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Redick '100%' certain he'll play for Magic next season

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J.J. Redick turns 24 today. To him, though, his jump shot isn't getting any younger.

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Informed

Orlando, FL

#21 Jun 24, 2008
LMAO wrote:
JJ should have never have believed one word of what Otis & Stan were selling.
He had his 2 year draft contract then decided that he would sign for 3 more years. JJ could be making triple or more the $ in Europe and perhaps get some PT with someone like Memphis.
My theory is this. You believed the liars and signed...so now you can sit for another year. Tough Sh**.
Maybe after this year they will let JJ go but I think they are only keeping him because the white part of the owners know he's a ticket seller and is a admired so much by so many fans.
Doesn't matter to me anymore...I actually think Evans will sign here because everyone in the league but Otis know he's just backup player.
Then Otis will draft Lee (if not a Big guy) that will leave JJ happy to sit behind Evans, Bogans, Lee and God knows who else. He will be the greatest conditioned bench sitter of all time.
So much for signing contracts on promises...it's pretty much worse than Rich Rodriquez's contract.
What promises did anyone make JJ?
Bob Loblaw

Fort Wayne, IN

#22 Jun 24, 2008
ExultedRulerK wrote:
It's racial.
The JJ fans should all drop any tickets and quit going to the Magic games.
Otis is a bigot and VanGundy is a liar.
Thats the stupidest thing Ive heard. If he was that good, the team and the whole league would be trying to push him down our throats because he is white. The league desperately needs another Larry Bird, unfortunately JJ is nowhere near that kind of player.
Bob Loblaw

Fort Wayne, IN

#23 Jun 24, 2008
LMAO wrote:
JJ should have never have believed one word of what Otis & Stan were selling.
He had his 2 year draft contract then decided that he would sign for 3 more years. JJ could be making triple or more the $ in Europe and perhaps get some PT with someone like Memphis.
My theory is this. You believed the liars and signed...so now you can sit for another year. Tough Sh**.
Maybe after this year they will let JJ go but I think they are only keeping him because the white part of the owners know he's a ticket seller and is a admired so much by so many fans.
Doesn't matter to me anymore...I actually think Evans will sign here because everyone in the league but Otis know he's just backup player.
Then Otis will draft Lee (if not a Big guy) that will leave JJ happy to sit behind Evans, Bogans, Lee and God knows who else. He will be the greatest conditioned bench sitter of all time.
So much for signing contracts on promises...it's pretty much worse than Rich Rodriquez's contract.
LMAO!!
Almax

Bayamon, Puerto Rico

#24 Jun 24, 2008
Mad Magic wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL I bet the all "Darkey" Celtics just about made you burst. You and everyone like you is a joke.
If JJ could play he would be. The Game is about money period. Actually Carlos seems to have the same affect (racist fans only backing him because of his ethnicity not his game)I wish J was a Ponit Guard Personally. I dont care for Jameer...not even a little bit.
At any rate I dont care what race or creed or color or whatever about who ever. I want wins!
So to all so called Magic fans, Be a Magic fan. I am a huge fan of D12 but if he (Basketball deities forbid) left Orlando for any reason I would still watch him. I still watch Shaq, but I am no Suns fan. Get my drift.
GO MAGIC
P.S I dont really like Otis that much either.
WHO IS THE RACIST FAN??????????
Your Childish attempt at patronizing by inferring that support for Carlos is based on National or Racial pride and not on his clearly demonstrated skills on the court, speaks for itself.
Unlike JJ, Arroyo has been used as an Ace in the hole when an important game was on the line not as a garbage time player. Same as last year under Brian Hill, Arroyo was used at the beginning of the season to accumulate a good lead in the division and then without any reason or explanation Hill and SVD cut his minute and started using Dooling. The result was that the Magic returned to their old helter skelter style of play and their winning percentage started to fall to the point that the Magic management began to worry about not meeting the fans expectations, leading to the same situation they were last year which ended with the firing of Coach Brian Hill.
Afraid for their future they saw themselves forced to return Carlos to the lineup in order to finish the season with over 50 wins, meeting the expectations.
Remember the nationally televised game against the Hornets when Arroyo was scheduled to start and all the commentators were concentrating in how Carlos would not be able to stop the flavor of the season PG Chris Paul well what happened??? After humiliating Paul for 3 quarters and opening a huge lead SVD sat Carlos and played Dooling in the 4th with the result of the Magic loosing their lead and loosing the game.
SVD tried to make changes at the beginning of the season and made comments like the one referring to players believing they were owed their position and playing time. Comments which became the detonator to the Jameer Nelson Soap Opera which began with Jameer breaking down and crying in the locker room and ended with GM Otis Smith statement of Jameer is the starting PG period. SVD with his very short resume as a Head Coach saw that the GM had the full backing of Rich Devoes and caved in to the pressure.
It became necessary to find excuses to play Carlos and Jameer and also Dooling began to conveniently get sick or injured whenever meeting the expectations became at risk or an important game was on the line.
Remember those unexplainable patternÂ’s in the rotation???????
Last year pattern was very similar the previous season under Brian Hill.
WHY?????? I GOT MY THEORY AND TIMES AND EVENT DOES NOTHING BUT RE-ENFORCE IT!!!!!!!!!!
Dennis Scott

Tampa, FL

#25 Jun 24, 2008
Has anyone ever seen JJ play? When he's on the floor he scores 15 but his man scores 25. He is consistently lost in whatever defensive schemes the Magic are running at the time.

Arroyo is terrible Almax. He dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and then he shoots a brick or turns it over. Plus he can't guard anyone - that's why they went with Dooling. I hope Arroyo is traded with JJ for a WNBA player to be named later.
GatorMoJo

Saint Paul, MN

#26 Jun 24, 2008
Dennis Scott wrote:
Has anyone ever seen JJ play? When he's on the floor he scores 15 but his man scores 25. He is consistently lost in whatever defensive schemes the Magic are running at the time.
Arroyo is terrible Almax. He dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and then he shoots a brick or turns it over. Plus he can't guard anyone - that's why they went with Dooling. I hope Arroyo is traded with JJ for a WNBA player to be named later.
rofl

“Hate is a four letter word!”

Since: Dec 07

New York, NY

#27 Jun 24, 2008
Dennis Scott wrote:
Has anyone ever seen JJ play? When he's on the floor he scores 15 but his man scores 25. He is consistently lost in whatever defensive schemes the Magic are running at the time.
Arroyo is terrible Almax. He dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and then he shoots a brick or turns it over. Plus he can't guard anyone - that's why they went with Dooling. I hope Arroyo is traded with JJ for a WNBA player to be named later.
Actually your stats are off yes when Redick gets real playing time he has scored in double digits, but the man he is defending has not out scored him. When the same person was being defended by Bogans the same was not true. Also Evans to a point.
Though good news for Redick supporters Evans looks like he is gone since the Magic won't be paying what he wants and Otis in his last interview believes that Evans will get what he is asking just not from the Magic he also stated that Dooling will get what he is asking from Miami so yes there is a another guard no longer with the Magic.

So remember folks be kind and at least say Happy Birthday you wouldn't want someone to tell you FU on your birthday would you.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY J.

Since: May 07

Leesburg, FL

#28 Jun 24, 2008
Joe wrote:
Pathetic owners allow racist (likely) management to ruin a young man's future. Announcing that he will not play JJ, Otis declares that he intends to draft a shooting guard to fill the teams biggest need. Huh! JJ smoked the other backcourt player in practice every day. But Otis is not going to give JJ a chance. I thought those decisions were made by the coaching staff. No bal*s Stan can't say a word.
The topper in this tragedy is the premature announcement that JJ will not be traded. Otis is devoting one more year to try and break JJ. Even if it hurts the team. If JJ were a lot darker OS would probably set him free, declaring "it's only right to give him a chance to succeed".
This is an outrage. Magic fan should speak out in actions and words. Empty seats speak volumes.
You really can't be this stupid!!! You mean to tell me and other fans that the Magic coaches, management, staff, and ownership are all in on this plan to end the "Hall of Fame" future of J.J. Redick! For once and for all, if the guy could play, he would be on the court. Talent will always rise to the top and be noticed. It can't be held back or covered up. You really feel that Otis Smith would rather loss and risk the future of this team as well as his job just to screw this guy over, and on top of it all, to screw him over because he's WHITE! Please tell me you really aren't that stupid!!! Then again maybe you are.
tony

Fayetteville, NC

#29 Jun 24, 2008
Philip13 wrote:
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Actually your stats are off yes when Redick gets real playing time he has scored in double digits, but the man he is defending has not out scored him. When the same person was being defended by Bogans the same was not true. Also Evans to a point.
Though good news for Redick supporters Evans looks like he is gone since the Magic won't be paying what he wants and Otis in his last interview believes that Evans will get what he is asking just not from the Magic he also stated that Dooling will get what he is asking from Miami so yes there is a another guard no longer with the Magic.
So remember folks be kind and at least say Happy Birthday you wouldn't want someone to tell you FU on your birthday would you.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY J.
Actually phillip you are wrong again...For the record jj played 10 or more minutes in 10 games last year and averaged 8.2 ppg...that number was helped alot by the 18 points he scored in the last, meaningless, game of the year vs the Wizards second team. The opposing BACK UP 2 guards averaged 13.5 points per game during those same games in a similar amount of minutes. These are the facts look it up...he was outscored by 5 points a game by back ups...face it he will never be a NBA player

“Hate is a four letter word!”

Since: Dec 07

New York, NY

#30 Jun 24, 2008
tony wrote:
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Actually phillip you are wrong again...For the record jj played 10 or more minutes in 10 games last year and averaged 8.2 ppg...that number was helped alot by the 18 points he scored in the last, meaningless, game of the year vs the Wizards second team. The opposing BACK UP 2 guards averaged 13.5 points per game during those same games in a similar amount of minutes. These are the facts look it up...he was outscored by 5 points a game by back ups...face it he will never be a NBA player
Sorry tony your stats about Redick are off, but then that isn't of any surprise since all you have posted here about Redick is how much you hate him. So getting you to post anything truthful about a person you hate is near impossible, correction you can't post anything that is near the truth. And the only thing a bust here is you with all your hate you need to go see a Doctor about all that hate it's not good for you it's going to shorten your already shortened lifespan.

Now on to something nicer and not surprised that you didn't mention this.
Happy, Happy, Birthday J.
tony

Fayetteville, NC

#31 Jun 25, 2008
Philip13 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry tony your stats about Redick are off, but then that isn't of any surprise since all you have posted here about Redick is how much you hate him. So getting you to post anything truthful about a person you hate is near impossible, correction you can't post anything that is near the truth. And the only thing a bust here is you with all your hate you need to go see a Doctor about all that hate it's not good for you it's going to shorten your already shortened lifespan.
Now on to something nicer and not surprised that you didn't mention this.
Happy, Happy, Birthday J.
Show me one post where I said I hated him or anyone else. Saying he isn't good enough to play in the nba is not the same thing as hating. And which part of my stats are off? Grownups can have differences of opinion without making it personal so if you really thing my stats are off prove it... dont' just come on here like a 5 year old yelling and screaming back up what you are saying.
jackson

Las Vegas, NV

#32 Jun 25, 2008
if jj could play any defense maybe he would see some playing time, simple fact is that is was vastly overrated comming out of college. the reason he has not been traded is because he has absolutley no value and teams are just not biting, so the Magic will continue to make it sound like they want him to stay in Orlando and make it seem like he will have a spot on the roster thus inflating is value. Redick for all you punks out there claiming that its racial got all the publicity while playing for duke becuase of his shooting abilities, and not much love for his supporting cast which made it possible for redick to be open at times to nail the 3 point shots. There is no doubt about he has one of the purest strokes comming out of college, but he played well against boys, and now with equal or better competition, he is absolutley hyped up overrated player, I was suprised when the Magic selected him, but all teams make bad judgements when it comes to talent regardless of what sport, some teams just more than others. Courtney Lee will most likely be the 22nd pick for the Magic and if so you could almost say good bye to jj
LMAO

AOL

#33 Jun 25, 2008
jackson wrote:
if jj could play any defense maybe he would see some playing time, simple fact is that is was vastly overrated comming out of college. the reason he has not been traded is because he has absolutley no value and teams are just not biting, so the Magic will continue to make it sound like they want him to stay in Orlando and make it seem like he will have a spot on the roster thus inflating is value. Redick for all you punks out there claiming that its racial got all the publicity while playing for duke becuase of his shooting abilities, and not much love for his supporting cast which made it possible for redick to be open at times to nail the 3 point shots. There is no doubt about he has one of the purest strokes comming out of college, but he played well against boys, and now with equal or better competition, he is absolutley hyped up overrated player, I was suprised when the Magic selected him, but all teams make bad judgements when it comes to talent regardless of what sport, some teams just more than others. Courtney Lee will most likely be the 22nd pick for the Magic and if so you could almost say good bye to jj
Lee wont last till #22. The Magic have little chance at Speights either. JaVale is a possibility and so is Ajinko. The Rider kid will take 5 years to be ready for the NBA. So watch what happens. Another F up by the Magic is looming. LOL

I will just hold out for a JJ trade package... but if not I dont care. He can sit till he can opt out then go make his $ somewhere else.
Dennis Scott

Tampa, FL

#34 Jun 25, 2008
Philip13 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually your stats are off yes when Redick gets real playing time he has scored in double digits, but the man he is defending has not out scored him. When the same person was being defended by Bogans the same was not true. Also Evans to a point.
Though good news for Redick supporters Evans looks like he is gone since the Magic won't be paying what he wants and Otis in his last interview believes that Evans will get what he is asking just not from the Magic he also stated that Dooling will get what he is asking from Miami so yes there is a another guard no longer with the Magic.
So remember folks be kind and at least say Happy Birthday you wouldn't want someone to tell you FU on your birthday would you.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY J.
Perhaps for the sake of hyperbole I did exaggerate the disparity between Redick and his opposition's scoring. According to 82games.com , he scored 613 points last year while giving up 629. Anyway you look at that it appears his man outscored him. When you take into account that he mainly played mop-up minutes against 2nd or 3rd tier NBA players and still couldn't stop them from scoring, how can you justify playing him against of starter caliber opposition? You can wrap that up in any kind of birthday paper you want but you won't be able to disguise the fact that it stinks.
LMAO

AOL

#35 Jun 25, 2008
Dennis Scott wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps for the sake of hyperbole I did exaggerate the disparity between Redick and his opposition's scoring. According to 82games.com , he scored 613 points last year while giving up 629. Anyway you look at that it appears his man outscored him. When you take into account that he mainly played mop-up minutes against 2nd or 3rd tier NBA players and still couldn't stop them from scoring, how can you justify playing him against of starter caliber opposition? You can wrap that up in any kind of birthday paper you want but you won't be able to disguise the fact that it stinks.
Lets get some production facts straight:
JJ
Production:
Mins 7%
JJ 14.7 - Oppon. 14.8 net -0.1

Evans
Mins 41%
Evans 15.7 - Oppon. 19.4 net - 3.6

Bogans
Mins 56%
Bogans 12.5 - Oppon. 17.7 net -5.2

Now in my math calcs. that leaves
Bogan & Evans with ALL Their Great Defense and Scoring pretty pathetic as compared to JJ's 0.1 figure.
Neither one did a darn thing for the team production but lose to their opponet by a total deficit of -8.8
compared to JJ's -0.1.

I'd choose the player that at least played even with his opponet rather than average a 4.4 loss.
JJ didnt get much PT but what he did get he fared a lot better than Stans so called defensive and scoring shooting guards.

“Hate is a four letter word!”

Since: Dec 07

New York, NY

#36 Jun 25, 2008
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets get some production facts straight:
JJ
Production:
Mins 7%
JJ 14.7 - Oppon. 14.8 net -0.1
Evans
Mins 41%
Evans 15.7 - Oppon. 19.4 net - 3.6
Bogans
Mins 56%
Bogans 12.5 - Oppon. 17.7 net -5.2
Now in my math calcs. that leaves
Bogan & Evans with ALL Their Great Defense and Scoring pretty pathetic as compared to JJ's 0.1 figure.
Neither one did a darn thing for the team production but lose to their opponet by a total deficit of -8.8
compared to JJ's -0.1.
I'd choose the player that at least played even with his opponet rather than average a 4.4 loss.
JJ didnt get much PT but what he did get he fared a lot better than Stans so called defensive and scoring shooting guards.
That's throwing the stats back into the face of another loser. TY LMAO.
Thanks for that site so I can show the rest of the people who keep on saying JJ does not compare to Evans and Bogans when in fact JJ comes out ahead.
Another loser who thought that no one else would checkout that website and see hey JJ did very well compared to his teammates. WTG

“Hate is a four letter word!”

Since: Dec 07

New York, NY

#37 Jun 25, 2008
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>
Lee wont last till #22. The Magic have little chance at Speights either. JaVale is a possibility and so is Ajinko. The Rider kid will take 5 years to be ready for the NBA. So watch what happens. Another F up by the Magic is looming. LOL
I will just hold out for a JJ trade package... but if not I dont care. He can sit till he can opt out then go make his $ somewhere else.
I have to disagree with you here Jason Thompson is NBA ready now. And he would be a great help to Howard since he is perfect in the 4 slot.
A certain guy (username the Thief)keeps on telling the folks at RealGM that he has the inside scoop and he is pushing Lee. I would love to see the Magic take anyone but Lee so I could rub it in his face.
I think that he loves to throw names around more then he knows what is actually going on with the Magic I don't dare say that their since he is a mod he is the darling since he claims inside knowledge without backing up any of his claims.
Informed

Orlando, FL

#38 Jun 26, 2008
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets get some production facts straight:
JJ
Production:
Mins 7%
JJ 14.7 - Oppon. 14.8 net -0.1
Evans
Mins 41%
Evans 15.7 - Oppon. 19.4 net - 3.6
Bogans
Mins 56%
Bogans 12.5 - Oppon. 17.7 net -5.2
Now in my math calcs. that leaves
Bogan & Evans with ALL Their Great Defense and Scoring pretty pathetic as compared to JJ's 0.1 figure.
Neither one did a darn thing for the team production but lose to their opponet by a total deficit of -8.8
compared to JJ's -0.1.
I'd choose the player that at least played even with his opponet rather than average a 4.4 loss.
JJ didnt get much PT but what he did get he fared a lot better than Stans so called defensive and scoring shooting guards.
Wow. You really don't know anything about basketball do you?
Tony

AOL

#39 Jun 26, 2008
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets get some production facts straight:
JJ
Production:
Mins 7%
JJ 14.7 - Oppon. 14.8 net -0.1
Evans
Mins 41%
Evans 15.7 - Oppon. 19.4 net - 3.6
Bogans
Mins 56%
Bogans 12.5 - Oppon. 17.7 net -5.2
Now in my math calcs. that leaves
Bogan & Evans with ALL Their Great Defense and Scoring pretty pathetic as compared to JJ's 0.1 figure.
Neither one did a darn thing for the team production but lose to their opponet by a total deficit of -8.8
compared to JJ's -0.1.
I'd choose the player that at least played even with his opponet rather than average a 4.4 loss.
JJ didnt get much PT but what he did get he fared a lot better than Stans so called defensive and scoring shooting guards.
c'mon lmao you left off the rest of the stats on 82games .com which rate redick at -3.6, bogans at -2.1 and evans at -3.8. If you are going to quote stats don't just include the ones that help your case. What the stats don't measure is the fact that reddick was playing mop up duty in games that were mostly decided against 2nd and 3rd teamers...not quite the same as playing when it counts against starters. Question for you and your boy phil...why do you think he hasn't played for two different coaches? Do you really think it is a conspiracy or do you think there is a chance that both coaches whose jobs depend on how well their teams play just dont' think he is good enough?
Tony

AOL

#40 Jun 26, 2008
here are some more stats from 82games.com that you must of forgot to include.
http://www.82games.com/0708/0708ORL1.HTM
This states that jj had, by far, the worst +/- numbers of anyone on the team except foyle.

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