Forward thinking: Minnesota Timberwolves' draft-day blockbuster...

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Thanks to a phone call late Thursday night from Memphis Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley to Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor, an eight-player trade between the teams is expected to have an immediate impact on the ...

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d mcclay

Owasso, OK

#1 Jun 27, 2008
when was mchales last year wth the celtics and what year was love born ?
that would make him how old when he watched mchale ?
wolves are adding 5.38 million to saliries in two seasons, but dropping jarics 7.625 in three seasons. wolves are dropping a total of 2.345 million over three seasons.
not saving that much dollar wise overall.
d mcclay

Owasso, OK

#2 Jun 27, 2008
my bad, many big fish after next season too.
KPB

Lakeville, MN

#3 Jun 28, 2008
Love's dad had videos of the Celtics that he watched.

Hope Love turns out to be a player in the NBA. I was pretty skeptical of this deal at first. I hope it works out for the TWolves. I don't think I watched more than a couple minutes of any game last year. We had better clear a lot of cap room and make sure we don't make bad signings like we have in the past. Don't sign someone because you think you need to sign someone. Get a player you really want that can fill a need.
DizzyOne

Lawrenceville, GA

#4 Jun 28, 2008
Loosers trading with loosers, so both teams can continue their losing ways.
Diesel

Plymouth, MN

#5 Jun 28, 2008
I don't mind the trade that much, but I just think the TWolves could have had Memphis include one of their many pg's (Lowry/Crittendon) in the deal. IMO, the TWolves didn't get enough in return.
ray

Sioux Falls, SD

#6 Jun 28, 2008
why not use the money that we just freed up and buy out that dudes contract from europe that we drafted in the second round shucks if the guy actually has the skills to be a lottery pick theres our center of the future
Lance

Louisville, KY

#7 Jun 28, 2008
Blockbuster trade? Mcdumbshit got the twolves in the financial straits they were in, by signing that incredible no talent Jarek to a salary way beyond his value. They trade one need, a perimiter shooter, draft a center that we need but can't have until he is over the hill, and who knows what they will do now. All I can say is Mchale built the celtics into a world champ last year, and must have drafted for the celtics future needs. Way to go you dumb shit.
Doc T

United States

#8 Jun 28, 2008
The key component for the T-Wolves is getting Miller in the deal. Love may or may not have a good career in the nba, but Miller is a known quantity. Dumping bad salraies is also a plus, so that the team can go out and sign a free agent pg.
What up

Watseka, IL

#9 Jun 28, 2008
Diesel wrote:
I don't mind the trade that much, but I just think the TWolves could have had Memphis include one of their many pg's (Lowry/Crittendon) in the deal. IMO, the TWolves didn't get enough in return.
I agree Diesel. With the expiring $10m for Walkers deal & the premium on a player such as Mayo, I think we should have gotten a little more. I'm sorry to see they traded Chalmers rights. I think he could have been a very good player. I didn't see Chalmers play much, but he looked good in the NCAA tourney. The problem with this deal is, is that we still have Wittman coaching these guys. I would liked to see how Dwane Casey would coach this team. I think he was wrongly fired by McHale. I don't know how McHale keeps avoiding taking any blame. He's had 3 coaches in 5 years. NOTE TO GLEN TAYLOR----Maybe it's not the coaches.
Eric

United States

#10 Jun 28, 2008
Doc T wrote:
The key component for the T-Wolves is getting Miller in the deal. Love may or may not have a good career in the nba, but Miller is a known quantity. Dumping bad salraies is also a plus, so that the team can go out and sign a free agent pg.
Are you kidding me?!? A trade for 3 American-born, slow-footed white dudes would be bad by definition even in HOCKEY!!!
Dr K

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Jun 28, 2008
I still say McHale is trying to reconstruct a version of his old Celtics team, but that he needs to remember what that team would have been like without Larry Bird. We have no Larry Bird, and there is none on the horizon. This latest move is not so much a bad decision as a dubious bet. Mayo, perhaps, could have been his Bird. Its easier to find a McHale, an Ainge, a Dennis Johnson, or any of the other Celtics pieces than it is to find a Bird. You don't trade that possibility away until at least a year of watching him. Maybe he'll be the next McCants; maybe he'll be more. But to throw away a chance at something special in order to increase the basic competence of the team is a dubious proposition at best.
Vance Inverness FL

Tampa, FL

#12 Jun 28, 2008
We're missing the boat on the idea of trading a lottery pick. Like the Vikes think-why pay an unproven rookie millions when we can lure a younger unhappy, yet proven veteran (ie Jared Allen)Dangle that pick in front of a team long enough and get a bonified star and maybe some bonus help. Miller will help but not enough. I hope they can use the $ to get a good FA but like a previous writer said "don't spend just to spend" Or like another writer said, use the savings to buy out that big Serb. Seems the draft commentators thought highly of him.
All in all this is a messed up team that should be more established after all these years.
Larry

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Jun 28, 2008
d mcclay wrote:
when was mchales last year wth the celtics and what year was love born ?
that would make him how old when he watched mchale ?
wolves are adding 5.38 million to saliries in two seasons, but dropping jarics 7.625 in three seasons. wolves are dropping a total of 2.345 million over three seasons.
not saving that much dollar wise overall.
They got rid of salaries but they took on salaries also..........Their salary cap freedom looks to be two years out and by then they will have had to resign Gomes, Smith, McCants, Foye and maybe even Brewer. There goes that line of thinking..........
reeser

AOL

#14 Jun 28, 2008
I don't know if anyone saw all the Bruins games this year, but the Love kid is a player!! He does all the little things, and we needed help in the frontcourt big time. We really don't know how good O.J. or Kevin Love will be, but if you listened to Stephen A Smith, he clearly believes we got the better end of the deal. With Millers ability to knock down 3's at a high clip, and Love and Jefferson down there to clean up. Guaranteed more wins for us this year. Besides I really believe Randy Foye has alot of upside, more so than alot of people around here believe. If we can Telfair to sign, and get Shaddy to play some defense we'll be just fine. Boston just dominated the Lakers on the boards. We still need another big to come in and help.
PKhaab

United States

#15 Jun 28, 2008
I believe the T'Wolves got the better end of the deal. I mean we get Kevin Love and Mike Miller in which both will be starting for this team either at the beginning or middle of the season. Collins contract is up at the end of the year and Cardinals contract ends in two years. Perfect timing for that big free agent class in 2010. I'm talking about Dwayne Wade, Lebron James, Chris Bosh and several other talents. These guys can opt out of there contracts in 2010, starting with Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Rip Hamilton, Kobe Bryant, Amare Stoudemire, Manu Ginobili, Carlos Boozer, Yao Ming, Dirk Nowitzki, and others. Imagine after two years the T'Wolves have a core of Foye, Miller, Brewer, Love and Jefferson playing together for the last two seasons which could attract a point guard like Paul or Williams.Good luck T'wolves, I'll be supporting this team for years to come.
Jack Hammer

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Jun 28, 2008
Remember this name, Hasheem Thabeet, he is the prototype for the new NBA center.
Grover of the West

United States

#17 Jun 28, 2008
Take my word on this, Love was easily the best player in the Pac-10 last year. I was very excited when I got my chance to go see Mayo play live and left pretty disappointed. The Wolves accomplished three great things with this deal. 1. Said goodbye to Jaric, 2. Got the third best player in the draft, 3. Added a proven shooter who was an Olympic candidate. To the McHale haters, I am with you and am frankly suprised he could get this deal done. Jefferson will get well needed help in the paint and we will see his range expanded. For all saying Love is slow footed, you have not seen him play in person. This guy is a complete player who actually wanted to be in Minnesota.
Jack Hammer

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Jun 28, 2008
reeser wrote:
I don't know if anyone saw all the Bruins games this year, but the Love kid is a player!! He does all the little things, and we needed help in the frontcourt big time. We really don't know how good O.J. or Kevin Love will be, but if you listened to Stephen A Smith, he clearly believes we got the better end of the deal. With Millers ability to knock down 3's at a high clip, and Love and Jefferson down there to clean up. Guaranteed more wins for us this year. Besides I really believe Randy Foye has alot of upside, more so than alot of people around here believe. If we can Telfair to sign, and get Shaddy to play some defense we'll be just fine. Boston just dominated the Lakers on the boards. We still need another big to come in and help.
I'm a college basketball junkie and I have seen Love play a few times. Nobody is disputing that he is a good player. The problem is that he had many favorable match-ups in college that he will not have in the NBA ... including quite a few games at center vs. 3-guard sets
Also, it's fair to note that Love played with a pretty talented point-guard and small-forward in college ... something he will not have in the pros.
Larry

Duluth, MN

#19 Jun 28, 2008
PKhaab wrote:
I believe the T'Wolves got the better end of the deal. I mean we get Kevin Love and Mike Miller in which both will be starting for this team either at the beginning or middle of the season. Collins contract is up at the end of the year and Cardinals contract ends in two years. Perfect timing for that big free agent class in 2010. I'm talking about Dwayne Wade, Lebron James, Chris Bosh and several other talents. These guys can opt out of there contracts in 2010, starting with Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Rip Hamilton, Kobe Bryant, Amare Stoudemire, Manu Ginobili, Carlos Boozer, Yao Ming, Dirk Nowitzki, and others. Imagine after two years the T'Wolves have a core of Foye, Miller, Brewer, Love and Jefferson playing together for the last two seasons which could attract a point guard like Paul or Williams.Good luck T'wolves, I'll be supporting this team for years to come.
90% of those guys will renew before their current contract before it expires, that is if their current teams think they are worth it. The remaining ones will go to teams like the Lakers or Knicks, they won't consider the Twolves. We will get whats left and will way overpay for their services and by the time the contract is done we will be looking to unload it just like Jaric.

Your really dreaming if you think MN can lure a big time talent to go with AJ and Love(?). The way for the Twolves to get that "special" player they will have to draft him, and as long as McHale is here he'll keep screwin it up.

The only way a player can get max money is from the team they are presently on, unless a sign and trade deal is done. The Twolves are screwed and screwed for a long time. Look at teams like Golden State the Clippers. When your a bad team it is very hard to get better. Heck look at Boston, the only reason their better is because of a buffoon like McHale. Otherwise they would still be in bad shape like they've been for years.
d mcclay

Owasso, OK

#20 Jun 28, 2008
Doc T wrote:
The key component for the T-Wolves is getting Miller in the deal. Love may or may not have a good career in the nba, but Miller is a known quantity. Dumping bad salraies is also a plus, so that the team can go out and sign a free agent pg.
after next season, not this season.

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