Exceeding preseason prospects

There are 20 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Dec 26, 2007, titled Exceeding preseason prospects. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

They were supposed to be teams on the outside looking in at the rest of the Eastern Conference.

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Chip

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Dec 26, 2007
Who cares?????
Jim

Mount Vernon, OH

#2 Dec 26, 2007
Jermaine, was that pride showing when the team let the worst team in the league score 131 points?
Brian

Arcadia, IN

#3 Dec 26, 2007
Chip wrote:
Who cares?????
Who commented?????

Is somebody forcing you to read stories about the Pacers?
Jeff from Delphi

Barnesville, OH

#4 Dec 26, 2007
Tonights game, 2 against Detroit and one with Charlotte will finish the year. Splitting these 4 would be the minimum acceptable. 17-15 going into 08 would be beyond my expectations. I thought it would take longer for the team and O'Brien to come together.
Block

AOL

#5 Dec 26, 2007
Chip wrote:
Who cares?????
Flaming PHOOL! Who cares what twaddle erupts from three-year old mind. You are an embarrassment.
Jamaal Tinsley

United States

#6 Dec 26, 2007
LETS GO CLUBBING!
xfactor

United States

#7 Dec 26, 2007
The Pacers have a better road record than one at home. This matchup with the Hawks should prove entertaining. Too bad no tv, satelite or cable company is carrying this game! Go Pacers!!!
PacerFanTurnedLu kewarm

East Lansing, MI

#8 Dec 26, 2007
The Pacers have a long way to go before they can turn the heads of some of the loyal Pacer fans of the past who have been turned off by the teams on court/ off court antics.
Larry is a simpleton

Avon, IN

#9 Dec 26, 2007
They are two games above .500. Isn't it a tad bit early to start patting them on the back for mediocrity? It shows just how far this team has fallen when this is now considered an achievment.
Considering how pathetic this organization is, how about they have some sustained success at a true level before we start lauding their accomplishments.
Dave

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Dec 26, 2007
As long as Tinsley is running the team we will not be a contender. He is the one of the worst PG in the NBA. I don't want to hear the crap about his scoring and assists this year. They mean nothing if you lose. Tinsley stays, the Pacers remain a mediocre Eastern Conf. team. Which isn't saying much.
bent20

Davenport, IA

#11 Dec 26, 2007
Nice to see the Pacers in the playoff mix, but we're not even half way through the season. Two losses here and there and they're back out of the top eight. The top three are the only solid teams in the east this year. Kind of annoying to see Boston doing so well.
Focused on New Leadership

Atlanta, IN

#12 Dec 26, 2007
Quit pointing mikes and recorders at O'Neal and Tinsley, please. They are frauds as "team leaders." O'Neal has already made it perfectly clear he wants to be elsewhere and tried to force the Pacers' hand (and by doing so, lowered the Pacers' potential trade-in value). Dunleavy is the new leader: aim your eyes, ears and equipment at him. Better yet, just ignore Tinsley and O'Neal and sprinkle your articles with quotes from the rest in the spirit of team play.
Glenn

El Paso, TX

#13 Dec 26, 2007
I agree that Jermaine O'Neal is NOT the leader of this team, but Jamaal Tinsley is a proven point guard that has a tremendous upside; however, the leaders of the team are clearly Danny Grainger and Mike Dunleavy respectively. The up tempo style that O'Brien implemented has proven to be the kind of style these two players thrive in and Jermaine struggle with. The facilitator for this up tempo style is Tinsley, currently there are no free agent up-tempo style point guards available for a trade with the Pacers, Jason Kidd and Steve Nash are not available, no one wants Starbury so Jamaal is a good fit.

It is because of Danny Grainger, Mike Dunleavy and Jamaal Tinsley the Pacers are among the top teams in the Eastern Conference and when these three players play well, the Pacers normally win. When they try to force the ball to Jermaine on a regular basis, they loose. He may have good nights where he is scoring at will against an opponent, but he still should not be the primary option, we should look to him only when it is to the advantage for the Pacers and not for him and his incentives.
TexasPacer

United States

#14 Dec 26, 2007
It is surprising to see the hawks in the playoff hunt
Glenn

El Paso, TX

#15 Dec 26, 2007
TexasPacer wrote:
It is surprising to see the hawks in the playoff hunt
They are not in the hunt just yet, they simply have a decent record to this point in the season.. there is still a lot of basketball to be played.. The Hawks can go on a 20-game losing streak and fall out of the playoff hunt as well as the Pacers can..
Batter Down

Evansville, IN

#16 Dec 26, 2007
This game will be entertaining, exciting, and will have its share of jaw-dropping drives by Dunleavy, blocks by wiz JO, and passes by Tinsley. They are fun to watch.

The wins are more than we expected, so I think they have earned a little respect as a result.
Phshman

Gas City, IN

#17 Dec 26, 2007
PacerFanTurnedLukewarm wrote:
The Pacers have a long way to go before they can turn the heads of some of the loyal Pacer fans of the past who have been turned off by the teams on court/ off court antics.
This is where you are wrong. The LOYAL Pacer fans are the ones that have supported through thick and thin. The ones that only support them when they are winning are the band wagon jumpers. Don't be down on the whole team based on the actions of a few.
Phshman

Gas City, IN

#18 Dec 26, 2007
Larry is a simpleton wrote:
They are two games above .500. Isn't it a tad bit early to start patting them on the back for mediocrity? It shows just how far this team has fallen when this is now considered an achievment.
Considering how pathetic this organization is, how about they have some sustained success at a true level before we start lauding their accomplishments.
Why dont we give them some credit that they are by far exceeding the expectations of us all. Yes they do have a long way to go to get back to the level of play we want from them but at least they are on the right track.
Hoosier Fan

Lafayette, IN

#19 Dec 26, 2007
Glenn wrote:
I agree that Jermaine O'Neal is NOT the leader of this team, but Jamaal Tinsley is a proven point guard that has a tremendous upside; however, the leaders of the team are clearly Danny Grainger and Mike Dunleavy respectively. The up tempo style that O'Brien implemented has proven to be the kind of style these two players thrive in and Jermaine struggle with. The facilitator for this up tempo style is Tinsley, currently there are no free agent up-tempo style point guards available for a trade with the Pacers, Jason Kidd and Steve Nash are not available, no one wants Starbury so Jamaal is a good fit.
It is because of Danny Grainger, Mike Dunleavy and Jamaal Tinsley the Pacers are among the top teams in the Eastern Conference and when these three players play well, the Pacers normally win. When they try to force the ball to Jermaine on a regular basis, they loose. He may have good nights where he is scoring at will against an opponent, but he still should not be the primary option, we should look to him only when it is to the advantage for the Pacers and not for him and his incentives.
Glenn, I agree with much of what you are saying but Tinsley is a "proven point guard." I am not sure what team you are watching. Is there another team with a Tinsley as a point guard.

"Proven point guards" are consistent night in and night out which Tinsley has a looooong way to go to achieve. He needs to be "more smarter."
ERK

Kokomo, IN

#20 Dec 26, 2007
Jamaal Tinsley wrote:
LETS GO CLUBBING!
ya i'm sure he'd live in markleville

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