Why would anyone want to coach direct...

Why would anyone want to coach directionless team?

There are 76 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from May 23, 2007, titled Why would anyone want to coach directionless team?. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

So, can you blame Stan Van Gundy? Or Mark Jackson, who took himself out of consideration for the Indiana Pacers' coaching job early in the process? Let's make believe we're coaching aspirants and draw up a list ...

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allen Penalosa of CA

San Francisco, CA

#1 May 24, 2007
I am an avid fan of Indiana Pacers, since my brother's family live in Indianapolis. I even get an NBA League pass every season just to see the basketball in the east. I agree with you Bob, Pacers team is good, and Larry Bird seems to be a problem, He never satisfied with his players, he acquied Al with all those hardships, then trade him? A team which keeps on rebuilding and changing coaches every now and then is no good. I maybe wrong but thats the way how I see Bird.
Robin Corbin

Independence, KY

#2 May 24, 2007
Right at the heart of the matter again. Well done.

As great a player as Larry Bird was for the Celtics, you can see that they knew something when they did not let him lead them in the front office.

Too bad we didn't. Years of being mired at the bottom of the NBA's second conference lie ahead.
ottwaj

London, Canada

#3 May 24, 2007
Jeff Van Gundy was on PTI earlier in the week. When asked if he'd work for his brother Stan, he said sure, but not in the situation he's currently thinking about. Two days later, Stan Van Gundy takes himself out of the job race, and Jeff Van Gundy will probably be his top assistant at one of the prime spots.
Kravitz lover

Westfield, IN

#4 May 24, 2007
Bob, I enjoy your attempt at wit, even if it is pretty simple. But, you have to come up with a better idea than just following what the NY press and Dolan did to Isiah...Doesn't take much imagination to copy what they did to Zeke...You are better than that.
Ta Dow 2

Indianapolis, IN

#5 May 24, 2007
Stop being mad at Mitchell, Davis and Gundy...I don't blame them. I wouldn't coach a team with 2 less than average, SLOW, CLUELESS, former bench warmers who are now starters. I wouldn't coach a team with incompetent people at the top (Bird, Walsh)..I wouldn't coach a team who don't really want to win...The Simons don't care either, they're filthy rich...Pacers are a tax write off...I wouldn't be the next coach that will lose about 60 games/YEAR for 2 years, GET FIRED and be the laughing stock of the NBA COACHES. I would let someone else be the scapegoat. Pacers will be losers as long as Bird is in top management...And please don't add that incompetent, complacent, no coaching Carlisle in top management...If they add Carlisle: Pacers will be losers for 10 years straight...WELLLLLL????
Please Quit

Clayton, IN

#6 May 24, 2007
Kravitz lover wrote:
Bob, I enjoy your attempt at wit, even if it is pretty simple. But, you have to come up with a better idea than just following what the NY press and Dolan did to Isiah...Doesn't take much imagination to copy what they did to Zeke...You are better than that.
No he is not, and never has been. Get IT!
suffering fan

Mercer, PA

#7 May 24, 2007
Has anyone noticed that the Pacers started going down hill when larry Bird came aboard ?????

I think that he should have been fired instead of the coach.

He has made nothing but stupid trades and lose draft picks.

I think that he should be made to coach
the bums or resign

A long time suffering fan
SPacer

Palo Alto, CA

#8 May 24, 2007
Larry Bird was obviously a great player, a good coach, but totally suck at management and evaluating talent.

Walsh must sit in his office smoking crack all day with the shades drawn and the lights off. Is he still alive?
steve

Bartlett, IL

#9 May 24, 2007
SPacer wrote:
Larry Bird was obviously a great player, a good coach, but totally suck at management and evaluating talent.
Walsh must sit in his office smoking crack all day with the shades drawn and the lights off. Is he still alive?
Exactly, just because you were a great player, doesn't automatically make you a great coach or front office evaluator of raw talent. I have never thought that Larry Bird was suited for this job. He did have some success as a bench coach, but that is all. It should be a long, miserable next 8-10 years in Indy. Good thing they got Conseco Fieldhouse constructed before this front office debacle took hold.
Fire Bird Committee

Louisville, KY

#10 May 24, 2007
Why is it so hard for Walsh to see that our downward spiral has been almost 100% Bird afflicted. Get this bum outta town yesterday. I don't mind seeing a rebuilding process with losing seasons and all, but to watch my beloved pacers go down the tubes with this joker at the helm is killing me.
Bird Please QUIT!!!!!!
LMAO

Atlanta, GA

#11 May 24, 2007
Kravitz lover wrote:
Bob, I enjoy your attempt at wit, even if it is pretty simple. But, you have to come up with a better idea than just following what the NY press and Dolan did to Isiah...Doesn't take much imagination to copy what they did to Zeke...You are better than that.
I disagree; I'd want to say to Bird, instead of making the team even worse by slumming it with a coach like Johnny Davis, how about you do it your damn self, at least until the team's in a position to attract a proven coach? Why pass the buck to some soon-to-be scapegoat when you made the mess yourself? What's the point?
Eric

United States

#12 May 24, 2007
I don't think the solution to the matter takes tons of imagination, which is why Kravitz used the Knicks as the model for his critique rather than pull some crazy fix-it scheme out of thin air. Looked at from an objective point of view, Larry has made some truly awful moves. In fact, one could evaluate nearly all of his choices, save firing Isaiah and drafting Danny Granger, and say that none of them turned out well. So in a situation where not even the most downtrodden of veteran coaches wants the job, i.e. Stan "I'm Pat Pat's bucket Boy" Van Gundy, it's time that Legend step up and take the helm of this ship that he built, one that is taking on water very quickly.
Jason

Indianapolis, IN

#13 May 24, 2007
Initially, I was against the Bird as coach idea. But now I think it may be a good idea. I think it is important for him to see the the talent up-close. One major problem with that is that he was dependent on great assistant coaches last time around and as far as I know, there are really know evidentally good assistants around.

I think we should also look at Dwayne Casey or Paul Silas.

Oh, I also have to say Mark Jackson's statement are uncool. He bailed on the Pacers and Reggie in particular the year after the our Finals run and now he is presumptious enough to believe that he should be handed an awesome team even though he's never even been an assistant coach?
aws in san antone

San Antonio, TX

#14 May 24, 2007
wait until after the Spurs have gotten their fourht title and go after P J Carlisemo
Justice

Eminence, IN

#15 May 24, 2007
LMAO wrote:
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I disagree; I'd want to say to Bird, instead of making the team even worse by slumming it with a coach like Johnny Davis, how about you do it your damn self, at least until the team's in a position to attract a proven coach? Why pass the buck to some soon-to-be scapegoat when you made the mess yourself? What's the point?
I agree 110% He should be the one to "coach" this team, after all, he is the one responsible for putting this "team" together!!
Rick

Ashburn, VA

#16 May 24, 2007
Oh my gosh, I agree w/ Kravitz, so he must be right. I thought that after the last big trade. Bird brought these guys in, he should coach them, just as Bird's "buddy" Isiah was forced to do in NY.
Ta Dow 2

Indianapolis, IN

#17 May 24, 2007
Mark, Dwayne, and Paul don't take this pathetic job...Let Loser Larry take it...He's the incompetent talent evaluator who has made nothing but pitiful trades...How can the Simons sit and watch Bird and Walsh make them look like incompetent idiots?$$$$-My BAd...
I hope no one takes this job...Let Loser Larry do it...THE PACERS STARTED TO GO DOWN WHEN THAT HICK GOT HERE...He needs to do the Indiana Pacers and the State a favor and QUIT....
Hoosier Jones

Cleveland, OH

#18 May 24, 2007
I agree, Larry has made the bed let him sleep in it. The responsibilty for the talent or lack of talent squarely is on his shoulders (Donnie Walsh is off the hook). This would give Larry the best feel for what talent/character he has on this team.

Let Donnie work on Strategy/Building the team and let Larry motivate direct the talent, there will no where to hide.

What were/are the Pacers trying to do:

1. Run- Go get Players that Run
2. Slow Down- Stay with a coach that has a slow methodical offense (Rick Carisle)
3. Get Players from Golden State that Fit a Slow Methodical Style
4. Fire the Coach cause Things aren't working out
5. What is the Strategy in Pacer Land???

I like your quote "Ultimately, there is one person who should be coaching this team, one man who knows and likes this team's talent. He bought the groceries and now it's time to cook the dinner, just like his old buddy Isiah Thomas."

It is time to Lead and clean up the mess or hire another Coach you can hang it on if things don't work out.

It is depressing to see how far the Pacers have fallen. No Reggie to save us any More?
terry

Paoli, IN

#19 May 24, 2007
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODY CARES ANYMORE!!!!
JUST CHEER FOR THE HOOSIERS,BOILERS,BULLDOGS,IRIS H OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO PLAYS HARD AND HAS A LOVE OF THE GAME.
pau spraggs

Aldie, VA

#20 May 24, 2007
Good article. Captured the issues right on target.

Moving JO while some value exists would seem to be bitter pill team should follow esecially if he can fetch some good young talent. I think Boston, Washington, and LA (Lakers) might be reasonable trading partners. If Clippers open to Cory M for Mike D plus Williams then pull the trigger too.

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