Kevin Durant leaves Timberwolves gasping

Kevin Durant leaves Timberwolves gasping

There are 23 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jan 26, 2011, titled Kevin Durant leaves Timberwolves gasping. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

There was admiration and respect in the Timberwolves' locker room Wednesday night at Target Center for Oklahoma City star Kevin Durant, even in the aftermath of another painful, narrow defeat.

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wherestheD

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Jan 27, 2011
Will anyone one this team ever play defense?
CamelTow

Calgary, Canada

#2 Jan 27, 2011
..........
my Vegas bet of over /under 25 wins this season is looking very promising.......
one thing you can ALWAYS count on is the Wolves losing..........
The Hard Truth

Northome, MN

#3 Jan 27, 2011
Okay, I've figured it out. I should probably be posting this over on Canishoopus to get some response, but I've backed off from that site since Britt left -- too many stat heads. Plus, I don't dare get embroiled. But, every once in a while even the blind pig finds an acorn. And here's what this blind pig just found: the difference between last year's team and this year's team, and why this year's team seems so much better, even though the record may well end up being worse.

Here it is: last year's team was Love, Jefferson, and spare parts. This year's team is Love, Beasley, and "not quites." Stay with me here. Last night's game revealed this team at its best. And the question becomes, who other than Love or Beasley can take the next step? Last year it was obvious. You knew Gomes couldn't. You knew Hollins couldn't. You went right down the line and saw guys who added up to a bucket of bolts. They were, as our old racist football coach said, "who we thought they were." And they're proving it this year.

But think of last night's game. Wes is almost there. Darko is almost there. Brewer is almost there. The jury is out on whether or not Flynn is almost there, and it doesn't look good. But all of them show signs of being a third wheel, and they just drive you crazy.

Luke is God's own back-up point guard. If we get a first string point guard, he will be great in the back-up role. Tolliver is tantalizing and may be a solid back-up, but he is starting to look like one of the bolts in the bucket. So is Webster. Pek, to me, seems like he belongs in the bolt bucket, and Koufos certainly does. Rightly or wrongly, Kahn or Rambis has already consigned Telfair to the bolt bucket.

Last year, everyone was in that bucket and we had to trade them or release them or take a chance that we were wrong in our assessment. This year we've got people who tantalize us, and with good cause. There is nothing but good that can come from letting the tantalizers play themselves out until they either emerge or fall into the bolt bucket. There is a good chance that one of the four -- Wes, Darko, Brewer, and Flynn -- will prove to be at least slightly special. Right now we are trying to plug them in where their strengths are, and in some cases -- Flynn, especially -- it is hard to find any areas of strength. But the rest of this season will tell the tale.

Here's my take:

Johnson's first year reminds me of KG's first year -- a kid who is too tentative and a little spooked by what he is confronting in the NBA. Though he's older than KG was, I'd place good money on him figuring things out.

Brewer's a goofball player who can be a catalyst and disruptor. He's a great "off the bench" element for a team that has a solid group of starters. Probably trade bait.

Darko needs coaching, and he is not getting it. All he has is the back-down baby hook, and that's not enough. Where's McHale when we finally need him? And what the hell is Laimbeer even here for? Maybe hire Jim Pete to work with him, or something. He needs to learn some moves. If he does, he could, truly, be the manna that Kahn claimed.

Flynn? He's quick, he's funky, and he's got a chance. But he can't think ahead of the game like a small point guard needs to do. He's reactive rather than pro-active and seems to see no seams. Think Nash or JKidd. Flynn looks more like Marcus Banks than either of them. Bad odds right now.

The rest are bolts, with the possible exception of Tolliver.

Here's the million dollar question, though: Is Rambis a "not quite" who just needs time, or does he belong in the coaches' bolt bucket with Wittman, Jimmy Rodgers, and so many who have gone before?
Shagger

Australia

#4 Jan 27, 2011
Just give Pekovic this year to adjust and next season he will explode with Rubio feeding him.

NIKOLA PEKOVIC sha la la la la
the real just another day

Hugo, MN

#5 Jan 27, 2011
The Hard Truth wrote:
Okay, I've figured it out. I should probably be posting this over on Canishoopus to get some response, but I've backed off from that site since Britt left -- too many stat heads. Plus, I don't dare get embroiled. But, every once in a while even the blind pig finds an acorn. And here's what this blind pig just found: the difference between last year's team and this year's team, and why this year's team seems so much better, even though the record may well end up being worse.
Here it is: last year's team was Love, Jefferson, and spare parts. This year's team is Love, Beasley, and "not quites." Stay with me here. Last night's game revealed this team at its best. And the question becomes, who other than Love or Beasley can take the next step? Last year it was obvious. You knew Gomes couldn't. You knew Hollins couldn't. You went right down the line and saw guys who added up to a bucket of bolts. They were, as our old racist football coach said, "who we thought they were." And they're proving it this year.


But think of last night's game. Wes is almost there. Darko is almost there. Brewer is almost there. The jury is out on whether or not Flynn is almost there, and it doesn't look good. But all of them show signs of being a third wheel, and they just drive you crazy.
Luke is God's own back-up point guard. If we get a first string point guard, he will be great in the back-up role. Tolliver is tantalizing and may be a solid back-up, but he is starting to look like one of the bolts in the bucket. So is Webster. Pek, to me, seems like he belongs in the bolt bucket, and Koufos certainly does. Rightly or wrongly, Kahn or Rambis has already consigned Telfair to the bolt bucket.
Last year, everyone was in that bucket and we had to trade them or release them or take a chance that we were wrong in our assessment. This year we've got people who tantalize us, and with good cause. There is nothing but good that can come from letting the tantalizers play themselves out until they either emerge or fall into the bolt bucket. There is a good chance that one of the four -- Wes, Darko, Brewer, and Flynn -- will prove to be at least slightly special. Right now we are trying to plug them in where their strengths are, and in some cases -- Flynn, especially -- it is hard to find any areas of strength. But the rest of this season will tell the tale.
Here's my take:
Johnson's first year reminds me of KG's first year -- a kid who is too tentative and a little spooked by what he is confronting in the NBA. Though he's older than KG was, I'd place good money on him figuring things out.
Brewer's a goofball player who can be a catalyst and disruptor. He's a great "off the bench" element for a team that has a solid group of starters. Probably trade bait.
Darko needs coaching, and he is not getting it. All he has is the back-down baby hook, and that's not enough. Where's McHale when we finally need him? And what the hell is Laimbeer even here for? Maybe hire Jim Pete to work with him, or something. He needs to learn some moves. If he does, he could, truly, be the manna that Kahn claimed.
Flynn? He's quick, he's funky, and he's got a chance. But he can't think ahead of the game like a small point guard needs to do. He's reactive rather than pro-active and seems to see no seams. Think Nash or JKidd. Flynn looks more like Marcus Banks than either of them. Bad odds right now.
The rest are bolts, with the possible exception of Tolliver.
Here's the million dollar question, though: Is Rambis a "not quite" who just needs time, or does he belong in the coaches' bolt bucket with Wittman, Jimmy Rodgers, and so many who have gone before?
Wow. All that for a broball game? Here is the short version:

Just another day in loserville....
the real just another day

Hugo, MN

#6 Jan 27, 2011
The Hard Truth wrote:
Okay, I've figured it out. I should probably be posting this over on Canishoopus to get some response, but I've backed off from that site since Britt left -- too many stat heads. Plus, I don't dare get embroiled. But, every once in a while even the blind pig finds an acorn. And here's what this blind pig just found: the difference between last year's team and this year's team, and why this year's team seems so much better, even though the record may well end up being worse.
Here it is: last year's team was Love, Jefferson, and spare parts. This year's team is Love, Beasley, and "not quites." Stay with me here. Last night's game revealed this team at its best. And the question becomes, who other than Love or Beasley can take the next step? Last year it was obvious. You knew Gomes couldn't. You knew Hollins couldn't. You went right down the line and saw guys who added up to a bucket of bolts. They were, as our old racist football coach said, "who we thought they were." And they're proving it this year.
But think of last night's game. Wes is almost there. Darko is almost there. Brewer is almost there. The jury is out on whether or not Flynn is almost there, and it doesn't look good. But all of them show signs of being a third wheel, and they just drive you crazy.
Luke is God's own back-up point guard. If we get a first string point guard, he will be great in the back-up role. Tolliver is tantalizing and may be a solid back-up, but he is starting to look like one of the bolts in the bucket. So is Webster. Pek, to me, seems like he belongs in the bolt bucket, and Koufos certainly does. Rightly or wrongly, Kahn or Rambis has already consigned Telfair to the bolt bucket.
Last year, everyone was in that bucket and we had to trade them or release them or take a chance that we were wrong in our assessment. This year we've got people who tantalize us, and with good cause. There is nothing but good that can come from letting the tantalizers play themselves out until they either emerge or fall into the bolt bucket. There is a good chance that one of the four -- Wes, Darko, Brewer, and Flynn -- will prove to be at least slightly special. Right now we are trying to plug them in where their strengths are, and in some cases -- Flynn, especially -- it is hard to find any areas of strength. But the rest of this season will tell the tale.
Here's my take:
Johnson's first year reminds me of KG's first year -- a kid who is too tentative and a little spooked by what he is confronting in the NBA. Though he's older than KG was, I'd place good money on him figuring things out.
Brewer's a goofball player who can be a catalyst and disruptor. He's a great "off the bench" element for a team that has a solid group of starters. Probably trade bait.
Darko needs coaching, and he is not getting it. All he has is the back-down baby hook, and that's not enough. Where's McHale when we finally need him? And what the hell is Laimbeer even here for? Maybe hire Jim Pete to work with him, or something. He needs to learn some moves. If he does, he could, truly, be the manna that Kahn claimed.
Flynn? He's quick, he's funky, and he's got a chance. But he can't think ahead of the game like a small point guard needs to do. He's reactive rather than pro-active and seems to see no seams. Think Nash or JKidd. Flynn looks more like Marcus Banks than either of them. Bad odds right now.
The rest are bolts, with the possible exception of Tolliver.
Here's the million dollar question, though: Is Rambis a "not quite" who just needs time, or does he belong in the coaches' bolt bucket with Wittman, Jimmy Rodgers, and so many who have gone before?
Wow. All that for a tdoodles game? Here is the short version:
Just another day in loserville....

Since: Jan 09

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Jan 27, 2011
A big part of the responsibility for the loss is on Rambis. They had success in the 1st half with their small lineup out there - Love, Beasley, Johnson, Brewer, and Ridnour - yet for much of the 3rd quarter, Rambis had Darko out there, even though he was giving the team nothing last night. I was there - they didn't play bad defense on Durant. He was just on fire, hitting everything even with people right on him. If Ridnour hits 2 FT's (rather than 1) with a few seconds left in regulation, I'd like to say they would have won, but Durant probably would have just hit a 3 with defenders hanging on him anyway.
fracas

Tucson, AZ

#8 Jan 27, 2011
THT,

You are more charitable than I. Here is my assessment of your four "almost there's".

Johnson is the only one of the four with real chance of being anything more than a journeyman. Johnson does not dribble very well, and is already 23. Oddly enough for a shooter, Johnson seems to not shoot free throws very well. Is Johnson too nice? Can you ever picture Johnson knocking someone down without picking the guy up and apologizing? Those are the negatives. The positives are that Johnson has a nice stroke, nice size, and good athleticism. Johnson seems to see the court pretty well for a rookie. Johnson talks about learning from Kobe. Maybe he needs to take a refresher course in aggressiveness while in LA.

Brewer is all about energy. He plays best when things are all helter-skelter and he doesn't have to handle the ball. Will he ever develop a good handle.....I don't think so. Will he ever develop a reliable shot? No, probably not. I like his energy, but I think his lack of a handle and a shot make him a bench player. If he can't dribble, or shoot, how can he be "almost there" and become the third wheel we need?

Darko frustrates the hell out of me. Some beautiful plays, and then mostly garbage. Darko commits some of the dumbest fouls and takes himself out of the game. He seems to lack conditioning. He is weak with the ball and constantly gets stripped. He cannot shoot free throws. For a 7 footer, he is a poor rebounder. He seems to lack any passion for the game. The dude is 25-26 years old and has had 7 seasons to show what he has got. I would love to be wrong, but how many more coaches does he have to kill before people just admit that he isn't going to ever be what people think he could. So, to say he is "almost there" is about like trying to drive from Minneapolis to New York and saying that you are "almost there" when you cross the Mississippi.

Flynn gets ripped in these pages as much as anyone. The guy is almost a midget by NBA standards and doesn't have the requisite explosiveness that you need to have when you are the smallest guy on the court. Combine a lack of size, a lack of explosiveness, AND a relatively poor outside shot, and you have a CBA player or NBA 3rd stringer. I will give Flynn a little more time as he has been injured. Perhaps he has a chance to be the third wheel, but I rather doubt it.

I think the Wolves need to look to the draft to find the third piece, and not be afraid to take what they find, even if it is another PG. Other than Johnson, and Flynn in a stretch, I don't think the third piece of the puzzle is on the roster.

Thanks for your post. As always, just my opinion.
DD Austin

Brandon, MS

#9 Jan 27, 2011
Every team the Tender-Wolves play leave them gasping! What you talkin-bout?
The Hard Truth

Northome, MN

#10 Jan 27, 2011
the real just another day wrote:
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Wow. All that for a tdoodles game? Here is the short version:
Just another day in loserville....
You read my whole rant during your junior high class math class just to post your silly and redundant comment? Look out, the teacher might see you. Here's a thought: between classes go impress some of the girls by making armpit farts by their locker.
Wolvesfan

Rochester, MN

#11 Jan 27, 2011
Once again, close, exciting game, but a loss. All the analysis and breakdowns of the game and who was at fault mean nothing against the fact that this is still an inexperienced team playing together - and they are young. Also, it has to be very frustrating after doing everything but body-slamming Durant to the floor, he still drops 47 on you. All in all, a good game and very fun to watch - except for the last 15 seconds.

We may not have many games in the wins column this year, but I am certainly enjoying watching this team more than I did last year's group of guys.

Keep the faith! Go Wolves!
The Hard Truth

Northome, MN

#13 Jan 27, 2011
the real just another day wrote:
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I swear to god, you mudducks are sooooo dumb...
Son, it's time for you to hear the hard truth. Stop eating so many pizzas, lay off the porn sites, and pay attention in class, so someday you can post with the big dogs.
Matt45

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Jan 27, 2011
It was a great game, unfortunately you could see how it was going to end. Here's my take: Flynn isn't even a NBA caliber player, maybe not even D-League caliber player; Ridinour is nice till the 4th quarter then her turns the ball over at least every other time he touches it; and Rambis has no clue how to coach in a close game situation (example: the play he attempted at the end of regulation......ugh). Solution: Need point guard, shooting guard and coach that don't look like "deer in headlights" come 4th quarter. Maybe Rubio will help, but he wants nothing to do with Minnesota.....and I can't blame him!!
the real just another day

Hugo, MN

#15 Jan 27, 2011
The Hard Truth wrote:
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You read my whole rant during your junior high class math class just to post your silly and redundant comment? Look out, the teacher might see you. Here's a thought: between classes go impress some of the girls by making armpit farts by their locker.
I love it. The guy who posted a twelve paragraph, 1000+ word post, that maybe about five others read, using 'silly and redundant comment' in his reply. Word of the day:'ironic'.
The Hard Truth

Northome, MN

#16 Jan 27, 2011
the real just another day wrote:
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I love it. The guy who posted a twelve paragraph, 1000+ word post, that maybe about five others read, using 'silly and redundant comment' in his reply. Word of the day:'ironic'.
Lunch time's almost over. You'd better get off your iphone before the hall monitor sends you to the office. It is, after all, just another day in Junior High.
todd allen

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Jan 27, 2011
McCollow thinks the wolves are athletic
the real just another day

Hugo, MN

#18 Jan 27, 2011
The Hard Truth wrote:
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Lunch time's almost over. You'd better get off your iphone before the hall monitor sends you to the office. It is, after all, just another day in Junior High.
Hey, c'mon. These short, sweet offtopic posts have got to stop. The entire state is waiting for more of your longwinded and warmed over 'hard truth'. Or, as others have put it:'mindless drivel'.
The Hard Truth

Northome, MN

#19 Jan 27, 2011
the real just another day wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, c'mon. These short, sweet offtopic posts have got to stop. The entire state is waiting for more of your longwinded and warmed over 'hard truth'. Or, as others have put it:'mindless drivel'.
Just another day in junior high. You're in way over your head, little fella.
ouch

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Jan 27, 2011
Well, I thought it FINALLY happened last night. K-Love laying in a HEAP under the basket, eye blackened, putting up another double double of epic proportions for a losing team. Will there be anything left of him by the All Star break to build around next year?! Just think how bad this team will be WHEN he is injured. The Wolves have been an absolute MEAT GRINDER for any talented player unfortunate enough to land within Taylor's talons. Garnett, Jefferson, and now Love spill their blood every night for this dysfunctional organization.

Love, Beasley, Darko, Johnson, and Brewer are the pieces I like. They HAVE to stop running so much of the offense through Darko. They need to set him up for high percentage shots. Beasley would be outstanding if he had someone to help create space for him. Too often, he is forced to make his own space too far from the basket. Again, that SCREAMS POINT GUARD! Ridnour is a backup, and his decisions prove as much. That 3 at the end was pathetic. And where was Rambis to tell his players they had a timeout to use should they corrale a loose ball?

Finally- practice your FREE THROWS TimberWoes. LAST in the league, and something that is TOTALLY under their control through PRACTICE! Again, that's on the "Zen Master" wanna be.
the real just another day

Hugo, MN

#21 Jan 27, 2011
The Hard Truth wrote:
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Just another day in junior high. You're in way over your head, little fella.
Again, your posts are getting shorter and more off topic... wait, kinda describes you in a bizarre way. If you know what I mean. I'm thinking, just for you:

I swear to god, you mudducks are soooo dumb....

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