Kirk Hinrich leads Bulls over Bucks, 113-104

The Bulls ' bus ride to Wisconsin on Wednesday afternoon sounded quiet for reasons beyond the fact that manic Andres Nocioni and free-spirited Drew Gooden weren't on it. Read more
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Since: Aug 08

Springfield, IL

#1 Feb 18, 2009
John Salmons is a 6'6 wing who can play at the scoring guard position. He's come into his own the last three or four years with double figure scoring and high field goal percentages which means he's a quality offensive player. Brad Miller can still play as evidenced by his very high field goal percentage to go with double figure scoring. This was simply a case of a financially troubled franchise(Sacramento) dumping salaries sooner rather than later. Several teams wanted and would love to have John Salmons. Noc was shooting .414 from the field which is awful. This is a terrific trade for chicago, and the playoffs should be reachable now. It's hard to believe I'm saying this, but nice job John Paxson.
Greg from the chi

United States

#2 Feb 18, 2009
I thought I seen a horrible game called by referees a few weeks back, but tonights game topped it by a long shot.. Glad the bulls still came out with a win.. Wonder if miller would be in town an able to play Friday against the nuggets, cuz were going to need him.. I don't think I can watch another game with the duo of Noah and gray.. I wonder who would win in a foot race between gray and miller LOL... That the only knock I got against miller is he's slow, but still a good pick up..
Tiffany

United States

#3 Feb 19, 2009
they kept larry,thats whats up,and they better keep him too,they need him
Shorewood

Shorewood, IL

#4 Feb 19, 2009
Am I the only one who suffered through terrible audio on the telecast last night? The background noise so overpowered the voices of the broadcasters that I could barely hear them.

In a way, that was a blessing, but I also missed out on a lot of information.
Lamar

New York, NY

#5 Feb 19, 2009
Good game for the Bulls...
Hirinch won this game for the Bulls tonight, but don't get use to this, he has games like this only once a year, but I m so glad it happen lastnight. Tyrus needs to calm down, regadless of the dumb things he does on the floor we still need him out there playing around the basket.

Once again Deng disappears in the 2nd half (5 points). He hit that jumper with 2min left but the Bucks were done by then, bc they couldnt stop Kirk. I would start Salmons over Deng easy. Dont anyone say that Salmons should start for Gordon. Gordon has outplayed Deng & Hinrich this year, even since his rookie year, he deserves that spot. I wish we could trade Deng.

What was Vinny doing calling those timeouts last night with a minute left in the game.

Thabo plz develope a jump shot...
Hmmm

United States

#6 Feb 19, 2009
That game was boring, whether it was the bad officiating or Deng, Hinrich, and Gordon deciding to take all the shot attempts.

Who decided to let Gray back into the rotation?(according to an ESPN article, Vinny Del Negro was "by far" the worst coaching hire of the season). I agree.
LOLR

United States

#7 Feb 19, 2009
Deng is a good player. He had a good run a few weeks ago. I think he bulked up over the summer to try and help fill the low post scoring needs of the team (and legitimize his new contract) but that's just not his game. He's best as a slasher and spot-up jumpshooter and the extra weight has slowed him down while not effecting his post game at all.

He needs his role to be better defined (coaching issue) and to come back leaned and quicker next year. He's got a style that will blend well with Rose.

I think Salmons should start over Gordon. Salmon's history has shown he plays much better as a starter and everyone under the sun knows Gordon is a better 6th man - it's just a matter of him accepting that role (and the subsequent drop in salary expectations).

Hey Tif - if Larry gets traded to NY will you follow him and stop posting here?(one can hope!)
Boston BullsFan

Boston, MA

#8 Feb 19, 2009
Random Thoughts:

I am grateful they didn't trade Hinrich. There are allot of haters on this site but I still think he is a dependable PG/SG with good defensive instincts and as evidenced last night can help the team win a game or two. If you check the box scores on ESPN.com Hinrich regularly has a + and rarely a minus.

Having said that, IF the Bulls do move Hinrich, does that mean they are going to try to keep Gordon?

Doesn't Hughes have another year to go before his contract is expiring and he really becomes tradable?

I really would rather have seen Deng go in the trade than Noce. I really liked the guy. He hustled and played with fire. I think he was just frustrated the last couple years.

Hopefully Miller can teach Noah, Gray and Thomas how to play properly. I still think Miller's got some game left and should really help this team, especially on the defensive end. i don't know what Gordon was thinking when he said Offense will imrove.

My only complaint was I think the Bulls gave up 1 player to many. 4 for 2 is not a great deal imo. 3 for 2 would have been fine and then they could have at least 1 more expiring contract to deal with in case Amare or Bosh threatens a trade and either Phoenix or Toronto feels they MUST make a trade, like the wolves did with Garnett.
Nada Surf

B M Goldwater A F Range, AZ

#9 Feb 19, 2009
CentrILMark wrote:
John Salmons is a 6'6 wing who can play at the scoring guard position. He's come into his own the last three or four years with double figure scoring and high field goal percentages which means he's a quality offensive player. Brad Miller can still play as evidenced by his very high field goal percentage to go with double figure scoring. This was simply a case of a financially troubled franchise(Sacramento) dumping salaries sooner rather than later. Several teams wanted and would love to have John Salmons. Noc was shooting .414 from the field which is awful. This is a terrific trade for chicago, and the playoffs should be reachable now. It's hard to believe I'm saying this, but nice job John Paxson.
Finally, a quality post out of Ill/Central Mark.
I knew my working with you would eventually pay off.

Your thanks accepted
Nada
Nada Surf

B M Goldwater A F Range, AZ

#10 Feb 19, 2009
Shorewood wrote:
Am I the only one who suffered through terrible audio on the telecast last night? The background noise so overpowered the voices of the broadcasters that I could barely hear them.
In a way, that was a blessing, but I also missed out on a lot of information.
It was the same for me on the NBA tier...
It was probably a Wisconsin thing.
They're kind of backward there.
Nada Surf

B M Goldwater A F Range, AZ

#11 Feb 19, 2009
Lamar wrote:
Good game for the Bulls...
Hirinch won this game for the Bulls tonight, but don't get use to this, he has games like this only once a year, but I m so glad it happen lastnight. Tyrus needs to calm down, regadless of the dumb things he does on the floor we still need him out there playing around the basket.
Once again Deng disappears in the 2nd half (5 points). He hit that jumper with 2min left but the Bucks were done by then, bc they couldnt stop Kirk. I would start Salmons over Deng easy. Dont anyone say that Salmons should start for Gordon. Gordon has outplayed Deng & Hinrich this year, even since his rookie year, he deserves that spot. I wish we could trade Deng.
What was Vinny doing calling those timeouts last night with a minute left in the game.
Thabo plz develope a jump shot...
Salmons should start for Gordon, as should Sefalosha and Hinrich.
ANYBODY but Gordon getting starter's minutes...
I'm sure a lot of you are eating crow now that you can see the NADA PLAN, which was to simply get rid of Hughes, Gooden and Gordon, is 2/3 of the way there!
The release of Gordon would upgrade this squad to that of a middle playoff team.
Nada Surf

B M Goldwater A F Range, AZ

#12 Feb 19, 2009
LOLR wrote:
Deng is a good player. He had a good run a few weeks ago. I think he bulked up over the summer to try and help fill the low post scoring needs of the team (and legitimize his new contract) but that's just not his game. He's best as a slasher and spot-up jumpshooter and the extra weight has slowed him down while not effecting his post game at all.
He needs his role to be better defined (coaching issue) and to come back leaned and quicker next year. He's got a style that will blend well with Rose.
I think Salmons should start over Gordon. Salmon's history has shown he plays much better as a starter and everyone under the sun knows Gordon is a better 6th man - it's just a matter of him accepting that role (and the subsequent drop in salary expectations).
Hey Tif - if Larry gets traded to NY will you follow him and stop posting here?(one can hope!)
I never was Deng's biggest fan and it seemed that only myself and Bernstein of the SCORE ever said anything other than positive about him a few years back...
I do, however, think he's a quality player but nowhere near what the Bulls thought he was. Quality players won't succeed in this dysfunctional system that features VDN as a coach figuring his way and Gordon doing whatever he wants on the offensive end while everyone stands around and watches him...
It was also more clear than ever to me last nite that Rose is one of the least effective No.1 selections in history...
The thinking here is since Tiffany posts on several different team sites and clearly has no life or job, she won't be leaving here.

Here to help
Nada
Scott

Lemont, IL

#13 Feb 19, 2009
Nada Surf wrote:
<quoted text>Salmons should start for Gordon, as should Sefalosha and Hinrich.
ANYBODY but Gordon getting starter's minutes...
I'm sure a lot of you are eating crow now that you can see the NADA PLAN, which was to simply get rid of Hughes, Gooden and Gordon, is 2/3 of the way there!

The release of Gordon would upgrade this squad to that of a middle playoff team.
Hughes is still with the team unless you have new information that you want to provide.
Scott

Lemont, IL

#14 Feb 19, 2009
Nada Surf wrote:
<quoted text>It was also more clear than ever to me last nite that Rose is one of the least effective No.1 selections in history...

Nada
Nada, I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but then you make a statement like this and lose all credibility. Here is a list of the number one draft picks over the past twenty some years.

Andrea Bargnani
Andrew Bogut
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Yao Ming
Kwame Brown
Kenyon Martin
Elton Brand
Michael Olowokandi
Tim Duncan
Allen Iverson
Joe Smith
Glenn Robinson
Chris Webber
Shaquille O'Neal
Larry Johnson
Derrick Coleman
Pervis Ellison
Danny Manning

There are quite a few great players on this list, but at least 7-8 mediocre to dud picks. I would take Rose as a rookie over anything Manning, Ellison, Smith, Robinson, Olowakandi, Brown and Bogut and Bargnani did in their careers.
Nada Surf

B M Goldwater A F Range, AZ

#15 Feb 19, 2009
Scott wrote:
<quoted text>
Hughes is still with the team unless you have new information that you want to provide.
Do you really think I don't know that Varry Hughes-less is with the team?
You realize I mean that they have silenced him.
Do you actually think they can trade him?
Who would want him?
Nada Surf

B M Goldwater A F Range, AZ

#16 Feb 19, 2009
Scott wrote:
<quoted text>
Nada, I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but then you make a statement like this and lose all credibility. Here is a list of the number one draft picks over the past twenty some years.
Andrea Bargnani
Andrew Bogut
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Yao Ming
Kwame Brown
Kenyon Martin
Elton Brand
Michael Olowokandi
Tim Duncan
Allen Iverson
Joe Smith
Glenn Robinson
Chris Webber
Shaquille O'Neal
Larry Johnson
Derrick Coleman
Pervis Ellison
Danny Manning
There are quite a few great players on this list, but at least 7-8 mediocre to dud picks. I would take Rose as a rookie over anything Manning, Ellison, Smith, Robinson, Olowakandi, Brown and Bogut and Bargnani did in their careers.
LIke many on here, you're probably not intelligent enough to see that you've just made my point for me.

Hang in there
Nada
Stratmaster

Fairport, NY

#17 Feb 19, 2009
Nada Surf wrote:
<quoted text>Finally, a quality post out of Ill/Central Mark.
I knew my working with you would eventually pay off.
Your thanks accepted
Nada
well... except for the fact that the team hasn't had any real problem putting up points. The problem is the Bulls can't defend, and I don't see this trade maiing a difference on the defensive end. Kind of like trading for another power hitter when you have the worst pitching in the league, don't you think?
I'll go ahead and get my 2 cents worth in on the guard situation. Rose and Hinrich as starters (somebody has to play defense). Either Gordon or Salmon (preferably with some herbs and butter) off the bench, with the other going to anyone who will take him before 2:00 p.m.
Scott

Lemont, IL

#18 Feb 19, 2009
Nada Surf wrote:
<quoted text>LIke many on here, you're probably not intelligent enough to see that you've just made my point for me.
Hang in there
Nada
How did I make your point for you? The list shows that roughly 40% of number one picks don't live up to their expectations. Rose so far has, albeit with a small sample size. My point is that it's absurd for you to declare him a bust when he has played all of 2/3rd of one season, and has over that time become the leading candidate for ROY. Is he going to win an MVP award in the next couple of years, that is doubtful, but I can see him being a perennial All Star player.
Nada Surf

B M Goldwater A F Range, AZ

#19 Feb 19, 2009
It would be NICE if the Bulls could deal Gordon today!
They just dealt Hughes-less.
OHH GREAT

Chicago, IL

#20 Feb 19, 2009
Nada Surf wrote:
It would be NICE if the Bulls could deal Gordon today!
They just dealt Hughes-less.
I drove up to the game last nite in milwaukee and there is definatly something Going on with Gordon and delnegro. During each timeout and whenever Ben would get pulled from the game, he would sit at the end of the bench with a towel over his head as far away from Vinny as possible. A few times he didnt even get involved in the huddles. Pete myers communicated With B.G all nite. not once did i see vinny pat him or come near him. Maybe a change of Scenerio would be best for Ben.
Also, you dont realize how horrible VDN is until you see him live in action. That guy just doesnt have a clue. What was up with all those end of game timeouts?

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