Knicks trade Balkman for two Nuggets,...

Knicks trade Balkman for two Nuggets, draft pick

There are 20 comments on the Newsday story from Jul 29, 2008, titled Knicks trade Balkman for two Nuggets, draft pick. In it, Newsday reports that:

Donnie Walsh's first move toward debt consolidation for the Knicks was a modest one, but then again, even a hundred-million-dollar journey has to begin with one step.

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bruce fields

New York, NY

#1 Jul 29, 2008
Why doesn't duhon;s agent get more props as best agent in nba? There are better guys signing 2 year deals right and left for the minimum, or for $2mm per, and now delonte is saying hhe shuodl get at least "duhon money".
Knicks Fixer

Levittown, NY

#2 Jul 29, 2008
Balkman wasn't going to play anyway so dropping a million helps.

The Knicks get healthier after this season when Marbury and James' contracts come off the books.

They need to move Randolph's salary to clear space after 2010.

I would also trade Jared Jeffries back to Washington, where he fits , for Etan Thomas. They make about the same amount but Thomas' contract expires in 2 years while Jeffries has 3 years remaining. Plus, Thomas fights with Haywood and is behind Blatche in the rotation.
jys22

United States

#3 Jul 29, 2008
While the trade does seem impulsive at first glance (considering Donnie's 'blunder' with getting rid of Zach), Balkman is the odd man out anyway because we're talking about the D'Antoni system here. Alright, so he may be a strong defensive presence that will be missed but his compulsiveness and some times out-of-control tendencies doesn't fit well with a system that doesn't stress defense in the first place. I had wish the Knicks could have gotten a better deal for Balkman. And I hope that Donnie does more this summer because there certainly is a lot of retooling to do.
Kyonk

Mineola, NY

#4 Jul 29, 2008
Good trade, he's a liability on offense.
Its gonna take awhile

Rineyville, KY

#5 Jul 29, 2008
I think this was a good move and the first in what is going to be a long year for the knicks. Make no mistake, I think they will get better this year under D'antonio, but it will be years before Walsh can untangle the mess that Thomas created. I don't expect much from the Knicks this year or next as far as the post season goes, but I do look forward to them being competitive once again finally and slowly turning the page back to respectability. I think it will be nice finally be able to watcha Knicks game again.
Phil Elberfeld

Williamsburg, VA

#6 Jul 29, 2008
Its gonna take awhile wrote:
I think this was a good move and the first in what is going to be a long year for the knicks. Make no mistake, I think they will get better this year under D'antonio, but it will be years before Walsh can untangle the mess that Thomas created. I don't expect much from the Knicks this year or next as far as the post season
goes, but I do look forward to them being competitive once again finally and slowly turning the page back to respectability. I think it will be nice finally be able to watcha Knicks game again.
Good post. We will get there with a group of winners eventually: skilled, smart, system players who will rock the Garden with D'Antoni ball!
Spencer

United States

#7 Jul 29, 2008
The last guy that got traded to the Nuggets went on to be NBA Defensive Player of the Year.
Jerry

AOL

#8 Jul 29, 2008
Spencer wrote:
The last guy that got traded to the Nuggets went on to be NBA Defensive Player of the Year.
Yeah, Ya think the Knicks might catch on that trading with Denver and Chicago don't work so good.

“Defending Champs”

Since: Jul 08

Red Sox, Nation

#9 Jul 29, 2008
FAIL
Knicks will always suck eggs, go Celtics and Wizards!
Jerry

AOL

#10 Jul 29, 2008
Ridiculous....absolutely Ridiculous, Balkman could do more than any other Knick in total. He ran the court, Blocked shots, scored on garbage put backs ( didn't need a play called for him), could pass off the fast break, stole the ball in the open court, rebounded with reckless abandon and got traded.....for nothing. The last trade that p i s s e d me off this bad was the Randolf trade. You gotta be kidding me Donnie. Richardson should be the first to go, he isn't even a small forward and can't hit an open shot, never mind run the floor, pass, block a shot or make a steal. He is one dimensional, Balkman was the most multi-dimensional guy on the team and he played hard. This is what really undermines a team. Balkman could also play defense....HELLO ???? I need to manage the Knicks, thats it, Dolan, I will do it for half the price of Donnie and get you better results. I never even played basketball but I know what is valuable. A player that can do all things well IS VALUABLE.....HELLO ????? Last year I spoke out against the Randolf trade when everyone was for it.....now what are THEY saying.....if you look above THEY are all saying this is a good trade.....NOT.....Watch what Balkman does for Denver....in that sense it is a good trade for him because he will be able to show the league what a shallow group they are in the front office. KNUCKLEHEADS. Now, my next bit of advice is also against the mainstream....keep Marbury and Randolf until someone gives up a player or a pick midseason because they think they can win it all....it will happen and will also give D'Antonio a chance to show that Marbury and Randolf can play. So kudos to you Donnie for not giving Randolf to the Clippers and giving up a pick. Now no more trades please....not Collins, not Lee, OK you can get rid of Richardson, not cause I hate him, he's a hard worker and can play somewhere, he is just not dynamic enough in all areas of the game....he says he is in shape and ready to play, fine package him and someone else (Randolf, Marbury, Rose ( I like'm but too old and last year) or James) and get some picks or good role players who are young. Before you make the next trade Donnie give me a call and we'll talk, OK? Really.
Steven Upright

Jackson Heights, NY

#11 Jul 30, 2008
This move is ridiculous. Watching the Knicks these past couple of seasons has been painful to say the least. Renaldo, while possessing no offensive game to speak of (other than the occasional flush off the break) brought elements of winning basketball that no one else on the roster did. Specifically the ability to change the game without the ball. All out on the floor hustle, amazing individual lockdown defense, shot blocking, and rebounding at both ends. And, at a cheap salary to boot. If you wanna talk salary dumps-fine, let's start with Zack Randolph, move on to Jerome James and Jared Jeffries. I like the all around game of Quentin Richardson, but he is the only superior player at that position on the roster. I like David Lees' hustle and rebounding but if you actually saw the game saw I did-every one of them-he really can not play D-and besides they are supposedly about to dump him, too. I think they have it all ass backwards (including the anticipated buyout of Steph who just happens to be their BEST PLAYER. If you put Renaldo on the floor with Curry, Marbury, Crawford-and any 4 man you want-he does not need to score and he does not need the ball-at all-to help the team win. He brings everything this team has lacked and commodities that most NBA teams really need. Too bad the Nuggets managed to see this and the Knicks don't. PATHETIC and INFURIATING.
DiehardKnickFan

New York, NY

#12 Jul 30, 2008
Well there goes Ron Artest.

“I just want a Championship”

Since: Jul 08

Harlem

#13 Jul 30, 2008
Let's see what big fish can reel in. This should be interesting.

“I just want a Championship”

Since: Jul 08

Harlem

#14 Jul 30, 2008
We are going to be good, but if we really want to win we have to get some big names that can instantly produce. Like what Boston did.
Pacers Fan

Utica, KY

#15 Jul 31, 2008
DieHardKnickFan wrote:
We are going to be good, but if we really want to win we have to get some big names that can instantly produce. Like what Boston did.
Hey Diehard fan, how bout this you trade the Pacers Jerome James for PG-Jamaal Tinsley???????

PS.
Remember way back when the Knicks and Pacers were good and always duked it out for either a trip to the NBA finals or the Eastern Conference finals?
And do you remember then Phil Jackson played for the Knickerbockers?
18andDONEwithout CHEATING

Utica, KY

#16 Jul 31, 2008
RedSox Nation24 wrote:
FAIL
Knicks will always suck eggs, go Celtics and Wizards!
So will the Patriots with that Giant superbowl loss on their backs.

Go Colts & Celtics.

PS.
Montreal sucks.
Pacers Fan

Utica, KY

#17 Jul 31, 2008
Jerry wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, Ya think the Knicks might catch on that trading with Denver and Chicago don't work so good.
I think this trade would work out great for the Knicks:

Jerome James to the Pacers for PG-Jamaal Tinsley!!!!!!!!!!
venom

Albany, NY

#18 Jul 31, 2008
Kyonk wrote:
Good trade, he's a liability on offense.
The good teams need guys who don't need the ball to be sucessful. But in the new system with the ball moving and everybody touching the ball you need to have guys on the floor who can make a open shot.
venom

Albany, NY

#19 Jul 31, 2008
DieHardKnickFan wrote:
We are going to be good, but if we really want to win we have to get some big names that can instantly produce. Like what Boston did.
yea all you need is an ex teamate willing to trade you one of the top 5 players in the NBA, like Garnett.... an easy formula for winning
Jerry

AOL

#21 Aug 2, 2008
The more I think of this trade the more sick it makes me. Do the Fans have a say? S h e e e t. This is such a moronic trade. There are a couple of causes for this trade. 1. The media....they can't leave the team alone. They are always bad mouthing the players on the team...and any new management that comes along, if the team does not win right away. They are too impatient to wait for the fruition of young players too develop. What did the knicks get for Channing Frye, Trevor Ariza and Balkman? Nothing. They were too soft, not smart enough, not developing fast enough. They were young players that needed direction and time. You draft these players to develop them, let the fans develop them into their favorites and then trade them. Unbelieveable. Is getting rid of Balman going to get you James? What if James doesn't want to come here, gets hurt, goes bad on drugs, etc. Their are hundreds of scenarios that could occur. Develop the team now. Balkman might be a better all around player than Chandler in a couple of years. You don't know. He had some awesome skills and heart to boot. He helped his team win two championships. You can't measure that with and intelligence meter. He was one of the few knicks that could block a shot. Man, Donnie what were you thinking, were you out drinking and decided you didn't like Balkmans hair? Were you just bored and needed to do something? What if someone on the team gets hurt? What if 2 or 3 get hurt, it's happened before. Donnie the fans need an explanation for this move besides they were too stacked at small forward....thats BS, Balkman was a defensive specialist with talents like no one else in the league. Stop listening to the sportswriters and look at the talent. The Knicks were not a bad team last year, they had streches when they were healthy that they could play with anyone, all they needed was a little more time to jell together and hone their skills. Now you're breaking that up? Wait till mid season before you make trades like that and get rid of older players first, Richardson, Rose, James, should go first. Stop the madness....I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more.

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