Whitley: Magic GM just might not be such a dumb guy after all

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Otis Smith not only managed to respond in complete sentences. He showed some diplomatic skill.
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rodney

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Feb 24, 2008
 
its is not to say that he is a blundering idiot but it is common to see that there are holes in the line up that must be filled. Since there is no guarentee in this league i would like to mention the holes there are

1. what would we do if dwight howard were to get injured

there would be no back up help in the front court limiting our chances for defensive rebounds which would lead to second chance points for other teams to score on us and making us real weak on the defensive end

2. no true shooting guard

if you look at every good team in the leauge infact lets look at every team that has won a championship in oh lets say the last 15 years mj, kobe, manu ganobli, rip hamilton, ect.... inorder to win a championship there must be a true shooting guard one who can penetrate the hole and dish the ball

3. lack of focus

at times this team looks like it loses focus and the will to compete it seems as if there are times where they are more focused on there indivitual stats as apposed to the sake of the team its only when van gundy rips them a new you know what until they get there act together and listen to his methods

4.role players dont understand there place on team or just dont have a place

there are players eigther taking up a roster spot for the sake of no reason or they just dont know there role when u look at detroit and san antonio every player has a purpose and knows what there objectives are on the team in the magics place we have players playing out of position out of there roles or players who dont even have roles such as james augistine, carlos arroyo, jj redick, pat garrity, all serving no purpose for the team one it is not fair for them to just be on the bench for the sake of being a player and not being used 2 if you have an option to clear those players from your roster and fill it with a void in your roster that is needed like a pf then it should of been done. not to say that we could of got a star calibar player but even a decent role player to complement howard even when battie comes back would of been adiquate.

there is much more to be said but i will leave it as is for now
dee

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#2
Feb 24, 2008
 
well i think the good move was the cook and evans deal granted i loved ariza, only thing i see he did wrong was the nelson deal look at what his stats are this coming summer he needs to be gone.
Luis

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#3
Feb 24, 2008
 
How is posible the Orlando Sentinel put this 'Wash Otis hands' now? That was a so-so trade months ago!

A god, a bad, a wathever! with all the respect to the players involved, there is no way you can compare to the Gasol, Kidd, Gooden, Wallace, Oneal, Marrion trades in the past few days! To post this report is a slap in the face to any real fan. It's just a way to brign something 3 months back to cover the inability of Otis to pull the trigger on expiring contracts!

Sorry if this sounds so hard, but this is once again Orlando Sentinel Staff kissing some butts around the magics organization.
Tre

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#4
Feb 25, 2008
 
Three PG's, a SG that never see's the floor (JJ), a SF playing PF (lewis) and you dont bring in help? Now if you just want a warm body, what about Gortat, who seemed to exude hustle and energy in summer camps, who could possibly be an Anderson Varejao player, but apparently isnt liked by Van Gundy. Otis overpaying for Lewis and Nelson will hamstring this team for a long time.
Tre

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#5
Feb 25, 2008
 
I only bring up the 3 PG's, because Otis kept saying he wouldnt trade arroyo in case Jameer got hurt. Know your own darn team, you have a PG that hardly ever see's the floor, exactly how many PG's do you want to keep on a roster?
Harv

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#6
Feb 25, 2008
 
Don't roll over so fast David. Let's see if the magic get past the 1st round. If not we can continue with off with his little head. After all thats fun, even if it proves we are wrong in the long haul, which I doubt. He still paid way too much for Lewis and that little 1/4 guard who loves to turn over the ball bunches. All this and Brighthouse is bringing me the same number of games as last year. Just ask them. The wouldn't lie would the?
Harv

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Feb 25, 2008
 
oops THEY
TATO

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#8
Feb 25, 2008
 
OTIS , DO YOU SAW HOW LAKERS , CAVS , DALLAS , PLAY ??? YOU STILL A IDIOT.
TATO

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Feb 25, 2008
 
NOW THE TEAM PLAYING AGAINTS BAD TEAM, LET SEE IN PLAY OFF.
Observer

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#10
Feb 25, 2008
 
What spin!! The Sentinel should now get good interviews with GM Smith. You seem to forget his draft picks when the Magic didn't have the overall number pick. Do you remember Vasquez and Redick? At best GM Smith is average. He and VG preach defense but built the team with shooters only, except for Howard.

“Are You Kidding Me? SHAQ left?”

Since: Feb 08

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Feb 25, 2008
 
rodney wrote:
its is not to say that he is a blundering idiot but it is common to see that there are holes in the line up that must be filled. Since there is no guarentee in this league i would like to mention the holes there are
1. what would we do if dwight howard were to get injured
there would be no back up help in the front court limiting our chances for defensive rebounds which would lead to second chance points for other teams to score on us and making us real weak on the defensive end
2. no true shooting guard
if you look at every good team in the leauge infact lets look at every team that has won a championship in oh lets say the last 15 years mj, kobe, manu ganobli, rip hamilton, ect.... inorder to win a championship there must be a true shooting guard one who can penetrate the hole and dish the ball
3. lack of focus
at times this team looks like it loses focus and the will to compete it seems as if there are times where they are more focused on there indivitual stats as apposed to the sake of the team its only when van gundy rips them a new you know what until they get there act together and listen to his methods
4.role players dont understand there place on team or just dont have a place
there are players eigther taking up a roster spot for the sake of no reason or they just dont know there role when u look at detroit and san antonio every player has a purpose and knows what there objectives are on the team in the magics place we have players playing out of position out of there roles or players who dont even have roles such as james augistine, carlos arroyo, jj redick, pat garrity, all serving no purpose for the team one it is not fair for them to just be on the bench for the sake of being a player and not being used 2 if you have an option to clear those players from your roster and fill it with a void in your roster that is needed like a pf then it should of been done. not to say that we could of got a star calibar player but even a decent role player to complement howard even when battie comes back would of been adiquate.
there is much more to be said but i will leave it as is for now
That a lot of negativity for a team that is 36-22 Rodney and a huge change from last year. This team is young and improving...All those teams you are comparing to...actually I have no clue who you are comparing to..but the point is teams are not made overnight...its takes time and we are still young.

Lets see here...Let me try to answer some of your questions..

1. what would we do if dwight howard were to get injured??

I dont know...what would happen if Lebron/Kobe/Nash would get injured?
Are you kidding me?

2. no true shooting guard
if you look at every good team in the leauge infact lets look at every team that has won a championship in oh lets say the last 15 years mj, kobe, manu ganobli, rip hamilton, ect....

Houston didnt have any? Only Hakeem did the trick...I doubt their GM asked if WHAT would happen if anything happened to Hakeem? It is what it is...

You dont build your teams with injury in mind. You have your bench and make due. All the teams have the stars players at their respective positions...if they go down...so does the team with it.
Wade/Shaq went down so did the team last year. It happens...yes we have holes to fill...patience counts...
It takes 2 teams to make deals. Sometimes its just not worth it.

36-22 record at this time of the year and we are not even in contention. Need I say more?
Tre

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Feb 25, 2008
 
O-Magic wrote
"Houston didnt have any? Only Hakeem did the trick...I doubt their GM asked if WHAT would happen if anything happened to Hakeem? It is what it is..."

Umm, what was Clyde Drexler? And while Mad MAx was a little crazy at the end of his time in the NBA, he was still a dangerous player to guard and could provide good defense.
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Feb 25, 2008
 
A lot of people forget that Clyde wasn't around for the first Championship...

And Max dropped off considerably, he had 13PgG and shot below 40%(below 30% from behind the ark) in that year.

So, while Jordan had Pippen and Shaq had Kobe, Hakeem did it all by himself in 1993-1994.

“Are You Kidding Me? SHAQ left?”

Since: Feb 08

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Feb 25, 2008
 
Tre wrote:
O-Magic wrote
"Houston didnt have any? Only Hakeem did the trick...I doubt their GM asked if WHAT would happen if anything happened to Hakeem? It is what it is..."
Umm, what was Clyde Drexler? And while Mad MAx was a little crazy at the end of his time in the NBA, he was still a dangerous player to guard and could provide good defense.
Drexler and Mad Max....??
Ohh...so Lewis and Hedo are not any dangerous or they just dont count huh??

WOW...what would satisfy you?
Steve

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#15
Feb 25, 2008
 
I really like Mo Evans as our SG. Yeah he's not like the other ballhogging SG's in the league, but he plays hard and has great athleticism. He is always around the rim, takes it to the hoop and can hit the open 3 also. Plus he's young so he can grow with the team.

We need to make sure we resign him, Dooling, and Foyle and then get another PF as a backup or starter.

When the current starting five are focused, they are unstoppable on offense and are good enough on defense to make some good runs.
Jack

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#16
Feb 25, 2008
 
I thought David Whitley was different from the other Orlando Sentinel sport writers. I was wrong. He has the same small town mediocre mentallity than the others. Just because Otis made one good trade doesn't means he is the GM of the year. How many stupids deals Otis has been made during the past two years. Let's remember a couple... Signed a mediocre backup PG for $35 millions. Signed Lewis for $118 millions. This guy is good but he is not a star. Picked Fran Vazquez, where is he by the way? Picked JJ and he is burried in the bench. Let Grant Hill go to the Suns and he is playing like a star. Bottom line is, the Magic couldn't make any decent trade because they don't have the money and the guts to go for the best players available in the league. He needs to change his mind set and think like a real pro GM if he wants to be a serious contender.
rodney

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Feb 25, 2008
 
O-MAGIC wrote:
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That a lot of negativity for a team that is 36-22 Rodney and a huge change from last year. This team is young and improving...All those teams you are comparing to...actually I have no clue who you are comparing to..but the point is teams are not made overnight...its takes time and we are still young.
Lets see here...Let me try to answer some of your questions..
1. what would we do if dwight howard were to get injured??
I dont know...what would happen if Lebron/Kobe/Nash would get injured?
Are you kidding me?
2. no true shooting guard
if you look at every good team in the leauge infact lets look at every team that has won a championship in oh lets say the last 15 years mj, kobe, manu ganobli, rip hamilton, ect....
Houston didnt have any? Only Hakeem did the trick...I doubt their GM asked if WHAT would happen if anything happened to Hakeem? It is what it is...
You dont build your teams with injury in mind. You have your bench and make due. All the teams have the stars players at their respective positions...if they go down...so does the team with it.
Wade/Shaq went down so did the team last year. It happens...yes we have holes to fill...patience counts...
It takes 2 teams to make deals. Sometimes its just not worth it.
36-22 record at this time of the year and we are not even in contention. Need I say more?
yes lets say more if magic go against detroit in the playoffs they are going to lose lets be honest

2 the time of hakeem is a lot different than todays players and granted the record is a good record but not a championship record and what is the purpose of playing in the nba to win a championship now you and your character might be content with mediorocy but if i see room for improvement you go for it, there is no way you can say to me or to anyone that his team has wut it takes to win a championship our guards get smoked by other guards and other than howard we have no low post presence

when things are done right you dont mention them you continue to do them when things are wrong or there is a hole you mention them so you can fix them!

so yeah there is a lot more to mention
rodney

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Feb 25, 2008
 
O-MAGIC wrote:
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That a lot of negativity for a team that is 36-22 Rodney and a huge change from last year. This team is young and improving...All those teams you are comparing to...actually I have no clue who you are comparing to..but the point is teams are not made overnight...its takes time and we are still young.
Lets see here...Let me try to answer some of your questions..
1. what would we do if dwight howard were to get injured??
I dont know...what would happen if Lebron/Kobe/Nash would get injured?
Are you kidding me?
2. no true shooting guard
if you look at every good team in the leauge infact lets look at every team that has won a championship in oh lets say the last 15 years mj, kobe, manu ganobli, rip hamilton, ect....
Houston didnt have any? Only Hakeem did the trick...I doubt their GM asked if WHAT would happen if anything happened to Hakeem? It is what it is...
You dont build your teams with injury in mind. You have your bench and make due. All the teams have the stars players at their respective positions...if they go down...so does the team with it.
Wade/Shaq went down so did the team last year. It happens...yes we have holes to fill...patience counts...
It takes 2 teams to make deals. Sometimes its just not worth it.
36-22 record at this time of the year and we are not even in contention. Need I say more?
plus i find it funny who your whole outlook at what i wrote is around an injury to dwight lol there was more than 1 point that i made but lets continue to address your statments in comparison to mine

i stated that the magic need another pf or big man to help bang around in the middle to aid him or to temporarily replace him if he were to get injured other wise we have no back up for him

2 you never mentioned anything regarding the lack of focus the team has

3 you never mentions that due to the holes in the lineup we have players playing out of position all these things prove that there are flaws in the lineup lewis is not a 4 we have no 2 guard dwight is more a pf than a center the fact we have players not even being used and that they should eighter be shipped or released these are all things you never mentioned and why because there is nothing you can say in regards to it

i never said the magic were a bad team i said that there are holes that need to be filled. it is not negativity. if you got a b in school and you have the potential to get an a would u be happy with ur b or strive for that a! my point exactly this team has the ability to be a contender but they need to focus listen to van gundy and fill the holes in the line up that are missing bring in a true shooting guard and a reliable defensively minded pf or center to aid howard and get each player to understand there role on the team and what there supposed to bring to the team weather they are a bench player or starter

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#19
Feb 25, 2008
 
So for those of you who hate Otis Smith I give you this information. The owners are talking about giving Otis Smith a two year extension on his contract. They apparently like what he is doing, and they are people he has to satisfy not y'all out here in forum land.
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#20
Feb 25, 2008
 
The Magic starting guards should be Carlos Arroyo as point and Keyon Dooling as the shooting guard. If Van Gundy has toyed with different guard rosters all season long, why not give this one a try. Whats there to lose besides another starting roster change.

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