Magic try another look, defeat Nets at home

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Late in the game, 6 foot-10 Hedo Turkoglu whipped a pass to 6-11 Dwight Howard as Howard broke down the lane, defended by New Jersey Nets guard Jarvis Hayes.
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Feb 8, 2009
 
This game was a loss disguised by a win.

Horrible play on offense, and a bad shooting night by New Jersey. If Carter had played, the result may have been different. The fact of the matter is, our bench and PG situation is not going to cut it for the rest of the season like this.

When Otis Smith traded for Tyronn Lue later in the week, he basically said, "maybe next year." He claims that it's not possible to acquire an All-Star caliber player for an All-Star, and I don't think anyone expected him to. But quality teams make quality moves when the unexpected happens (see: Lakers Aquire Pau Gasol When Bynum is Out for the Year).

I mean, let's be serious. When you have SEVEN players whose contracts are coming off by the end of the year, that's very attractive to rebuilding teams who would be willing to give away somewhat valuable pieces to their team in hopes for securing a quality free agent.

How long can we afford to keep looking forward to next year, and make moves for this year? Maybe Danny Ainge can better help us with that answer.
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#3
Feb 8, 2009
 
Big win. They are still not clicking on offense but the effort on defense was much better. How bout those cavs? The magic sweep the Lakers and then they sweep boston and cleveland... interesting
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Feb 8, 2009
 
And the beat goes on .......... and the beat goes on .......... Magic win another game la de la de de .......... la de la de dah .......... Good game guys. Anti Magic crowd has to go hide again. 6-2 now with Jameer out. Oh guard the 3 point line, OK, here comes Howard, Its dunk time .......... 30 points 16 rebounds. Who was it that said Howard wasnt a very good center and couldnt carry a team?????????? Oh well, la de la de de .......... la de la de dah .......... and the beat goes on .......... and the beat goes on..........
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Feb 8, 2009
 
Hmm wrote:
This game was a loss disguised by a win.
Horrible play on offense, and a bad shooting night by New Jersey. If Carter had played, the result may have been different. The fact of the matter is, our bench and PG situation is not going to cut it for the rest of the season like this.
When Otis Smith traded for Tyronn Lue later in the week, he basically said, "maybe next year." He claims that it's not possible to acquire an All-Star caliber player for an All-Star, and I don't think anyone expected him to. But quality teams make quality moves when the unexpected happens (see: Lakers Aquire Pau Gasol When Bynum is Out for the Year).
I mean, let's be serious. When you have SEVEN players whose contracts are coming off by the end of the year, that's very attractive to rebuilding teams who would be willing to give away somewhat valuable pieces to their team in hopes for securing a quality free agent.
How long can we afford to keep looking forward to next year, and make moves for this year? Maybe Danny Ainge can better help us with that answer.
Is this a joke? Funny post. Magic jumped on them for a 14 point lead after the 1st quarter and cruised on in for a win. Why make changes on a team thats now 38-12 and clicking. We just got done knocking off 4 of the 5 division leaders in a 3 week period. Phoenix is having a fire sale, I am sure Otis will look into it. You impatient people hate a patient GM like Otis but that is what he is. Ainge was almost run out of town until his old pal McHale helped him out.
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Feb 8, 2009
 
nanningbob wrote:
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Is this a joke? Funny post. Magic jumped on them for a 14 point lead after the 1st quarter and cruised on in for a win. Why make changes on a team thats now 38-12 and clicking. We just got done knocking off 4 of the 5 division leaders in a 3 week period. Phoenix is having a fire sale, I am sure Otis will look into it. You impatient people hate a patient GM like Otis but that is what he is. Ainge was almost run out of town until his old pal McHale helped him out.
Exactly. And the lakers got Gasol for almost nothing. I think we will be alright, it will take a few games to get used to Nelson not being there. I think Pietrus can help more with scoring now that hes healthy and Turk will get better runnin the show.
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Feb 8, 2009
 
another win, I liked Lue's playing time... 2 minutes. Turk & Anthony did a decent job & will only improve as they adjust to the new responsibilities. I still cringe when I see Lue in a Magic uniform again, but I guess I need to accept it. At least he has lost the corn rows.

Go Magic.
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Feb 8, 2009
 
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Exactly. And the lakers got Gasol for almost nothing. I think we will be alright, it will take a few games to get used to Nelson not being there. I think Pietrus can help more with scoring now that hes healthy and Turk will get better runnin the show.
Also all those expiring contracts make room for us to resign Hedo also. If we lose Hedo we have room to get a major piece to replace him Right now I am all for keeping Hedo. We have a championship team. Just a tweak here and there but we have one. We just let it mature into one. What you dont want is to do what Phoenix did. They had a championship team and they traded it a way. They were the #1 team last year and down the drain it went. You take away that fight two years ago and they probably make the finals and had a good chance to win. You dont trade away a contender. They are going to regret those decisions for years. Now they cant get rid of the Shaq contract and are being forced into trading their best players so they can be financially feasible. The Magic have a championship team in place and contracts with its key players for the next 3-5 years. Hedo is the last one and Otis has made room to sign him. This idiot, the first post, wants us to use that room to get what would be a marginal player. Nope, we got the pieces. Maybe a tweak like a veteran scorer off the bench and another banger would help but the core of this team is rock solid. We have a gadzillion 3 point scorers, Lewis, Hedo, Lee, Nelson, Pietrus can all drive the lane and shoot medium jumpers, we have one of the best under the basket power games in the league. Lewis, Howard, Gortat can all post up underneath. Not much there to change. Even if we got a Gasol, where would we put him?? There is not more room for big stars. We have 3 all stars now and Hedo could be one too. Pietrus and Lee have the potential to become all stars. This team is loaded from top to bottom. JJ would probably get more minutes with another team. Boy if he ever learns to become a lightning scorer off the bench. The only thing left is the playoff experience. We have two years under our belt. This could be the breakout year to the finals. Dont know if we can beat Boston though without Jameer. We will find out.

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Feb 8, 2009
 
OK we can breath now.........
I was not really impress by our playing tonight but hey a win is a win.
Terrible 3 point shooting again,
Howard was big tonight and made up for
our weak offensive game in the second half, but he got to stick to a free throw routine because his performance at the charity strip stinks.
Turk and Miller are getting better at their point guard roles and only time will tell if this will work.
The Cavs and Boston loss tonight only puts us at 2 and half games out of first.....
Go Magic
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Feb 8, 2009
 
nanningbob wrote:
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Is this a joke? Funny post. Magic jumped on them for a 14 point lead after the 1st quarter and cruised on in for a win. Why make changes on a team thats now 38-12 and clicking. We just got done knocking off 4 of the 5 division leaders in a 3 week period. Phoenix is having a fire sale, I am sure Otis will look into it. You impatient people hate a patient GM like Otis but that is what he is. Ainge was almost run out of town until his old pal McHale helped him out.
How uneducated are you of our current situation? It's easy to talk out of your a-- but it takes a little more effort to speak facts. First thing's first, after we beat the divisions leaders on the road trip (with Nelson), we went 4-4 (lost 2-3 without Nelson) including losses to Dallas and Indiana.

We have one of the weakest benches in the NBA, which accounted for 19/101 of our overall points. Our PGs got a whopping 8 points. If you think that's going to get it done, then you must not be watching your local Lakers play basketball. I'm a huge Magic fan, but that doesn't mean I'm a moron either. I like the team, yet disagree with some of the moves. Picking up Tyronn Lue?..one of them. If you think Ainge made the move of the big 3 out of desperation of getting fired, then once again your ignorance and lack of knowledge shines through. You must forget that he made the trade for Kevin Durant for Ray Allen as well. Let's be real people. I would enjoy some facts, and not just ignorant and emotional posts.
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Feb 8, 2009
 
Well said naningbob. Using Battie and Gortat brings success. That has to be kept in coming games and in playoff time and then has a chance to beat Celtics. Good job team.
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Feb 8, 2009
 
Roberthenry wrote:
OK we can breath now.........
I was not really impress by our playing tonight but hey a win is a win.
Terrible 3 point shooting again,
Howard was big tonight and made up for
our weak offensive game in the second half, but he got to stick to a free throw routine because his performance at the charity strip stinks.
Turk and Miller are getting better at their point guard roles and only time will tell if this will work.
The Cavs and Boston loss tonight only puts us at 2 and half games out of first.....
Go Magic
Whos Miller?
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Also all those expiring contracts make room for us to resign Hedo also. If we lose Hedo we have room to get a major piece to replace him Right now I am all for keeping Hedo. We have a championship team. Just a tweak here and there but we have one. We just let it mature into one. What you dont want is to do what Phoenix did. They had a championship team and they traded it a way. They were the #1 team last year and down the drain it went. You take away that fight two years ago and they probably make the finals and had a good chance to win. You dont trade away a contender. They are going to regret those decisions for years. Now they cant get rid of the Shaq contract and are being forced into trading their best players so they can be financially feasible. The Magic have a championship team in place and contracts with its key players for the next 3-5 years. Hedo is the last one and Otis has made room to sign him. This idiot, the first post, wants us to use that room to get what would be a marginal player. Nope, we got the pieces. Maybe a tweak like a veteran scorer off the bench and another banger would help but the core of this team is rock solid. We have a gadzillion 3 point scorers, Lewis, Hedo, Lee, Nelson, Pietrus can all drive the lane and shoot medium jumpers, we have one of the best under the basket power games in the league. Lewis, Howard, Gortat can all post up underneath. Not much there to change. Even if we got a Gasol, where would we put him?? There is not more room for big stars. We have 3 all stars now and Hedo could be one too. Pietrus and Lee have the potential to become all stars. This team is loaded from top to bottom. JJ would probably get more minutes with another team. Boy if he ever learns to become a lightning scorer off the bench. The only thing left is the playoff experience. We have two years under our belt. This could be the breakout year to the finals. Dont know if we can beat Boston though without Jameer. We will find out.
If you think we will use seven expiring contracts to sign Hedo, you must be smoking some Micheal Phelps stuff. You really think our 09-10 roster will be 6-7 players deep?? And by using the Lakers' example, I was far from implying we should sign Gasol himself. It was a mere example of a trade being made to express the urgency of getting a ring even with a key player suffering a season-long injury, something we should consider doing. A AJ/Lue backcourt is far from matching up with Cleveland's, Boston's, and LA's.

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Feb 8, 2009
 
We can not we blind either at possible trades or free agents.
Imagine
Bush playing 4 along with Howard and Lewis back to his natural 3 position.
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Feb 8, 2009
 
Hmm wrote:
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If you think we will use seven expiring contracts to sign Hedo, you must be smoking some Micheal Phelps stuff. You really think our 09-10 roster will be 6-7 players deep?? And by using the Lakers' example, I was far from implying we should sign Gasol himself. It was a mere example of a trade being made to express the urgency of getting a ring even with a key player suffering a season-long injury, something we should consider doing. A AJ/Lue backcourt is far from matching up with Cleveland's, Boston's, and LA's.
He didnt mean all of the expiring contracts dummy, but a few of them will get it done. Plus none of those top teams have an elite point guard anyway so whats the difference. Dont try and knock someones intelligence when you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.

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Feb 8, 2009
 
Also I think that picking up any of those two losers point guards from New York or Indiana would have been a big mistake.
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Feb 8, 2009
 
Roberthenry wrote:
We can not we blind either at possible trades or free agents.
Imagine
Bush playing 4 along with Howard and Lewis back to his natural 3 position.
Lol, who is Bush? I think he was the president or running back in NFL.
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#18
Feb 8, 2009
 
There's nothing to celebrate about this win. Of course, as usual, bandwagoneers take this win like it's a playoff game even if the Magic were playing streetball. The game tonight was scary - it reminded me of the headless horseman in the movie "Sleepy Hollow." Magic played like there was no point guard out there on the floor. Johnson will only have his stellar nights against the Wizards and the Kings out there. Lue will pick his game up but not until we dip below the .600 mark. Sorry folks I don't think this team with its current roster can get us past the first round. Nope. The playoffs is no place for softies.

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Lol, who is Bush? I think he was the president or running back in NFL.
Ok smart guy Bosh
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Feb 8, 2009
 
"speak facts. First thing's first, after we beat the divisions leaders on the road trip (with Nelson), we went 4-4 (lost 2-3 without Nelson)"

Sure let's speak facts! The Magic are 6-1 without Nelson as the starter.

"our PGs got a whopping 8 points. If you think that's going to get it done"

Didn't Turk have 15pts and 8 assists? Didn't the Magic win big? I guess winning the game is not getting it done in your mind. I guess the Magic should have won by 30 if they were really, "getting it done".

"Let's be real people. I would enjoy some facts, and not just ignorant and emotional posts."

Same here, and you are obviously an emotional pessimist. What's it like going through life with a negative attitude? Is it fun?

And nanningbob has more basketball IQ in one of his pubic hairs than you have in your entire body!
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Feb 8, 2009
 
Hmm, you sound like Jim to me.

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