i love camby but as i said before the trade for blake and outlaw was a good one. they needed the quality backup point guard (blake) and a forward who can rebound, drain the three and be consistent (outlaw). getting two good players for one good player is good math in my book. gooden was also a nice pickup. he is in the middle of the action. thornton never crashed the boards and was invisible too much of the time. kaman needs to play better D and get after the rebounds more. by the way, i played high school ball back east and college ball in the midwest, so i aint a local valley yahoo giving my uniformed opinion.