Grant Hill decides it's greener in th...

Grant Hill decides it's greener in the desert -- OrlandoSentine...

There are 62 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Jul 6, 2007, titled Grant Hill decides it's greener in the desert -- OrlandoSentine.... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

For one of the few times in his star-crossed career in Orlando, Grant Hill said he felt the timing was right -- for a change.

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John O

Ocala, FL

#1 Jul 6, 2007
They should've traded him and his expiring contract back in February when they had the chance. He had $16.9 million value to us then. Now he leaves us with nothing. Otis wanted to show his loyalty and this is how Grant repays that loyalty.
Now we stand to lose Darko for nothing too. Otis don't lose Darko too!
Earlier this week I was excited about the Lewis news, now I'm just upset.
orl native

Sanford, FL

#2 Jul 6, 2007
Cant say I didnt see this one coming back in Feb,agree with John O. shouldve beat him to the punch and traded him then we he still had value to the magic. He's a good guy but the team played better to end the season in 06 when he was out. They never really jelled when he was a part of the core unit for some reason. It was time for the Magic to move on and I'm glad Hill made the correct decision for everyone, but still can't help feeling he owed the organization some how for all the heartache and $$$. He was never the guy to take over a game and win it for you anyway, think back to his prime in Detroit, great during the season but not in the playoffs. Hate to say it but odds are he breaks down before the all-star break next year. Good luck Grant and thanks for leaving, seriously.
O-Town-Tom

Orlando, FL

#3 Jul 6, 2007
There is NO heart in any NBA players, nor is there ANY loyalty to their teams. It is all about the "Bling".
Grant Hill has just proven he is no different than the rest. Shame on us for thinking he was.
That is why the NBA finals ratings this year were the lowest in 20 years.
And I am to the point where I am beginning to feel I can do better things with my time than watch these spoiled brats play a game.
Oh, and when will owners finally realize that because you PLAYED the game you can be a successful General Manager???
big vern

United States

#4 Jul 6, 2007
John O wrote:
They should've traded him and his expiring contract back in February when they had the chance. He had $16.9 million value to us then. Now he leaves us with nothing. Otis wanted to show his loyalty and this is how Grant repays that loyalty.
Now we stand to lose Darko for nothing too. Otis don't lose Darko too!
Earlier this week I was excited about the Lewis news, now I'm just upset.
that is a very good point, otis smith seems to be blind or stupid. thinking that the players are as loyal or dumm as he is...
orl native

Sanford, FL

#5 Jul 6, 2007
Agreed Tom, Just because your 6'8" doesnt make you a good GM. Otis better pull a SG out of his hat and a decent Big to fill these gaps. I like the [email protected] he's shown but not at the expense of losing Darko. You can only blame so much on the agent, I have to deal with @**h0** everyday with a smile on my face, I mean learn some negotiating skills, please.
Billy Sullivan

Apopka, FL

#6 Jul 6, 2007
That's probably one of the reasons Billy Donovan didn't take the coaching job in the NBA with the Magic. There is no loyality on either side mgmt. or players it's all about money and winning at no cost
MagicFanattic

Winter Haven, FL

#7 Jul 6, 2007
As far as i'm concerned Grant Hiill just lost the only 2 things he ever showed with the Magic, character and respect. He just became another lowlife NBA sellout to all the fans that supported him undyingly though all his injury filled seasons here. And now he has just jinxed Steve Nash from getting a title while he's in Phoenix. My prediction, Phoenix doesnt even make the finals with Grant and he goes down mid season with a career ending injury..never to missing the playoffs of course. Sorry Grant,no character,no resoect,no playoffs,no ring,no Hall of Fame,not even your jersey hanging in the rafters of any team you played for. Thanks for NOTHING!!!
mikebloms

United States

#8 Jul 6, 2007
Yeah Hill words of a COWARD that Chooses the easy way out instead of laying in the bed you made. I wish every time a situation didnt work out for me i could just run away too. Your a looser GHILL a greedy one at that. The magic have a better shot of makin out of the east then the Suns do at makin it out of the west next year. think the Mavs wont be ready next year think again think the warriors wont be much improved think again hill oh yeah how bout them Spurs they aint goin nowhere. See ya Hill be ready for some booos when you show up here again.
Dan George

Orlando, FL

#9 Jul 6, 2007
I can't believe it. I actually agree with the whole lot of you. Hill took 93 million and buried us in the bottom of the league for 7 long years. He contibuted nothing and now that he has the chance for a little pay-back he proves he is no better than any other con-artist, huckster and cheap-shot artist in the NBA -which should stand for Never Believe in Anyone!
Scott

Plano, TX

#10 Jul 6, 2007
Good luck Grant, I hope Phoenix does wiin next year with you.

You are a 3, not a 2. Brian Hill didn't know it, most thnking people do get it..

JJ will finally get underway this year. The next year we could use a good back up for Rashard in the finals against Phoenix.
CYA

Altamonte Springs, FL

#11 Jul 6, 2007
Don't let the door hitt you a$$ on your way out.
buckeye9571

Winter Springs, FL

#12 Jul 6, 2007
Thank you Grant Hill..For nothing.. But the funny part of this debacle is that the magic organization has no one to blame but themselves. This may be the worst sports franchise ever. Here I thought the Otis Smith hiring was a good thing.. Wrong !! WE go out and sign Rashard Lewis who is a nice player and all, but not the answer completely. He is a spotty outside shooter, sound familiar?See Hedo Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson, Pat Garrity. Im not quite sure how he will help Dwight Howard.. Then to screw Darko Milicic who still has tremendous upside for a 21 year old.. Why am I not shocked?? Throw in The worst owner in sports and you have a recipe for mediocrity... Hello Kansas City!!!! Good Bye Orlando...
buckeye9571

Winter Springs, FL

#13 Jul 6, 2007
Dan George wrote:
I can't believe it. I actually agree with the whole lot of you. Hill took 93 million and buried us in the bottom of the league for 7 long years. He contibuted nothing and now that he has the chance for a little pay-back he proves he is no better than any other con-artist, huckster and cheap-shot artist in the NBA -which should stand for Never Believe in Anyone!
lets not all pile on Grant.. this organization has been doomed from the beginning.. A greedy owner a cluless general manager and many bad decisions... Grant Hill wasnt the onewho offered the lucrative contract. Magic management did. The dsame one who let shaq, tracy,ben wallace, chauncy billips, I mean I could go on for ever.. The we hire a moron in Brian Hill, not once but twice. Next season now rides on a decent player in rashard lewis, a turnover machine in jameer nelson, a very streaky hedo, and the usual cast of subpar bench players. All set up by our wonderful gm smith and the idiot owner rich devos.. Dont blame Grant Hill for our downfall, put the blame where it squarly belongs , THE ORLANDO MAGIC ORGANIZATION>>>
mikebloms

United States

#14 Jul 6, 2007
buckeye9571 wrote:
Thank you Grant Hill..For nothing.. But the funny part of this debacle is that the magic organization has no one to blame but themselves. This may be the worst sports franchise ever. Here I thought the Otis Smith hiring was a good thing.. Wrong !! WE go out and sign Rashard Lewis who is a nice player and all, but not the answer completely. He is a spotty outside shooter, sound familiar?See Hedo Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson, Pat Garrity. Im not quite sure how he will help Dwight Howard.. Then to screw Darko Milicic who still has tremendous upside for a 21 year old.. Why am I not shocked?? Throw in The worst owner in sports and you have a recipe for mediocrity... Hello Kansas City!!!! Good Bye Orlando...
I get so sick of people blaming this all on the Magic. So we signed him on crutches but how would we have known that he was gonna have 5 surgeries. Plus its not the magics fault that players dont care about the organizations they play for as long as they are paid. Also its not Smiths fault that Darko thinks he should be over paid for his services i do want him and all but Darko needs to work a little harder and really prove his worth before he gets a mega deal. Do i admit that the management needs a little help yes but you cant say that they have not tried their best to put a quality product on the floor sometimes it just takes a little luck to win we havent had it. Every one thats in the magics organization are great people the whole Devos family are wonderful and God Bless them for bringing us the Magic. Otis is a good GM you just havent given him a chance he will make it right in the end.
orl native

Sanford, FL

#15 Jul 6, 2007
Wouldnt expect anything else from a buckeye. If you are a Magic fan you have a funny way of showing your support to the organization, this one's on GHill. Darko's a bum, the magic are better off without him, Heart of a champion? yeah right. He's a space case. Oh yeah how's it feel to get spanked in 2 national championships in the same scholastic year! ha ha Go GATORS!

Since: Jun 07

New York, NY

#16 Jul 6, 2007
well grant left, half of us expected that one, otis is a so/so GM, it's the opposite problem we had with gabriel. otis has player experience, and a good basketball mind, he knows a 6'10 small forward with an outside shot is an amazing prospect, but shouldn't have signed him for so much, otis is lacking the business sense necessary to pull off the blockbuster signs or trades. gabriel could wheel and deal like you wouldn't believe, but he was just hired to listen to his boss, and had no basketball sense, other than the obvious superstar draft pics and signings, he couldn't see potential in ball players like b wallace, and maggette. think about all the non obvious draft picks gabriel took over his magic career, the second round pics mostly, all of those guys look like they would drive my grandmother to church on sunday before they had enough <insert your word here>s to drive to the rim with authority. point being we should have gotten otis and gabriel to share the gm spot, and tell the owners, and the management, which are probably related to the owner somehow, to keep their nose out of the actual basketball part of the magic, and stick to selling shirts. i mean have you seen the commercials that the magic put out? we have full sail and ucf's whole filmaking school out there, and the best commercials they can come up looks like something a B grade porn star director comes up with on the fly. then let some of the dancers show some skin, they dress like they're going to dance at a church recital afterwards, and play some music that isn't "safe," not all rap music will turn children into drug using, gun toating criminals, have you ever even asked the players what they'd like to hear over the crappy speakers at the amway arena? the ownership is too conservative, i wish they'd sell the team to someone who will keep them in orlando, and has a good sense of what the nba requires in this day and age.
Tmacin

Lincolnshire, IL

#17 Jul 6, 2007
Umm....I dont know about you Guys, but I'm kinda Worried HERE!....I mean Losing GHILL is kinda NOT COOL At ALL!! Forget all the UNFAIR/FAIR BS that happened with GHILL but bottom line....We reaaaaaaaaallly need Darko back...I mean come July 11 and we have RASHARD but lose Darko/Hill...ummm I dont know about you guys but thats a serious gap to feel. Ghill Gave solid numbers and Darko was good [not great] defensively. Umm Losing both would pretty much give us sort of the same team that we had last year with more offense but less defense or worse. UNLESS...unless...Dooling/JJ/A riza blow everybody away and have a Solid year OR OTIS makes some additional moves. But this dont look good unless you guys know something I dont!:-( Any rumors out there other than corncrap crying????
where did the magic go

Portland, OR

#18 Jul 6, 2007
I do not blame Hill for taking our 93 million dollar contract. I blame the idiots that gave it to him while he was crutches. No contingency clause?

But, he could have retired several times during those seven years when things were obviously bad to:

A. give the magic a chance to sign a healthy player
B. to really try to recuperate without the pressure of needing to play for the team.
or he even could have re-negotiated his contract.
All he did was take the money and smile. All of Orlando fell in love with his smile. Vander Tweebe said last summer that in retrospect, he would do it all over again and that Hill was one of the best guys he has ever met.He had no regrets.

Now the Magic are surprised? They expected him to resign!Vander Tweebe, you idiot!

And all of you Hill lovers also said "wait and see, he will return next year to the magic because he loves Orlando and is a stand up guy and feels he owes us".

Now he wants a ring. He wants to justify his career the only way a self indulgent person can, with personal glory. He doesn't want to help the team that paid for everything he has and everything his children will have.
Thanks for the paychecks and all of your support....idiots, I fooled you all.

Greed, greed, greed.

Finally feel taken?.... good!

Just like the Hill signing, Lewis is just a name for PR and ticket sales. His game is not what the magic need This is another over paid and crippling contract.

When will they learn. Never! Not with Vander Tweebe calling the shots. After all, this is just a hobby for the rich guy who married the team owner's daughter.
The only success we have ever had is because of a few ping pong balls and management even screwed that up.

Till Vander Tweebe is out, We will never be a winning franchise.

Bye Bye Hill, you came, you laughed!
you left! wise up Orlando....?
polishdad

Bethpage, NY

#19 Jul 6, 2007
But what none of us really know for sure is what the Magic management told Grant Hill. I'm sure that neither Hill or Smith are going to say.
Matt Anderson

Lincoln, NE

#21 Jul 6, 2007
Brian Schmitz you dont follow the NBA much do you? Jumaine Jones/Kurt Thomas had a comnined 8 starts for the Suns.

"Hill should be able to start at small forward for the Suns, who started Kurt Thomas and Jumaine Jones at the spot last season."

Jumaine Jones never started for the suns all year. He only saw action in about 10 games. His job was to keep the bench warm. Heck he didnt even see action in some of the blow out wins during garbage time.

Kurt Thomas started 8 regular season games for the suns.

Barbosa and Diaw got most of the starts. Hill would need to beat out Barbosa or Diaw for a starting spot.

wow glad Brian isnt covering NBA or writing for the AZ papers.

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