heat need front court help since Alonzo's injury and they are looking to get rid of Williams. They make the same salary. The up side for the Pacers is that if he does not work out that they freed up $8 million a year in cap space.
If the Pacers make both of these trades and they decide that they do not want either point point guard then they have enough cap money to go after Baron Davis in the off season. Can you imagine a Pacers team that has Davis at the 1, Magette at the 2 and Granger at the 3, Diogu at the 4 and Foster at the 5? Sounds good and not that far fetched if the trades are made.
Hot Diggity Dog

New Albany, IN

#29 Jan 2, 2008
Pacers need to deal JO out now so the Pacers can start over sooner than later. Look at the East. The Pacers, if they make the playoffs, will barely get it. Certainly are not capable of taking over Boston and that roster, Detroit, Cleveland, Orlando, or Toronto. Hell, the Hawks and Wizards are better now too.

So what are they really playing for? Blow it up and move on to another game plan. This current plan did not work, is not working, nor will ever work.
Slick

Marysville, OH

#30 Jan 2, 2008
I miss the ABA
Make it Personal

AOL

#31 Jan 2, 2008
special ed wrote:
<quoted text>McRoberts and JJ Redick??? There's a reason those two sit on the bewnch. Please don't give Bird any ideas! Both of those guys could not get off the bench with the Pacers either, but Bird prolly would trade for them!:(
OK, cranky butt....they are on the bench due to an influx of players at the respective positions...McRoberts in his last games played has averaged 4.8ppg....3.4rpg in about 6 minutes avg. JJ Reddick is a sharp shooter who could be had for a future 2nd round pick...I NEVER said they would be starters on the Pacers, but they would be great role players who hustle and who were in a "pro-prep" college program.

still, the Pacers need to ship J.O out and get Bynum and whomever the Laker wanna throw in to make salaries work, yes, Murphy and Dunleavy are WAY overpaid and just don't give enough but the catylyst of the trade was Doigu and when we get rid of J.O. you can pencil in Doigu for 15ppg and 11rpg
IPS graduates 52 percent

Greens Fork, IN

#32 Jan 3, 2008
AJP wrote:
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we should draft AJ Graves
he wont be any worse than diener and owens, and at least he'll put people in the seats
this is Indiana and we have a gorgeous arena, no baseball or hockey, and the lowest attendance in the league!?
If you just want an Indiana player, they should draft Eric Gordon. If you just want somebody who played at Butler, get Mike Green who’s a much better pro prospect than A.J. Graves.

You really aren’t confused as to why we have the worst attendance in the league now are you? What’s it been, a whole month since someone from the Pacers was on a police report?
IPS graduates 52 percent

Greens Fork, IN

#33 Jan 3, 2008
Make it Personal wrote:
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...still, the Pacers need to ship J.O out and get Bynum and whomever the Laker wanna throw in to make salaries work,...
The Jermaine O’Neil for Andrew Bynum days are over. There’s no way they would trade Bynum for O’Neil straight up, even if salaries matched. Bynum made his leap of improvement this year and is playing better than Jermaine at this point. How’s this 12.3 ppg, 9.8 reb, shooting 62% and averaging 28 minutes a game. Compare that to Jermaine, who’s averaging 16.1 ppg, 7.7 reb, shooting 44%, and averaging 31 minutes a game. Considering the injury history of Jermaine, and the fact that Bynum is only 20...who would you want on your team?
Glenn

El Paso, TX

#34 Jan 3, 2008
As I read through the comments about a trade, I must say I agree that a trade for Jermaine O’Neal should be done; however, as I ponder whom the Pacers should trade him for I really can not think of a really good NBA team that would or could use the services of Mr. O’Neal and I really can not think of any really good big name players that most fans would want to watch. Then it dawned on me, not only do the Pacers stink, the entire NBA stinks.

I remember years ago when players like Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Kareem Abdul Jaabar, James Worthy, Scotty Pippen, Charles Barkley, Kevin McHale,“The CHIEF”, the list goes on and on, but now try to think of twenty top big marquee players, you’d be hard pressed.

Right now the NBA is on a decline, with the influx of international players and the influx of children coming into the league, it is no wonder there are no longer the dominate players in addition to those mentioned above like Dominque Wilkins, Thunder Dan Marley, Alex English, Reggie Miller.

Even the bad boys of Detroit had talent, Dennis Rodman, Isaiah Thomas, Rick Mahorn, Bill Laimbeer, and James Edwards, other than James Edwards, these guys had some kind of personality. That is what’s missing from the players today, they have no personality.

So it is not just that the Pacers look terrible and they do, but the entire NBA looks terrible and right now, there is no quick fix, but mostly, there is no personality.
Mistake

AOL

#35 Jan 3, 2008
I made the huge mistake of attending the Pistons game Saturday.

What a joke. The 3rd quarter was worse than a YMCA game and the entire Pacers effort was a D--- or F+++ at best.

They really are horrible and have a horrible attitude.

How pathetic.

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