Shrinking Suns

Shrinking Suns

There are 3 comments on the ESPN story from May 17, 2007, titled Shrinking Suns. In it, ESPN reports that:

“Obviously it's a big blow. We're just going to have to fight as hard as we can.”

Marc Stein began writing for ESPN.com in 2000 and signed on full-time in 2002 to serve as the site's Senior NBA Writer. via ESPN

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CSB

Marcus Hook, PA

#1 May 17, 2007
Once again, the NBA has demonstrated how stupid it can be. Getting right to the point, the decision, by Stu Jackson, to suspend two of the Suns’ most important players, has quite likely delivered the Spurs into the semi-finals. His interpretation of the rules has rewarded the offending team for flagrant misconduct on the court. In his statement, Jackson said that he did not want to influence the outcome of the series. If he is sincere about that, then in mulling over his options, he should have begun from this basic stance: I will not influence the outcome of this series.
It is the slavish devotion to the letter, rather than the spirit of law, that so often results in unfair and (presumably) unintended consequences. Specifically, we fans are about to witness a severe punishment to the party that actually did nothing more than bristle at the disgusting and even dangerous treatment of one of its members. No Phoenix player delivered a blow. The San Antonio player delivered two. While the rules prescribe certain sanctions for any player leaving the bench, the fact is that Stoudemire and Diaw, the suspended Phoenix players, got nowhere near the altercation.
Stoudemire is one of the very best players in the league and Diaw, his would be replacement is a fine player and a critical part of the Phoenix team. Robert Horry, on the other hand, is a reserve who is not near the player he once was and will not be missed nearly as much as the other two. This outcome unquestionably, punishes the victim far more than it punishes the aggressor. This is unjust and it should not stand. While you are at it, Stu, why not suspend Nash for trying get in Horry’s face after he managed to pick himself up. After all: rules are rules.
The fact that a rule is a rule does not mean it is a good rule. This rule legislates against natural instinct. Defending one’s self or one’s own family, friends, fellow soldiers etc. is instinctive and natural. Further, it is taught from the cradle and is considered honorable. Why else do players continue to do it despite the rule and punishment? It cannot be helped. Horry’s actions, on the other hand, were petulant, at best. It could even be argued that his forearm shiver to the much smaller Nash was calculated. In either case, he is guilty of reckless disregard toward Nash’s physical well being and terribly poor sportsmanship. Yet, the odds are now in his favor. He is more likely to be playing in the next round than Nash is.
The punishment should never penalize the victim more than it does the aggressor, otherwise, the league has created a tactic that a loser can use to gain the advantage.
Proud Spurs Fan

United States

#2 May 17, 2007
CSB wrote:
Once again, the NBA has demonstrated how stupid it can be. Getting right to the point, the decision, by Stu Jackson, to suspend two of the Suns’ most important players, has quite likely delivered the Spurs into the semi-finals. His interpretation of the rules has rewarded the offending team for flagrant misconduct on the court. In his statement, Jackson said that he did not want to influence the outcome of the series. If he is sincere about that, then in mulling over his options, he should have begun from this basic stance: I will not influence the outcome of this series.
It is the slavish devotion to the letter, rather than the spirit of law, that so often results in unfair and (presumably) unintended consequences. Specifically, we fans are about to witness a severe punishment to the party that actually did nothing more than bristle at the disgusting and even dangerous treatment of one of its members. No Phoenix player delivered a blow. The San Antonio player delivered two. While the rules prescribe certain sanctions for any player leaving the bench, the fact is that Stoudemire and Diaw, the suspended Phoenix players, got nowhere near the altercation.
Stoudemire is one of the very best players in the league and Diaw, his would be replacement is a fine player and a critical part of the Phoenix team. Robert Horry, on the other hand, is a reserve who is not near the player he once was and will not be missed nearly as much as the other two. This outcome unquestionably, punishes the victim far more than it punishes the aggressor. This is unjust and it should not stand. While you are at it, Stu, why not suspend Nash for trying get in Horry’s face after he managed to pick himself up. After all: rules are rules.
The fact that a rule is a rule does not mean it is a good rule. This rule legislates against natural instinct. Defending one’s self or one’s own family, friends, fellow soldiers etc. is instinctive and natural. Further, it is taught from the cradle and is considered honorable. Why else do players continue to do it despite the rule and punishment? It cannot be helped. Horry’s actions, on the other hand, were petulant, at best. It could even be argued that his forearm shiver to the much smaller Nash was calculated. In either case, he is guilty of reckless disregard toward Nash’s physical well being and terribly poor sportsmanship. Yet, the odds are now in his favor. He is more likely to be playing in the next round than Nash is.
The punishment should never penalize the victim more than it does the aggressor, otherwise, the league has created a tactic that a loser can use to gain the advantage.
If what your saying is that just because they are in the conference semi finals, and they are 2 key players, their total neglect for the rules and procedures of the NBA should be over looked that is crazy. They were not getting up to defend their team-mate they were charging at Horry in hopes of a scuffle. Robert Horry delivered the hip check and then turned around and walked off, if the Suns had left it at that I'm sure the NBA would not have as much conflict on the table today. The rules are not rules that were put in affect yesterday or even last month.

HELLO, YALL HAVE ALL LOST YOUR MINDS! LIKE I SAID IN OTHER BLOGS, THE SPURS HAVE BEEN THE NICE GUYS ALL THE WAY BACK TO GEORGE GERVIN & DAVID ROBINSON DAYS, AND IT IS ABOUT TIME THEY STOOD UP FOR THEMSELFS.

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Since: Apr 07

DC

#3 May 17, 2007
Proud Spurs Fan wrote:
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If what your saying is that just because they are in the conference semi finals, and they are 2 key players, their total neglect for the rules and procedures of the NBA should be over looked that is crazy. They were not getting up to defend their team-mate they were charging at Horry in hopes of a scuffle. Robert Horry delivered the hip check and then turned around and walked off, if the Suns had left it at that I'm sure the NBA would not have as much conflict on the table today. The rules are not rules that were put in affect yesterday or even last month.
HELLO, YALL HAVE ALL LOST YOUR MINDS! LIKE I SAID IN OTHER BLOGS, THE SPURS HAVE BEEN THE NICE GUYS ALL THE WAY BACK TO GEORGE GERVIN & DAVID ROBINSON DAYS, AND IT IS ABOUT TIME THEY STOOD UP FOR THEMSELFS.
YOU MUST BE A SPIN DOCTOR! THE WAY YOU SUM UP THIS WHOLE SITUATION HAS YOUR BELOVED SPURS AND THE NBA SMELLING LIKE ROSES! SO NOW STAT AND DIAW WERE "CHARGING AT HORRY WITH THE INTENT TO HARM AND MAIM" IS WHAT YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING. HORRY BODY-BLOCKED NASH BECAUSE IT WAS TIME FOR THE SPURS TO "STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES (NOTICE THE SPELLING, FOOL)." I DIDN'T KNOW L'IL STEVIE WAS SO MENACING, SO INTIMIDATING, THAT HE DESERVED SUCH TREATMENT! FOR THE RECORD, DIAW'S SOFT, FRENCH ASS PROBABLY HAS NEVER BEEN IN A FIGHT IN HIS LIFE, SO I'M PRETTY DAMN CONFIDENT HE DIDN'T "CHARGE" THE FLOOR TO GET TO HORRY! HE, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE SUNS' BENCH, WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR LEADER, THAT'S IT. NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN TIMMY AND "DIRTY BRUCE" WERE ON THE COURT WHEN ELSON WAS UNDERCUT AFTER THAT DUNK IN THE 2ND QUARTER, BUT SINCE THESE ARE "STERN'S BUTTBOYS" THEY AREN'T HELD TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW. WHAT A CROCK OF SHYT! I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE SAN ANTONIO STERNS LAST WIN OF THE SEASON BECAUSE MY SUNS PLAN ON SMACKING YOU BYTCHES RIGHT INTO THE OFFSEASON!

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