Kobe to Ramp Up Trade Request?

Kobe to Ramp Up Trade Request?

There are 52 comments on the HOOPSWORLD.com story from Aug 2, 2007, titled Kobe to Ramp Up Trade Request?. In it, HOOPSWORLD.com reports that:

“I just told [Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak] this summer's about getting us to an elite level, doing whatever it takes to make it happen.”

Could Kevin Garnett's potential move to Boston affect the Los Angeles Lakers? According to a source who has spoken to Newsday's Ken Berger, Kobe Bryant will now push harder for a trade because yet another ... via HOOPSWORLD.com

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Bill

United States

#1 Aug 2, 2007
Kobe may know basketball, but he's not the sharpest knife in the kitchen. If he was smart, he'd would have never mentioned Shaqs name while being investigated for rape. Next, he should have hired a hooker since it's cheaper than legal costs and public scorn. So Kobe's needs to focus on his play keep his mouth shut and opt out in two years. Look at Labron James, he took the CAVs to the finals, so a one star team can make it to the finals. It can happen here in LA, but injuries are always going to short change any team. If Kobe want out of LA, let him go and lets encourge his wife to leave him and get everything. Kobe's not a california native and we don't need his kind.
Showtime

United States

#2 Aug 2, 2007
Bill wrote:
Kobe may know basketball, but he's not the sharpest knife in the kitchen. If he was smart, he'd would have never mentioned Shaqs name while being investigated for rape. Next, he should have hired a hooker since it's cheaper than legal costs and public scorn. So Kobe's needs to focus on his play keep his mouth shut and opt out in two years. Look at Labron James, he took the CAVs to the finals, so a one star team can make it to the finals. It can happen here in LA, but injuries are always going to short change any team. If Kobe want out of LA, let him go and lets encourge his wife to leave him and get everything. Kobe's not a california native and we don't need his kind.
For right now its just speculation that kobe is gonna do that, because the media just feeds on negativity so they are already anticipating the worst, and kobe may have been caught because this lady blew the horn for the money she does not convince me to be a rape victim, and alot of nba players cheat on their wives, im not saying its a good thing but thats the sad reality. I give lebron some props but lets get real he didnt face great teams at all, the wizards were banged up missing butler and arenas, the nets are not that good and their really old, the pistons I do give them credit for beating but they are no longer a great team, and the east is so much easier than the west, if you look at the west you have to have a couple of stars to make it to the finals.
jon

United States

#3 Aug 3, 2007
stinkcheck blew another one, bring back west
Cliff

Santa Ana, CA

#4 Aug 3, 2007
I am tired of the Lakers not doing anything in the off season. Kupcake needs to go for sure.
DunDeal

Houston, TX

#5 Aug 6, 2007
First, dont be concerned about someones personal life. If someone checked into your life with a microscope, then things would look a little different too on your end. Second, if the greatest B-Ball player since his air-ness wants help, then give it to him. The only reason Lebron made the finals, is due to a weak eastern conference that was without Agent Zero and C butler along with other players out due to injury. The east wasn't even important until BEANTOWN got KG and Ray Allen. Give the man some help and lets get back to Showtime!
Showtime

United States

#6 Aug 6, 2007
DunDeal wrote:
First, dont be concerned about someones personal life. If someone checked into your life with a microscope, then things would look a little different too on your end. Second, if the greatest B-Ball player since his air-ness wants help, then give it to him. The only reason Lebron made the finals, is due to a weak eastern conference that was without Agent Zero and C butler along with other players out due to injury. The east wasn't even important until BEANTOWN got KG and Ray Allen. Give the man some help and lets get back to Showtime!
Absolutely I agree with you, I give lebron credit but come on look the teams he went through as you pointed out a banged up wizards team, an old nets team, and a pistons team thats just not the same, I been saying that since the beginning. yup I also agree kobe sure needs help the west is nothing to laugh at.
Kobe is 1

Preston, Australia

#7 Aug 6, 2007
the west is where the ballerz are at...get JO dammit!!! we get him, we can compete with any team in the west. ANY!
Michael Yu

Mandaue, Philippines

#8 Aug 8, 2007
I think bynum and odom for o'neal is a fair deal. Odom isn't getting any younger and bynum is still a prospect. Adding o'neal to the laker lineup will automatically guarantee them a conference finals appearance.
Scott

San Clemente, CA

#9 Aug 8, 2007
Odom's statistics are pretty comparable to O'neill's, so I don't see what the big deal would be in this trade. Both these guys can score and rebound. The net result of this trade would only be a marginal improvement at best. The Lakers would be better off to trade Bynum and any combination of their other players for a 3rd scoring threat that can also defend.
joe

Valencia, CA

#10 Aug 9, 2007
I completely disagree with you. You give up your 2nd captain AND your best prospect, you're left with a WEAK bench. Bynum has proven that he can change shots and those are stats you don't see on paper. Look at the bench without Bynum? No team has ever won a championship with a weak ass bench. You name me one and I'll trade Kobe for JO... ok, that was a joke.
Michael Yu wrote:
I think bynum and odom for o'neal is a fair deal. Odom isn't getting any younger and bynum is still a prospect. Adding o'neal to the laker lineup will automatically guarantee them a conference finals appearance.
joe

Valencia, CA

#11 Aug 9, 2007
Lamar is not an inside presence, O'neal is. They are completely different players. Teams will have to triple team Kobe and double team JO. Lamar never gets doubled team. There are things O'neal does much better than Lamar on the floor that are not seen in paper. Lamar is a great player, but not the inside presence the Lakers need.
Scott wrote:
Odom's statistics are pretty comparable to O'neill's, so I don't see what the big deal would be in this trade. Both these guys can score and rebound. The net result of this trade would only be a marginal improvement at best. The Lakers would be better off to trade Bynum and any combination of their other players for a 3rd scoring threat that can also defend.
Scott

Mission Viejo, CA

#12 Aug 9, 2007
Joe,
I agree that O'Neil is more of an inside presence but I think that the team would be stronger by keeping Odom and trading some of their up and coming players for a 3rd proven performer. If they trade Odom for O'Neill they are still not at an elite level in the remaining 3 positions. It would seem that they could get a strong 3rd player by trading Bynum, Farmar or Crittendon, Radmonovic or Brown, and perhaps a future draft choice. They would be ideal bunch for a rebuilding team.
lakers355s

San Clemente, CA

#13 Aug 10, 2007
Scott wrote:
Joe,
I agree that O'Neil is more of an inside presence but I think that the team would be stronger by keeping Odom and trading some of their up and coming players for a 3rd proven performer. If they trade Odom for O'Neill they are still not at an elite level in the remaining 3 positions. It would seem that they could get a strong 3rd player by trading Bynum, Farmar or Crittendon, Radmonovic or Brown, and perhaps a future draft choice. They would be ideal bunch for a rebuilding team.
sad to say because i have been a laker fan for a long time, but ANY team with odom on it will NOT be at an elite level. he just isn't that good! stop overrating his abilities. odom needs to go.
Kobe is 1

Preston, Australia

#14 Aug 10, 2007
lakers355s wrote:
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sad to say because i have been a laker fan for a long time, but ANY team with odom on it will NOT be at an elite level. he just isn't that good! stop overrating his abilities. odom needs to go.
ahh c'mon bro, odom is a quality player man, tru every team he has been on hasnt been elite, but his talant and skillz are amazing, i really think hes another magic johnson dude. u kno my stance on him man, and i kno how u feel so thats kool. but i dont think hes overated. the same how i dont think JO is overrated like a lot of these other guyz believe. i kno the east is weak, but that doesnt mean LeBron sux or Wade isnt any good, or that Pierce is a bad player, or that Arenas has no idea hot to play. JO is one of the best players in the league. and he wud be valuable for us out west.
Showtime

United States

#15 Aug 10, 2007
Kobe is 1 wrote:
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ahh c'mon bro, odom is a quality player man, tru every team he has been on hasnt been elite, but his talant and skillz are amazing, i really think hes another magic johnson dude. u kno my stance on him man, and i kno how u feel so thats kool. but i dont think hes overated. the same how i dont think JO is overrated like a lot of these other guyz believe. i kno the east is weak, but that doesnt mean LeBron sux or Wade isnt any good, or that Pierce is a bad player, or that Arenas has no idea hot to play. JO is one of the best players in the league. and he wud be valuable for us out west.
I dont think 355 is saying hes a bad player I think what hes saying is as long as odom is one of the leaders on this team it will never be good enough to contend, I feel that way too odom must be the 3rd option unless odom takes it upon himself and tries to score at will, and sorry mate but no way is odom magic johnson magic got those triple doubles he didnt end it with being short by one rebound or one assist, magics the man to me, odom has a special ability kinda like magic I will give you that but no way hes magic johnson. Hey I like odom too, but he has not proven he can help lead this team except in the playoffs I was impressed, can odom play like that every night I really wish he would come out like that then he would prove me wrong.
oak warriors

Lucerne, CA

#16 Aug 10, 2007
I think it's really funny how it's everybodys fault but kobe's. Quit making excusses for kobe.He needs to take responsibilty for his own actions.It takes a team effort to win a championship.The lakers just don't have that mentalaty right now.Thet have a lot of growing to do since daddy left.( Shaq Deisel)Go warriors
lakers355s

San Clemente, CA

#17 Aug 10, 2007
Kobe is 1 wrote:
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ahh c'mon bro, odom is a quality player man, tru every team he has been on hasnt been elite, but his talant and skillz are amazing, i really think hes another magic johnson dude. u kno my stance on him man, and i kno how u feel so thats kool. but i dont think hes overated. the same how i dont think JO is overrated like a lot of these other guyz believe. i kno the east is weak, but that doesnt mean LeBron sux or Wade isnt any good, or that Pierce is a bad player, or that Arenas has no idea hot to play. JO is one of the best players in the league. and he wud be valuable for us out west.
i agree with you 100% that there are ballers all over the nba. and yes, JO would do very well in the purple and gold.
as far as lamar goes, showtime said it well. there is no doubt that odom's skillset is extraordinary. he does certain things very well, i still stand in awe when i see him handle the rock as well as he does for a guy his size. but, he hasn't accomplished anything in his career. that is why i feel lakers fans overrate him- because it's true he's a freak with many skills, but if he can't put them to use on a consistent basis, then it's all for show. speaking of show, as he mentioned, he should not, nor ever be, a second option on any team because he just lacks the aggressiveness and consistency. he's had the opportunity to play with the best player in the league the past three seasons and hasn't shown me enough for him to deserve to stay at the role of second option. 3rd go-to guy would be more fitting. but, i believe andrew would fill that role better in the near future.

you may be surprised to read that i used to defend odom to the core from my other lakers buddies, but i grew tired of it. i really used to think he was a badass player, but he's showed me nothing for far too long.
lakers355s

San Clemente, CA

#18 Aug 10, 2007
oak warriors wrote:
I think it's really funny how it's everybodys fault but kobe's. Quit making excusses for kobe.He needs to take responsibilty for his own actions.It takes a team effort to win a championship.The lakers just don't have that mentalaty right now.Thet have a lot of growing to do since daddy left.( Shaq Deisel)Go warriors
i'm glad to see you're laughing at our suffering.
we're not saying kobe isn't part of the blame. we all know he needs to be a better facilitator/team player. but, he needs decent players around him to do so. hopefully he's learning that and he'll adjust his leadership role accordingly. he's got many good years left to keep learning.
Showtime

United States

#19 Aug 10, 2007
oak warriors wrote:
I think it's really funny how it's everybodys fault but kobe's. Quit making excusses for kobe.He needs to take responsibilty for his own actions.It takes a team effort to win a championship.The lakers just don't have that mentalaty right now.Thet have a lot of growing to do since daddy left.( Shaq Deisel)Go warriors
so which one is it, is it kobes fault or is it the teams fault? I am blaming the team because kobe brings it every night, cant say the same for his teammates, with the exception of ronny turiaf and and now fish hopefully will bring a new attitude, but you cant blame kobe for this, I blame phil jackson more than I do kobe, its not kobes job to make sure these guys come out with effort.
LMS

Santa Cruz, CA

#20 Aug 11, 2007
Showtime wrote:
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so which one is it, is it kobes fault or is it the teams fault? I am blaming the team because kobe brings it every night, cant say the same for his teammates, with the exception of ronny turiaf and and now fish hopefully will bring a new attitude, but you cant blame kobe for this, I blame phil jackson more than I do kobe, its not kobes job to make sure these guys come out with effort.
Part of being a leader is to make sure your teamates come out with effort. For example, Steve Nash and Duncan. Kobe is a one man team who only brings it on the court, What about off the court? Team chemistry involves on and off the court. Kobe never gets involve in any off the court activity with his teamates. Even Magic would like him to be more involve and initiative. But we all know from an interview, he doesn't believe in that stuff. Kobe is a good player, but he's a poor leader.

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